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Leader, etc. issue wait - avoidable?

Postby Kandarin » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:01 pm

Despite the convenient sticky over in Got Issues, this forum (and major region RMBs) is still cluttered with folks coming by to ask "My population is above the level that it said...why can't I set my leader/religion/capitol/etc.?". Although there is a Convenient Sticky, I can see why people would wonder about that - it looks an awful lot like you're supposed to get it at that population beforehand.

So I ask: Since it's possible to have so many other things as an issue trigger (the easter egg that is supposed to be more likely with revival springs to mind) is it possible to make those issues come up automatically upon reaching a threshold population?
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Postby Topid » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:42 am

The only thing I would be concerned about is what happens if a nation has issues turned off or is on vacation mode when his population reaches that point, and issues are turned on later.
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:04 am

It would be forced upon them then I'd say.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:16 am

Topid wrote:The only thing I would be concerned about is what happens if a nation has issues turned off or is on vacation mode when his population reaches that point, and issues are turned on later.

I have added that to the FAQ.
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Postby Topid » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:21 am

Kryozerkia wrote:
Topid wrote:The only thing I would be concerned about is what happens if a nation has issues turned off or is on vacation mode when his population reaches that point, and issues are turned on later.

I have added that to the FAQ.

I was referring to what would happen if we used Kandy's suggestion of making it so as soon as a nation hits X citizens it gets the issue at that update... But okay, more info is good I guess?
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Postby Kryozerkia » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:25 am

Topid wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:
Topid wrote:The only thing I would be concerned about is what happens if a nation has issues turned off or is on vacation mode when his population reaches that point, and issues are turned on later.

I have added that to the FAQ.

I was referring to what would happen if we used Kandy's suggestion of making it so as soon as a nation hits X citizens it gets the issue at that update... But okay, more info is good I guess?

I will admit, I hadn't thought of it, which is why I added it in. :blush:
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:54 pm

Wouldn't it cut down on the number of queries if we took out the "Unlockable" things on the Settings page, and only show the fields once the issue has been answered?
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Postby North Mack » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:54 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Wouldn't it cut down on the number of queries if we took out the "Unlockable" things on the Settings page, and only show the fields once the issue has been answered?


Then you'd get people saying "Why does [X Nation] have a capital city and I don't? How do I get it!???!?!!!?!1!1?!!one!" I think it would be better to simply link where it says "awaiting legislation" to the forum thread so it becomes almost impossible to miss.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:01 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Wouldn't it cut down on the number of queries if we took out the "Unlockable" things on the Settings page, and only show the fields once the issue has been answered?

Wasn't that what we had beforehand? People saw that other nations had leaders/capital cities/religions, and were asking in Gameplay/Technical/Got Issues about it all the time. [violet] changed it to what we have now - it might be better to say explicitly that a nation is eligible for an issue which can unlock that custom field, when they reach a certain population. More text, but less questions.
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Postby Lordieth » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:27 am

Am I the only who sees this as an ever growing complaint? As more issues get added, the chances of getting the unlocked population issues become less and less likely, which doesn't make a lot of sense as unlockable rewards.
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Postby North Mack » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:00 pm

Lordieth wrote:Am I the only who sees this as an ever growing complaint? As more issues get added, the chances of getting the unlocked population issues become less and less likely, which doesn't make a lot of sense as unlockable rewards.


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Postby Lordieth » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:46 pm

Except when compared to Nations who got the issue when there were less issues to contend with. I understand what you're saying though.
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Postby The Most Glorious Hack » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:07 am

Good point.

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Postby Lordieth » Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:27 am

Not quite the point I was making, but ok, fair enough. It might not be such a big deal now, but every extra issue lowers the chances of getting the population issues. I'm not particularly bothered myself, just think this'll be a regular thing people will complain about.
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Postby Naivetry » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:18 am

Heh. Perhaps alternatively a... stronger description? Like "Wait for" legislation rather than "Awaiting".

EDIT: Actually, I don't know how much it would help, but even just changing "legislation" to "Issue" might clear up some of the confusion.
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Postby Topid » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:23 am

Lordieth wrote:Not quite the point I was making, but ok, fair enough. It might not be such a big deal now, but every extra issue lowers the chances of getting the population issues. I'm not particularly bothered myself, just think this'll be a regular thing people will complain about.

Issues are added very very slowly because of all the work that needs to be done for one to be implemented, and because the people doing that work are volunteers. I don't think there will be a major impact on the chances for a couple years lol.
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Postby Sel Appa » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:22 am

I got them pretty quickly after reactivating my nation after they added those options.
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