British 2015 general election poll

[Alyakia]

and I'd love to see a little more camaraderie amongst English people,

I must say, Britain is probably the second most apathetic country after Germany with no sense of patriotism at all. The only thing that tends to "unite" people on the streets is anything to do with the royalty, and even then I doubt more than half the country celebrate it.

Totally different from Bastille Day in France, Constitution Day in Poland or 4th July in US.

we spent ten long years teaching our kids not to care
and that "there's no such thing as society" anyway
and all the rich folks act surprised
when all sense of community dies
but you just closed your eyes to the other side of all the things that she did
thatcher fucked the kids

it isn't that i set out on economic policies; it's that i set out really to change the approach, and changing the economics is the means of changing that approach. if you change the approach you really are after the heart and soul of the nation. economics are the method; the object is to change the heart and soul. -guess who

[Britanno]

I think most Brits think of the Queen when it comes to patriotism. Says a lot when the population feels more proud about a bunch of snobbish cunts with a couple of ok people than our actual achievements.

[British Home Counties]

That style patriotism is so terribly un-British. There is more to patriotism than waving a flag around and thinking anybody that disrespects it should be shot.

I agree. Normally when you wave a British/English flag you either get branded a racist by CAGE or get laughed at by Labour MPs tweeting images of your funny home.

[The Nihilistic view]

I think it's silly that we in Wales got a day off when some English royalty were getting married but aren't allowed a day off on our own national day.

Lucky Wales is part of the Kingdom of England then.

[Alyakia]

I think most Brits think of the Queen when it comes to patriotism. Says a lot when the population feels more proud about a bunch of snobbish cunts with a couple of ok people than our actual achievements.

our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed and a significant portion of this thread will cheer when it finally does. how can you take pride in that?

[British Home Counties]

I think most Brits think of the Queen when it comes to patriotism. Says a lot when the population feels more proud about a bunch of snobbish cunts with a couple of ok people than our actual achievements.

our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed

America is doing fine atm

[Britanno]

Hopefully Charles will do a shit job and try to meddle with democracy again and the monarchy will die. William and Harry are ok, but using your babies as a PR stunt is just wrong.

[Alyakia]

our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed

America is doing fine atm

ahahaha you're fucking hilarious.

e: but seriously why don't the people that want to fuck up the UK just not go to a country that's already fucked i honestly don't get it

[The Nihilistic view]

our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed

America is doing fine atm

LMAO

[British Home Counties]

America is doing fine atm

e: but seriously why don't the people that want to fuck up the UK just not go to a country that's already fucked i honestly don't get it

could it be something with the relaxed immigration and asylum laws?

i got my passport in 2 weeks

[Alyakia]

e: but seriously why don't the people that want to fuck up the UK just not go to a country that's already fucked i honestly don't get it

could it be something with the relaxed immigration and asylum laws?

i got my passport in 2 weeks

good. it might hard be hard due to the "the countries right-wingers want to move to the most are generally the countries that are less friendly to foreigners and immigrants, and this is not a coincidence" effect but i wish you luck in getting out and never coming back.

[British Home Counties]

could it be something with the relaxed immigration and asylum laws?

i got my passport in 2 weeks

"the countries right-wingers want to move to the most are generally the countries that are less friendly to foreigners and immigrants,

but i just stated that's not the UK

but i wish you luck in getting out and never coming back.

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why would i do that

[Olivaero]

and I'd love to see a little more camaraderie amongst English people,

I must say, Britain is probably the second most apathetic country after Germany with no sense of patriotism at all. The only thing that tends to "unite" people on the streets is anything to do with the royalty, and even then I doubt more than half the country celebrate it.

Totally different from Bastille Day in France, Constitution Day in Poland or 4th July in US.

Thoes national days also have sweeping bold political statements behind them you may notice whether its Liberté, égalité and fraternité, no taxation without representation or just a free united poland, what brave and bold idea would a united kingdom national day celebrate? I'm not saying its impossible that there is one but we need to stop being a country that used to own an empire and become something new with ideals worth celebrating.

[Alyakia]

why would i do that

wait i forget what citizenship do you even have since you implied you don't have british before

because while the US isn't perfect it's probably better for you than the UK (and you going to the US is better for me. it's sort of a win-win thing,)

[Atlanticatia]

our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed

America is doing fine atm

I assume you are talking about the NHS. I actually just picked up a prescription and had to pay $50 after insurance paid its portion. (and this is on a so-called 'good' insurance plan costs my family ~$20k a year).

So it's actually doing pretty bad over here. Just imagine if you have no insurance or shitty insurance!

[Arglorand]

our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed and a significant portion of this thread will cheer when it finally does. how can you take pride in that?

I initially misunderstood this to mean that Britain's greatest achievement is its destruction, which sounded just a wee bit morbid

[British Home Counties]

why would i do that

because while the US isn't perfect it's probably better for you than the UK

not at the moment

(and you going to the US is better for me. it's sort of a win-win thing,)

i am fairly sure the UK is closer to me ideologically than you

[British Home Counties]

America is doing fine atm

I assume you are talking about the NHS. I actually just picked up a prescription and had to pay $50 after insurance paid its portion. (and this is on a so-called 'good' insurance plan costs my family ~$20k a year).

So it's actually doing pretty bad over here. Just imagine if you have no insurance or shitty insurance!

No, I was joking that the existence of the US is UK's greatest achievement / contribution.

Besides, the US is hardly a model for private healthcare. If at all, I'd much rather have Switzerland than America. Corporate welfare prevents firms from ever going bankrupt so there's a safety net in America, so no one cares about the extremely high prices.

Then on the other side, I rarely ever go to a doctor, so that won't affect me.

[Alyakia]

not at the moment

why?

i am fairly sure the UK is closer to me ideologically than you

some parts are. some parts are not. close observers will notice that this is causing a lot of problems.

[The Nihilistic view]

Come on, clearly our greatest achievement was inventing gravity!

[Alyakia]

Come on, clearly our greatest achievement was inventing gravity!

typical british, keeping the people down as usual.

[British Home Counties]

not at the moment

why?

> my parents are here
> tuition fees
> cost of living in the us
> employment laws in the us
> immigration laws in the us
> obama

[Arglorand]

Come on, clearly our greatest achievement was inventing gravity!

You also invented time and evolution, can't forget that.

[Britanno]

America is doing fine atm

This is going in my sig.

[British Home Counties]

America is doing fine atm

This is going in my sig.

that's an honour my sir