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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:24 am

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Fair enough, you're almost certainly more familiar with them.

KMFDM and Laibach definitely fall on the rock side of that split. Ministry are definitely an industrial metal act. Rammstein to my ears falls somewhere between Laibach and Ministry so I wouldn't dispute someone calling them industrial rock or industrial metal. :)

Industrial music *nods*


We can has appreciation for Skinny Puppy and Front Line Assembly nao? :bow:

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What sort of half-assed vegans would actively condone the meat industry? I don't agree with them (since I'm not a vegan) but they're at least consistent.




Sauce? I'm quite certain you're incorrect and including accidents that occurred due to other concert activities. If you have a source that describes a death caused specifically by moshing I'd love to see it and will concede.




The Big Day Out death was due to a crowd surge, the Smashing Pumpkins one was due to crowd surfing; not slam-dancing. Just because media doesn't know the difference between those things and moshing doesn't mean suddenly moshing is at fault. There's no sense trying to discuss moshing with someone who conflates several other activities with it and then insists that concerns related to those activities are caused by moshing.

Nine Inch Nails aren't metal, not even kind of. I named the 'most metal' album by Marilyn Manson, but I own several albums by them. I still like them, I loved them when I was a child. My fondness for them doesn't make them metal. Their lack of sounding like metal defines them as not-metal. You can keep insisting all sorts of rock bands are metal, but at the end of the day it will just lead to you be mocked even more than you already are.

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Postby Kiaculta » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:28 am

Just surrender to the Karness. Limp Bizkit is the most metal thing in the world anyway.

Cadonica wrote:Another prime example is extreme metal. I mean, we have thrash, black and death metal etc, saying "whoa this is extreme metal" just makes one look like an idiot who doesn't know any genres at all :p


What about bands that cross a wide range of "extreme" subgenres? Like Celtic Frost or Triptykon?
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:34 am

Kiaculta wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Another prime example is extreme metal. I mean, we have thrash, black and death metal etc, saying "whoa this is extreme metal" just makes one look like an idiot who doesn't know any genres at all :p


What about bands that cross a wide range of "extreme" subgenres? Like Celtic Frost or Triptykon?

Every rule has an exception. It just grinds my gears to see people going like "Yeah, I love Cannibal Corpse, extreme metal rules!!!"

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Industrial music *nods*


We can has appreciation for Skinny Puppy and Front Line Assembly nao? :bow:

No.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:44 am

i like Extreme Metal as its own style. it just needs a definitive sound
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:45 am

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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:45 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:i like Extreme Metal as its own style. it just needs a definitive sound

So far it fails to have one. Except for Triptykon :p
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:50 am

Kiaculta wrote:Just surrender to the Karness. Limp Bizkit is the most metal thing in the world anyway.

Cadonica wrote:Another prime example is extreme metal. I mean, we have thrash, black and death metal etc, saying "whoa this is extreme metal" just makes one look like an idiot who doesn't know any genres at all :p


What about bands that cross a wide range of "extreme" subgenres? Like Celtic Frost or Triptykon?


Celtic Frost is their own genre.

Which means eventually we should anticipate Celtic Frost-core.
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Postby Kiaculta » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:55 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:Just surrender to the Karness. Limp Bizkit is the most metal thing in the world anyway.



What about bands that cross a wide range of "extreme" subgenres? Like Celtic Frost or Triptykon?


Celtic Frost is their own genre.

Which means eventually we should anticipate Celtic Frost-core.


Frostcore: Hardcore recorded in very cold studios.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:55 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:Just surrender to the Karness. Limp Bizkit is the most metal thing in the world anyway.



What about bands that cross a wide range of "extreme" subgenres? Like Celtic Frost or Triptykon?


Celtic Frost is their own genre.

Which means eventually we should anticipate Celtic Frost-core.

Nuu ;w;

I've crammed Celtic Frost into following sub-genres:
Morbid Tales, To Mega Therion and Into the Pandemonium into black/thrash.
Cold Lake into heavy metal.
Vanity/Nemesis into thrash metal.
Monotheist into doom metal.

Others might agree or they might not agree but those genres work for me :p
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:00 am

Kiaculta wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Celtic Frost is their own genre.

