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Shahira Tribe
Civilian
 
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Founded: Sep 15, 2015
Ex-Nation

Classifications

Postby Shahira Tribe » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:17 pm

I really dont understand this whole classification thing. my nation has gone from iron fist to father knows best to corrupt dictatorship. this is not what i wanted. i have just been resolving issues based on how imagined my nation to be but what its ending up to be is the exact opposite of how i expected. Like, many of my banners makes no sense of how i got them, mainly the ones dealing with politcal freedom such as clamp down on opposition and listening in on citizens, and others like the white wale banner and cutural based tourism industry. I have not gotten any issures related to the banners.

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Omigodtheykilledkenny
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5744
Founded: Mar 14, 2005
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:34 pm

How your nation is categorized depends on how you respect freedoms in answering Daily Issues. Clamping down on economic freedoms the way you did when you hiked taxes on the rich is what caused your nation to slip from a Father Knows Best State to a Corrupt Dictatorship. (Prior to that, your increase of personal freedom by legalizing gay marriage is probably what changed you over from Iron Fist Consumerism to FKBS.) It's likely your responses to other issues had unexpected outcomes. Since your Political Freedoms are already so low, I wouldn't doubt it.

Refer to the table to see how you can get yourself into categories you might like better. Just increasing political freedoms a little can make you a Democratic Socialist State, instead of a CD:

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Trotterdam
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:35 pm

Your classification is based on your three core freedoms (civil, economic, and political).

All three classifications that you claim to have been have low political freedoms, so that didn't change significantly. Iron Fist Consumerists has low civil freedom and medium economic freedom, Father Knows Best State has medium of both, and has Corrupt Dictatorhip has medium civil freedom and low economic freedom. So what happened is that you first had a gain in civil freedom (Iron Fist Consumerists -> Father Knows Best State), and then a loss in economic freedom (Father Knows Best State -> Corrupt Dictatorship).

In fact, here's your complete history, minus some custom field renamings:
8 hours ago: Shahira Tribe was reclassified from "Father Knows Best State" to "Corrupt Dictatorship".
8 hours ago: Following new legislation in Shahira Tribe, high-income earners pay a 100% tax rate.
20 hours ago: Following new legislation in Shahira Tribe, military spending is on the increase.
20 hours ago: Following new legislation in Shahira Tribe, the government's religious works are headed by a New Age guru.
1 day 20 hours ago: Shahira Tribe was reclassified from "Iron Fist Consumerists" to "Father Knows Best State".
1 day 20 hours ago: Following new legislation in Shahira Tribe, organ donation rates are among the lowest in the region.
1 day 20 hours ago: Following new legislation in Shahira Tribe, a large-scale revitalization of the education system is underway.
1 day 20 hours ago: Following new legislation in Shahira Tribe, same-sex marriages are increasingly common.
2 days 1 hour ago: Shahira Tribe was founded in The North Pacific.
It's pretty clear that refraining from compolsory organ donation and permitting same-sex marriage are good for your civil rights, so that explains that change. Similarly, it shouldn't be surprising that punishing rich people with higher taxes lowers your economic rights, so that explains that, too.

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Phydios
Minister
 
Posts: 2574
Founded: Dec 06, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Phydios » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:16 pm

Furthermore, NationStates was not created to be as realistic as possible. It was created as a satire, an exaggeration of reality. Therefore, effects will be similarly exaggerated. That doesn't mean the game's entirely illogical, but there will be unexpected effects. However, as shown above, the effects you've seen so far are completely reasonable for the actions you've taken.
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’
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Outer Sparta
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15120
Founded: Dec 26, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:20 pm

Your civil rights and economic freedoms (not strength) determine whether your nation is liberal, conservative, or centrist. High civil rights and low economics suggest left-wing, and vice versa for right-wing. Centrist governments have equal civil rights and economy. Left-leaning states have civil rights that are one above economy, and vice versa for right-leaning. Political freedoms don't matter.
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Bears Armed
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21479
Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:44 am

Also, if you join the WA then the passage of GA resolutions will affect your nation's stats in various ways depending on those resolutions' categories and strengths/areas-of-effect.
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Solomons Land
Diplomat
 
Posts: 975
Founded: May 16, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Solomons Land » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:42 pm

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Luna Amore
Issues Editor
 
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Founded: Antiquity
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:28 pm

Please don't bump long dead threads with tag spam.


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