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The New Lazarene Order

Postby A mean old man » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:23 am

I'm back. o7

Time has passed. Things have changed. The original, eldest Sinker region of Lazarus is now a member region of the New Pacific Order.

For many outside of the region this has come as a shock: allegedly a destabilizing catastrophe that violates the will of the Lazarus "natives" and backpedals on the ideals that NPO members have claimed to uphold for the past several years. It supposedly serves as an "I told you so" for individuals such as Onder, whose spheres of influence have struggled for illegitimate supremacy in the GCRs while maintaining a base of operations in foreign, user-created regions. It is supposedly an end to all credibility the NPO had by maintaining a milquetoast stance on directly influencing GCR governments apart from that of its original home region, The Pacific.

But is it, though? Ignore the drama for a calm, clear-headed moment. Look beyond the heavily politically-motivated claims of the New Pacific Order's petty competitors and ask yourself: what does the NPO truly stand for? Who constitutes the NPO, really? Is this such an inconsistent divergence from its modern theme or is it, in fact, the paradigm of what these people and the ideal they uphold are working towards?

If you think for yourself and avoid the bias of organizations that view the NPO as a threat to their capacity to control other regions from afar you would realize that no, this is not at all hypocrisy. This is not backpedaling on the NPO's ideal of sovereignty and productivity within the GCRs. This is a step forward and a step towards a new age of GCR power and prosperity. Let me show you how.

The Persona of the Modern NPO; A Reintroduction

I abandoned my position as an NPO Senator for the sake of my dedication to The East Pacific, but let's face it: I'm NPO through and through. I always was, I still am, and I always will be. Everything I ever did in my career and in The East Pacific, even, was in the spirit of The New Pacific Order. I was NPO before I knew it even existed. And I may be able to leave the Senate but I cannot dissolve the friendships that emerged during my time therein between myself and like-minded individuals. I cannot deny the outlook of NS politics that was reinforced within my persona during that time.

You might ask: how is this possible? How could I be NPO before I knew what it was? You might accuse me of feigning loyalty to TEP or pulling a stunt by leaving the Senate in The Pacific yet remaining "loyal to the NPO;" fear not, for your cynical gut reaction misguides you. The modern NPO is less of a centralized government than it is a mindset: a fundamental, guiding view on the realities of Nationstates politics that regional allegiance cannot ignore. It is an understanding of the basis of loyalty, the fundaments of justice, and the means by which progress will be made, coupled with the will to push forward in the face of any opposition. It is a condition that brings like-minded individuals together in the pursuit of achieving a better state of being: of achieving order.

Some would accuse the current and former NPO higher-ups of being demagogues and oligarchs. This is not entirely untrue. Charisma certainly plays a role in our ability to inspire others to join with what we stand for, and those who have come on board with the NPO and/or its members and proponents certainly do become part of a sort of ruling class, or "oligarchy;" what makes the NPO (and those of the mindset it attracts) unique lies in the "exceptions" clause here. Charisma can only take a leader so far in his endeavors; a truly selfish and unproductive yet charismatic leader is ultimately exposed for his faults and his greatest strength suddenly becomes his most vulnerable point of attack. He is labeled a sycophant; a pandering, self-interested weasel: for this is what he is, and he deserves his defeat. A true oligarchy born of similar self-interest (take the Empire in TEP, for example) becomes stale in its exclusivity and is destroyed as those excluded grow bolder and stronger, for they are right to oppose such close-minded exploitation of public resources.

The New Pacific Order is no such thing as the stereotypical oligarchy, comprised of the stereotypical demagogues. No, an evolved outlook has emerged here: one that recognizes the merit of dictatorship while simultaneously recognizing the merit of democracy. One that observes "raiding" and "defending" as non-polarized and views them within the context of interregional politics rather than ideological dogma. One that combines the ideals behind extremes to generate something original that defies definition. One driven by ambition while acknowledging the evils of exclusivity and a need for legitimate, "native" rule. It is, historically and consistently, a truly objective, truly contemplative, and in many regards "neutral" understanding of things that others like to paint as being falsely set in stone.

It was through this outlook that I personally supported the open and inclusive growth of TEP during a period of time when its government was comprised of a paltry four approximate active members: a period of time where it was ripe for conversion into an inaccessible dictatorship controlled by a select few individuals who could have been slowly shoehorned into influence within the government and within the region itself. Doing that to The East Pacific, a region with so much potential to thrive as a democracy, however, would have been terribly wrong. I saw the region's potential to thrive as a democratic state that was ruled honestly, locally, and legitimately and I searched within and without to find the right people to make this happen. I saw to it that a local (or EPSA-involved) WA nation was a must for governmental participation and helped nurture an environment that secured the dedication of the three new delegates who succeeded me and of many of the other individuals who were and are indispensible in the success of TEP's government. I supported an ideal, an ideal shared by everyone who made TEP such a stable and cooperative example of GCR democracy, and it is the same ideal that will work in a new context and bring Lazarus out of obscurity and into a new age of prosperity.