Which means eventually we should anticipate Celtic Frost-core.


Frostcore: Hardcore recorded in very cold studios.

Darkthrone?
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Postby NeuPolska » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:08 am

Cadonica wrote:I've crammed Celtic Frost into following sub-genres:
Morbid Tales, To Mega Therion and Into the Pandemonium into black/thrash.

Blackened Thrash?

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:10 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Kiaculta wrote:
Frostcore: Hardcore recorded in very cold studios.

Darkthrone?


Not quite, only since their punk influence isn't from hardcore. Now, if they added some mosh parts they might be there.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:13 am

NeuPolska wrote:
Cadonica wrote:I've crammed Celtic Frost into following sub-genres:
Morbid Tales, To Mega Therion and Into the Pandemonium into black/thrash.

Blackened Thrash?

Shoo grammar nazi :p
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:14 am

NeuPolska wrote:
Cadonica wrote:I've crammed Celtic Frost into following sub-genres:
Morbid Tales, To Mega Therion and Into the Pandemonium into black/thrash.

Blackened Thrash?


You know what they say, once you go black metal...
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:17 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Blackened Thrash?


You know what they say, once you go black metal...

You get tired of it, confess your sins to the Lord and become a Christian living in Norwegian countryside tending your crops happily ever after?

Wait...
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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:19 am

Cadonica wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
You know what they say, once you go black metal...

You get tired of it, confess your sins to the Lord and become a Christian living in Norwegian countryside tending your crops happily ever after?

Wait...

That made me chuckle.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:24 am

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Cadonica wrote:You get tired of it, confess your sins to the Lord and become a Christian living in Norwegian countryside tending your crops happily ever after?

Wait...

That made me chuckle.

me too
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:27 am

Cadonica wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
You know what they say, once you go black metal...

You get tired of it, confess your sins to the Lord and become a Christian living in Norwegian countryside tending your crops happily ever after?

Wait...


Lock the thread, Cad wins.
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Postby Shaggai » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:03 pm

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suggestion pls (already have Night Bane, Soulreaper, Maha Kali and Cold Winds of Nowhere)

Just get the entire first two albums. All the songs are the best songs.

But if I must narrow it down, here are particular favorites that you don't have: Black Horizons, The Somberlain, A Land Forlorn, Night's Blood, Where Dead Angels Lie, Thorns of Crimson Death

Shaggai wrote:I want to get into death. Right now, the combination of fast tempo + harsh vocals + harsh instrumentals really turns me off, but I want to appreciate it. I'm already into funeral doom; would it be easier to get into death through death-doom or through melodeath? And what would be good bands to start with, in each case?

Here is something that combines melodeath and death doom

Other good doomy death metal: Paradise Lost, Autopsy, Dead Congregation, Katatonia, October Tide

As for melodeath, I know way too much stuff to list. The early groundbreaking works of the Big Three (In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity) are a great place to start though. If you're looking for more of a modern approach, you can't go wrong with Insomnium or Amon Amarth.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:04 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Cadonica wrote:You get tired of it, confess your sins to the Lord and become a Christian living in Norwegian countryside tending your crops happily ever after?

Wait...


Lock the thread, Cad wins.

:clap:
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:06 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Lock the thread, Cad wins.

:clap:

In that case it seems only logical to start a decent thread about grindcore.
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Postby Cadonica » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:09 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote: :clap:

In that case it seems only logical to start a decent thread about grindcore.

The best core *nods*
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:21 pm

Cadonica wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:In that case it seems only logical to start a decent thread about grindcore.

The best core *nods*

Fartcore is better
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That is me all the way. I even look a little like the guy.
Lars Ulrich: Hello, Dave. Look at your band. Now back to mine. Now back at your band. Now back to mine. Sadly, your band isn't mine, but if they stopped playing pure thrash metal and switched to a tough guy version of Motley Crue, they could sell like they're Metallica! Look down, back up, where are you? You're on the high road, taking it higher like a super collider. That album was great. What's in your hand, back at me. I have it, it's a hard drive with all the private information of the users we banned from Napster. Look again, the hard drive is now Babymetal. Anything is possible when your band reeks of pop. I'm wearing a thong.

Varg Vikernes can fuck off.

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