It was technically never declared either.
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by The Alexanderians » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:11 am
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
by Rejected Regents » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:16 am
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Rio Cana wrote:Some people here have mentioned China coming to NK. rescue. I think it would most likely come from Russia. Yes, Russia wants good economic ties to SK. but in the long run I think they would support NK. which they also have been investing in. You got to remember that NK. was a Soviet creation and I do not think Russia which currently is having problems with the West wants to have another pro-NATO nation on its border.
Already, the train line between Russia and NK. have been improved.
Watch this its short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3yz2jVvAk
This news report from May 2015 has some history and much more about Russia and NK. -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxTiK6ld67Y
Russia? Supporting North Korea?
No. Just... no. Russia would not risk open war for a backwater nation such as North Korea. Putin is not a complete moron. They might have investments and a train line, but investments in a nation work a lot better if they have a sound economic policy. Something North Korea lacks. Putin would not lift a finger to protect the North,
by Rio Cana » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:30 am
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Rio Cana wrote:Some people here have mentioned China coming to NK. rescue. I think it would most likely come from Russia. Yes, Russia wants good economic ties to SK. but in the long run I think they would support NK. which they also have been investing in. You got to remember that NK. was a Soviet creation and I do not think Russia which currently is having problems with the West wants to have another pro-NATO nation on its border.
Already, the train line between Russia and NK. have been improved.
Watch this its short - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3yz2jVvAk
This news report from May 2015 has some history and much more about Russia and NK. -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxTiK6ld67Y
Russia? Supporting North Korea?
No. Just... no. Russia would not risk open war for a backwater nation such as North Korea. Putin is not a complete moron. They might have investments and a train line, but investments in a nation work a lot better if they have a sound economic policy. Something North Korea lacks. Putin would not lift a finger to protect the North,
by Imperializt Russia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:50 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by United Marxist Nations » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:56 am
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.
by Western Pacific Territories » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:12 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:-snip-
by Rejected Regents » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:43 pm
by Imperializt Russia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:55 pm
Rejected Regents wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:Almost no modern war has been won through a total rout of the enemy.
Define modern war. The period you elaborate determines the validity of that statement. Also, check a page or two back, I'm curious your response to my statement made in reply to you about Serbia.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by North Arkana » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:05 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Rejected Regents wrote:
Define modern war. The period you elaborate determines the validity of that statement. Also, check a page or two back, I'm curious your response to my statement made in reply to you about Serbia.
From reading, I appear to be mistaken. But Desert Storm was the best showcase of coalition air tactics and capabilities anyone could ever have. I thought Iraqis had gotten in contact with the Serbs, but a cursory google doesn't seem to corroborate this.
"Modern War" can arguably move as far back as WWII. Nazi Germany was effectively routed, though Japan was not. Korea did not end in victory and nor did Vietnam (though the PAVN effectively routed the ARVN in 1975 when they took Saigon).
Gulf War and the Iraq War were not routs, and these are usually the go-to examples of MURRICA STRONG the internet and the warhawks (not necessarily mutually exclusive) like to trot out. They were absolutely not routs.
by Imperializt Russia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:08 pm
North Arkana wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:From reading, I appear to be mistaken. But Desert Storm was the best showcase of coalition air tactics and capabilities anyone could ever have. I thought Iraqis had gotten in contact with the Serbs, but a cursory google doesn't seem to corroborate this.
"Modern War" can arguably move as far back as WWII. Nazi Germany was effectively routed, though Japan was not. Korea did not end in victory and nor did Vietnam (though the PAVN effectively routed the ARVN in 1975 when they took Saigon).
Gulf War and the Iraq War were not routs, and these are usually the go-to examples of MURRICA STRONG the internet and the warhawks (not necessarily mutually exclusive) like to trot out. They were absolutely not routs.
When I was talking about overrunning positions, I meant on the tactical level, like with battle positions. I never implied there was any kind of rout, just that an overwhelming force to quickly knock out a US or SK unit would be needed to avoid the worst effects of fire support.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by North Arkana » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:12 pm
A rout is a chaotic and disorderly retreat or withdrawal of troops from a battlefield, resulting in the victory of the opposing party, or following defeat, a collapse of discipline, or poor morale.
o·ver·run
verb
ˌōvərˈrən/
1.
spread over or occupy (a place) in large numbers.
"the Mediterranean has been overrun by tourists"
synonyms: invade, storm, occupy, swarm into, surge into, inundate, overwhelm
"guerrillas overran the barracks"
by Imperializt Russia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:17 pm
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Mysterious Stranger 2 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:18 pm
by Geanna » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:22 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:It must be muscle-flexing season again. I doubt much if anything will come of it as the political risks of open conflict are too big for the leaders on both sides.
by Rejected Regents » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:23 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Rejected Regents wrote:
Define modern war. The period you elaborate determines the validity of that statement. Also, check a page or two back, I'm curious your response to my statement made in reply to you about Serbia.
From reading, I appear to be mistaken. But Desert Storm was the best showcase of coalition air tactics and capabilities anyone could ever have. I thought Iraqis had gotten in contact with the Serbs, but a cursory google doesn't seem to corroborate this.
"Modern War" can arguably move as far back as WWII. Nazi Germany was effectively routed, though Japan was not. Korea did not end in victory and nor did Vietnam (though the PAVN effectively routed the ARVN in 1975 when they took Saigon).
Gulf War and the Iraq War were not routs, and these are usually the go-to examples of MURRICA STRONG the internet and the warhawks (not necessarily mutually exclusive) like to trot out. They were absolutely not routs.
by Glorious KASSRD » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:25 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:28 pm
Glorious KASSRD wrote:Too bad. It's a shame nations that haven't been at war for over 60 years can't go a year without some military incident. Luckily full out war is not going to happen for a long time, if ever.
Were there any casualties?
by United States Kingdom » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:29 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:35 pm
United States Kingdom wrote:This is nothing. South Korea have a more advanced military than North Korea.
by Democratic Socialist States of Africa » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:37 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:38 pm
Democratic Socialist States of Africa wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
That's a very simplistic way of looking at the situation.
The truth is the truth. South Korea has a more advanced military, economy than North Korea. North Korea only has numbers but South Korea has much more better equipment, and technology. No other way to look at it since North Korea invading South Korea would be the end of the dictatorship in NK.
by Barboneia » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:39 pm
Democratic Socialist States of Africa wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
That's a very simplistic way of looking at the situation.
The truth is the truth. South Korea has a more advanced military, economy than North Korea. North Korea only has numbers but South Korea has much more better equipment, and technology. No other way to look at it since North Korea invading South Korea would be the end of the dictatorship in NK.
by Democratic Socialist States of Africa » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:40 pm
Barboneia wrote:Democratic Socialist States of Africa wrote:The truth is the truth. South Korea has a more advanced military, economy than North Korea. North Korea only has numbers but South Korea has much more better equipment, and technology. No other way to look at it since North Korea invading South Korea would be the end of the dictatorship in NK.
Think of it on a global scale, though. If it escalates seriously then more countries may get involved.
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:42 pm
by Democratic Socialist States of Africa » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:43 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Democratic Socialist States of Africa wrote:The truth is the truth. South Korea has a more advanced military, economy than North Korea. North Korea only has numbers but South Korea has much more better equipment, and technology. No other way to look at it since North Korea invading South Korea would be the end of the dictatorship in NK.
North Korea has been modernizing a lot for quite a few years now, their military is a lot more advanced than the average person thinks. They also have WMD's which the South lacks.
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