The Resurrection of Lazarus

On this note and in an entirely official capacity as granted by Stujenske ( :) ) I would like to extend an olive branch from the New Lazarene Order to the entirety of Nationstates: embrace the path which Lazarus has chosen, during which it will prosper under a new Order with a vision of great internal development, an inclusive native government operating under the ideals of the NPO, and military growth and independence.

The New Lazarene Order, after a period of private deliberation and in a move similar to Milograd's bold establishment of the now-defunct People's Republic, has established itself with Stujenske, long-standing and ever-loyal delegate of Lazarus, at its head as the new Lazarene Emperor. It will remodel the Lazarene legal code (which, under the People's Republic, was taken word for word from The Pacific’s now-defunct “PRP”) after the one currently used by The Pacific and, around this, begin to build a stronger government.

The New Lazarene Order invites all loyal members of Lazarus to its first public assembly, through which it will determine new and appropriate positions for those present and begin discussions on how Lazarus will move forward after this change. In particular, long-term Lazarus residents like Drop Your Pants, Kazmr, and Harmoneia are invited to be present for initiation into the new Lazarene Senate.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:26 am

I knew it!

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Postby Wineclaw » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:26 am

Tyrants.
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Postby A mean old man » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:32 am

Wineclaw wrote:Tyrants.


Now that isn't very nice. :P
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A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
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A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
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Postby Belschaft » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:32 am

Well, it's not like no one saw this coming :roll:
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:34 am

I'm surprised that I'm unsurprised.

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Postby Myroria » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:47 am

I've seen posts with less rambling on tumblr.
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Postby The Agnostic Collective » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:50 am

I like how you say this is "the path that Lazarus chose" when it is the act of a select few :P

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Postby Feux » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:51 am

The Agnostic Collective wrote:I like how you say this is "the path that Lazarus chose" when it is the act of a select few :P

Is that not how all these regions work. :P
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Postby Caraani » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:53 am

This is disgusting. I have seen a man puke and then lick his own puke to puke again, and it was less disgusting then this thing.
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Postby Sad-States » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:55 am

I can't say I am surprised, Stu' is nothing but a tyrant.
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Postby The Agnostic Collective » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:58 am

Sad-States wrote:I can't say I am surprised, Stu' is nothing but a tyrant.


I think you meant "Tool"

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Postby John Carrow » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:58 am

Oh wow, it was NPO behind the coup d'etat all along!

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:59 am

How unsurprising.
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Postby A mean old man » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:00 pm

Caraani wrote:This is disgusting. I have seen a man puke and then lick his own puke to puke again, and it was less disgusting then this thing.


A most colorful account. It was due to men such as these that you clearly witnessed engaging in such activities within Lazarus that this action needed to be taken. You should be grateful for these developments. No longer will this man "puke and lick his own puke to puke again." Not in Lazarus, no sir. Not on Stu's watch.

You're welcome.
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Postby Waldeck-Pyrmont » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:00 pm

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A former Aretist on the Issue


Seems the Francoist pokes through.

Well, seeing as the NPO has officially come by to say "Look at us, we're actually doing things because we can!", I may as well throw my two cents in. A little background though. I was involved with The Ascendancy and used to be a very strict Aretist when it came to NS politics. Now that those ideas have waned a bit, I can now see them poking through little by little, especially Francoism. To reiterate first, let me begin by saying the following.

All of you at the NPO doing this are Landrones.

Now that that's out of the way, let's look at this in a more extended look. You claim that it's about the merits of democracy and dictatorship intertwined in a sweet package, for the consumption of the GCR. If this is true, why is this not practiced by everyone? Most likely, because it's actually an oligarchical organization rather then anything democratic. People claim that the PRL was not democratic, excluding the fact that we had elections. In truth, it comes down to thus: Who recognizes who?

So, it seems at this point, that the PRL has much more support then this NPO coup, abroad and at home. To put this into perspective, 94 Block's involvement has destroyed all credibility of the movement. These realizations lead to regions like British Isles to declare support to the PRL. Nearly all of the Pacifics have declared this government false. How long until they now close things with the NPO now? The NPO has, in all sense of the word, made itself a pariah of this game collectively.

To those looking from abroad, the NPO has basically said it's mine, and I'll have it if I want. This organization has no right to claim over the Lazarene state then any but it's native-supported Government under the PRL. The NPO has lead an opportunist coup at Lazarus, and now seeks to expand it's influence. If you want to remain free from this NPO influence, stand with the People's Republic. Drop the Francosim, go home back to The Pacific, let Lazarenes govern Lazarenes.

