II Wiki: Announcement and Discussion Thread

[Husseinarti]

The future. Probably August.

Planning on posting a lot more roadsigns, are you?

10/10 most useless and iiwiki breaking posts ever

[Maltropia]

Have you guys figured anything out about the decimals on the political parties pages or the settlement infobox?

Examples:

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Progressive_Party_%28Arkiasis%29

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Arkiasis

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Aspatria

Decimals remain extremely broken everywhere. It seems to be the case that, for urban populations, if I use a comma and the figure is under a million, it will divide the number by one thousand and then round it up, which is extremely unhelpful when a town of 41,196 becomes "41.20". Wikipedia processes this just fine, which makes me wonder exactly what's going wrong.

[Kyrusia]

Have you guys figured anything out about the decimals on the political parties pages or the settlement infobox?

Examples:

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Progressive_Party_%28Arkiasis%29

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Arkiasis

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Aspatria

Decimals remain extremely broken everywhere. It seems to be the case that, for urban populations, if I use a comma and the figure is under a million, it will divide the number by one thousand and then round it up, which is extremely unhelpful when a town of 41,196 becomes "41.20". Wikipedia processes this just fine, which makes me wonder exactly what's going wrong.

We're likely missing a module we should have, have one we shouldn't have, or have a feature of a module enabled that shouldn't be. I'm looking into it.

[Minoa]

Alison Weir spammer is back. Looks like a permanent IP ban will be needed.

Thanks for letting us now. Sadly, all we can do is ban the associated IP and undo the changes. We have no tolerance for spam/abuse and have permanently banned the infringing IP each time Alison Weir has spammed. Sadly, they are very persistent and it is not too difficult to use proxies in this day and age.

Please let us know if you notice it again. Thanks.

If you have the IP logs, you can alert their ISP or open a criminal investigation on grounds of malicious communications and misuse of computer laws. You can also use diffs as evidence of such misuse.

[Roski]

Hey, so infobox: settlement is doing some interesting stuff at the minute.

Its automatically construing population sizes to decimal places, and is only doing so to the city itself and the area.

I placed the area at 2,700 km, and it gave me 2.0 km, and the City population is 895k, but since its standard to put the full population (especially when under millions), I don't quite like that its shortening it. It seems to say that the Population of Russo itself is 895.77 people while the metro area is 10+ million, which is rather... interesting. Is there a fix for it?

Thank you in advance!.

[The Akasha Colony]

Hey, so infobox: settlement is doing some interesting stuff at the minute.

Its automatically construing population sizes to decimal places, and is only doing so to the city itself and the area.

I placed the area at 2,700 km, and it gave me 2.0 km, and the City population is 895k, but since its standard to put the full population (especially when under millions), I don't quite like that its shortening it. It seems to say that the Population of Russo itself is 895.77 people while the metro area is 10+ million, which is rather... interesting. Is there a fix for it?

Thank you in advance!.

Don't use the comma. The problem is that the template is set up to treat single commas as a decimal mark. So anything using a single comma (between the range of 1,000 and 999,999) will get treated as a decimal system instead (1.000 to 999.999). Using more than one comma (anything 1,000,000+) seems to force it to parse it as an actual comma. You don't need to use them at all since the template will automatically add them, although for some reason it also decides it wants to add decimals anyway (so the population would be listed as 895,000.00).

[Maltropia]

The template shouldn't have issues with using commas, though, if it's imported directly from Wikipedia which uses commas in its {{infobox settlement}} (e.g. here).

[Kyrusia]

We're aware of the issue regarding the decimals in some templates. Our host is currently looking into it personally. Thank you for your patience.

[Roski]

iiwiki just died

[Solm]

iiwiki just died

Looks up and working to me!

[Layarteb]

iiwiki just died

Looks up and working to me!

I can confirm up & running here too

[Roski]

iiwiki just died

Looks up and working to me!

It came back up approximately 1/2 an hour after I posted.

[Layarteb]

Terrorists struck again:

502 Bad Gateway

Glorious - the enemies of IIwiki have been defeated

[Kyrusia]

Terrorists struck again:

502 Bad Gateway

Glorious - the enemies of IIwiki have been defeated

From what I can tell, this seems to happen when there is an exceptionally high request strain, leading the connection between the user end and the DB to just throw-up its hands and give-up for a while. This seems to happen when extensive templates are imported/deleted/changed or when there is a lot of image uploads (or a fairly large single image uploaded) in sequence. More often than not, it will resolve itself in 5-10 minutes (longest I've seen is around 15 and not be the sign of a major hiccup).

[Sabara]

Getting a 502 error whilst editing.

[Maltropia]

It was the Esquarian road signs again earlier. Not even joking.

[Tiami]

It was the Esquarian road signs again earlier. Not even joking.

Can administration not do something about it, Maltropia?

[Virana]

It was the Esquarian road signs again earlier. Not even joking.

Do you know of somebody who opened an earlier revision of it?

Since that article is causing significant issues and disrupting other users, I'm going to go ahead and delete it once the wiki is back up. This may cause a subsequent temporary 502 error again, but at least we'll be rid of it. If Esquarium wants a similar article, our best recommendation is to create individual articles by nation and link them on a single index page.

[Luziyca]

It was the Esquarian road signs again earlier. Not even joking.

I was linking to the current page when I was organizing a list of pages that should be deleted.

[Maltropia]

It was the Esquarian road signs again earlier. Not even joking.

Do you know of somebody who opened an earlier revision of it?

Since that article is causing significant issues and disrupting other users, I'm going to go ahead and delete it once the wiki is back up. This may cause a subsequent temporary 502 error again, but at least we'll be rid of it. If Esquarium wants a similar article, our best recommendation is to create individual articles by nation and link them on a single index page.

Well, that's what this list was for anyway.

[Kyrusia]

Do you know of somebody who opened an earlier revision of it?

Since that article is causing significant issues and disrupting other users, I'm going to go ahead and delete it once the wiki is back up. This may cause a subsequent temporary 502 error again, but at least we'll be rid of it. If Esquarium wants a similar article, our best recommendation is to create individual articles by nation and link them on a single index page.

Well, that's what this list was for anyway.

To be honest, while the ARDR page was a good idea in theory, I will openly admit (as its creator) that as a matter of practicality its simply not watched as well as it could be. It's why we've been suggesting people to contact administrators directly for those sorts of requests. When the server gets reset, I'll put it on my list to do a total re-write of the deletion/review process to streamline it, because the ARDR at this point is simply not feasible.

[Zhouran]

I was about to log in to my user when it said that I cannot log in because my cookies are disabled. But in reality, Google Chrome has cookies enabled.

I'm not sure if it's just me or it's a problem within IIWiki.

[Husseinarti]

I was about to log in to my user when it said that I cannot log in because my cookies are disabled. But in reality, Google Chrome has cookies enabled.

I'm not sure if it's just me or it's a problem within IIWiki.

Its because Esquarian road signs.

[Victoriala]

The wiki seems turning up and down continuously.

[Solm]

Just a note to let you all know that I am actively looking into this atm, I'll post again with a more in-depth update once I figure it all out.

UPDATE: Wiki back online, more forthcoming soon once I get a look at the logs.