Should Prisoners Be Given the Right to Vote?

[Pot4toes]

So, I guess the concept is very simple: should prisoners be able to vote in elections? If you are commenting, please, and I mean PLEASE state why you think so. If you have any questions or comments, send a TG!

[Threlizdun]

You do realize that is what this entire forum is for, right?

[Babylatia]

I think in order to answer this question we need more information.
Do you mean felons? Of which I think no.
Do you mean those arrested for less-major crimes? Then I am not sure.
Or those who are being held for misdemeanors? In which yes.

[Pot4toes]

You do realize that is what this entire forum is for, right?

I do not know how I should respond to that.

I think in order to answer this question we need more information.

I think in order to answer this question we need more information.
Do you mean felons? Of which I think no.
Do you mean those arrested for less-major crimes? Then I am not sure.
Or those who are being held for misdemeanors? In which yes.

I just mean in overall. Good question.

[Cannot think of a name]

So, I guess the concept is very simple: this is a place for debating about several different topics at ranging degrees of importance,

How about a whole subforum...maybe we can call it General...

[Yedmnrutika Gavr]

You do realize that is what this entire forum is for, right?

kind of agree with this one

[The Serbian Empire]

Once the felon has served their time? Let them vote. But no voting behind bars.

[New Werpland]

Iye:
Reasons:
Nay: this one
Reasons: they don't deserve it

[Ifreann]

I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Games go in F7, all of general is debate.

[The Two Jerseys]

I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.

There are no winners or losers in NSG debates, only survivors.

[Ifreann]

I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.

There are no winners or losers in NSG debates, only survivors.

Who, studies show, envy the dead 68% of the time.

[Wolfmanne2]

I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.

Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.

inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.

EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.

[Luna Amore]

1. The whole forum of General is for debates so having a dedicated thread for debates is unnecessary.
2. The topic starter is expected to give their opinion and something to discuss. Your OP needs a bit more or this will be locked.

[The Two Jerseys]

There are no winners or losers in NSG debates, only survivors.

Who, studies show, envy the dead 68% of the time.

Except between June 1st and September 1st, when they envy the dead 329% of the time.

[Diopolis]

I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.

Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.

inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.

*snarky comment including the word edge*

[Bering]

Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.

inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.

*snarky comment including the word edge*

*snarky comment affirming previous snarky comment*

[Ifreann]

Who, studies show, envy the dead 68% of the time.

Except between June 1st and September 1st, when they envy the dead 329% of the time.

And in election seasons there are no survivors.

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Since we have a topic, though perhaps only temporarily since the OP doesn't seem to grok NSG, I'll say that I'm very much in support of prisoners retaining their right to vote.

[The Serbian Empire]

I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.

Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.

inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.

EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.

The ECHR is right on labor... but don't let them vote behind bars. They'll just vote for who offers most leniency to criminals. That I know will happen. Anyways, where's my Maserati that goes 185?

[Ifreann]

Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.

inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.

EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.

The ECHR is right on labor... but don't let them vote behind bars. They'll just vote for who offers most leniency to criminals. That I know will happen. Anyways, where's my Maserati that goes 185?

Interesting notion, that people shouldn't be allowed to vote if it is believed that they might vote for something you have a problem with.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.

inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.

EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.

The ECHR is right on labor... but don't let them vote behind bars. They'll just vote for who offers most leniency to criminals. That I know will happen. Anyways, where's my Maserati that goes 185?

Well because maybe in the U.S we kind of have too many non-violent "criminals" behind bars in the first place?

[Dooom35796821595]

They should get to vote if they are serving a short time for a non violent offence, the time could be from six months to four years, as they should only vote if they're released during the governments reign.

[Ifreann]

They should get to vote if they are serving a short time for a non violent offence, the time could be from six months to four years, as they should only vote if they're released during the governments reign.

I'm guessing the idea behind this is that they shouldn't get to vote if they'll be in prison for the entire life of that government, yes?

[Dooom35796821595]

They should get to vote if they are serving a short time for a non violent offence, the time could be from six months to four years, as they should only vote if they're released during the governments reign.

I'm guessing the idea behind this is that they shouldn't get to vote if they'll be in prison for the entire life of that government, yes?

Pretty much.

[Ifreann]

I'm guessing the idea behind this is that they shouldn't get to vote if they'll be in prison for the entire life of that government, yes?

Pretty much.

See, that doesn't make sense to me. Prisons are just buildings people live in that they can't leave. They're not the Phantom Zone. The people in there are still part of society. They're still subject to the government's authority. They have as much an interest in the government's policies as anyone else, possibly even more. Why shouldn't they therefore be allowed to vote?