The PRL will stand strong against the assaults of these power-thirsty children. That's how the ones who are right succeede :)

-Cameron, former Romefeller and Senator for TA, member of the Government-In-Exile of Lazarus.
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Postby The Agnostic Collective » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:06 pm

Feux wrote:
The Agnostic Collective wrote:I like how you say this is "the path that Lazarus chose" when it is the act of a select few :P

Is that not how all these regions work. :P


At least be truthful in such statements. It should read as "This is the path the NPO has chosen for Lazarus"

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Postby Funkadelia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:06 pm

The NPO can shove their "olive branch" up their collective butt. In one breath you talk about how the NPO has been the man behind the curtain through this whole thing, and in the next talk about how this is the path was chosen by Lazarus. That's a crock of shit and you know it. I wonder how hard you struggled with that wording for it to *still* come out terribly.
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Postby North East Somerset » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:07 pm

The Might of the NPO strikes again. A truly deeply emotive and profound essay by AMOM. *Is wearing extremely dark shades*
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Postby Caraani » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:09 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Caraani wrote:This is disgusting. I have seen a man puke and then lick his own puke to puke again, and it was less disgusting then this thing.


A most colorful account. It was due to men such as these that you clearly witnessed engaging in such activities within Lazarus that this action needed to be taken. You should be grateful for these developments. No longer will this man "puke and lick his own puke to puke again." Not in Lazarus, no sir. Not on Stu's watch.

You're welcome.

Funny. The funnier thing is though, that you actually belive you can keep your hold on Lazarus without transforming it into a graveyard of nations who do not give two bird c**ps about anything related to any region, since most of us that are active either have moved to another region, preparing for future actions against Stu, or remained in Lazarus and are staunch opposers of the current illegitimate government.
Either way, Lazarus is soon to reverse to it's former state. What you've done does not stand to last. The only lasting effect will be, as you and your disgusting group of fascists will find out, on your reputation. And as for your laws and order, you can take it, eat it, puke it, lick it, and puke it again.
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Postby Feux » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:09 pm

Waldeck-Pyrmont wrote:
(Image)

A former Aretist on the Issue


Seems the Francoist pokes through.

Well, seeing as the NPO has officially come by to say "Look at us, we're actually doing things because we can!", I may as well throw my two cents in. A little background though. I was involved with The Ascendancy and used to be a very strict Aretist when it came to NS politics. Now that those ideas have waned a bit, I can now see them poking through little by little, especially Francoism. To reiterate first, let me begin by saying the following.

All of you at the NPO doing this are Landrones.

Now that that's out of the way, let's look at this in a more extended look. You claim that it's about the merits of democracy and dictatorship intertwined in a sweet package, for the consumption of the GCR. If this is true, why is this not practiced by everyone? Most likely, because it's actually an oligarchical organization rather then anything democratic. People claim that the PRL was not democratic, excluding the fact that we had elections. In truth, it comes down to thus: Who recognizes who?

So, it seems at this point, that the PRL has much more support then this NPO coup, abroad and at home. To put this into perspective, 94 Block's involvement has destroyed all credibility of the movement. These realizations lead to regions like British Isles to declare support to the PRL. Nearly all of the Pacifics have declared this government false. How long until they now close things with the NPO now? The NPO has, in all sense of the word, made itself a pariah of this game collectively.

To those looking from abroad, the NPO has basically said it's mine, and I'll have it if I want. This organization has no right to claim over the Lazarene state then any but it's native-supported Government under the PRL. The NPO has lead an opportunist coup at Lazarus, and now seeks to expand it's influence. If you want to remain free from this NPO influence, stand with the People's Republic. Drop the Francosim, go home back to The Pacific, let Lazarenes govern Lazarenes.

The PRL will stand strong against the assaults of these power-thirsty children. That's how the ones who are right succeede :)

-Cameron, former Romefeller and Senator for TA, member of the Government-In-Exile of Lazarus.




Everything you loved was fake, the PRL was fake, and the NPO created all of it.
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Postby John Carrow » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:10 pm

Feux wrote:Everything you loved was fake, the PRL was fake, and the NPO created all of it.

Eloquently worded, Feux, as always.

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Postby Feux » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:11 pm

John Carrow wrote:
Feux wrote:Everything you loved was fake, the PRL was fake, and the NPO created all of it.

Eloquently worded, Feux, as always.

I do try my best.
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Postby Waldeck-Pyrmont » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:11 pm

Feux wrote:-snip-




Everything you loved was fake, the PRL was fake, and the NPO created all of it.[/quote]

Then it failed it's own creation.
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Postby Prostokvashino » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:13 pm

Funkadelia wrote:The NPO can shove their "olive branch" up their collective butt. In one breath you talk about how the NPO has been the man behind the curtain through this whole thing, and in the next talk about how this is the path was chosen by Lazarus. That's a crock of shit and you know it. I wonder how hard you struggled with that wording for it to *still* come out terribly.

Nah, too merciful, the oil in the olives might lube it up for them.

And all this work and the best names you can come up with are "emperor" and "New Lazarene Order. And you couldn't even spring for a new forum, you're literally just linking the Pacific forum from the WFE. Come one, it's like you're not even trying to sell your fabricated story. I'd've hoped as career autocrats you could at least pull that off.

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