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Defender Regions, Organizations, and Affiliates

Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:46 am

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Postby Unibot III » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:52 am

This is a great idea! Thanks for composing this list, Cormac.
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Postby Xoriet » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:54 am

I agree. Lovely job, Cormabrother. :)
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Postby Trick Shot » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:10 am

Helpful thread and dispatch for people looking to defend. Maybe I will make one for raiders out of fairness
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Postby Xoriet » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:15 am

Trick Shot wrote:Helpful thread and dispatch for people looking to defend. Maybe I will make one for raiders out of fairness

Can you name it after Kiki's Delivery Service? :p
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Postby Corvus Corax » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:16 am

Aaaaa-haaah! Some progress at last on the D-side of the Fence. Pretty good activity on the taglands too lately, btw.

Please, Leave now moralistic bullshit aside altogether at Forums, report your successes and we all may have again real R/D gameplay, not only R as it has been few last years mostly.

Raiders like if odds are hard and against them (which is not case now), contrary to common beliefs, as hard circumstances and pressures put us try harder, develop our tactics, and overall influence of active enemy is positive thing. For a while I really feared that new generations of raiders must only hear stories about ancient, now extinct defender updaters, seeing only DYP occasionally out there on the Fields. When you really try with numerically sufficient forces, your raid interception % is not necessarily that low. More Action, Less BS. That is Cora's organisational Concept, adaptable for both sides of R/D.

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Postby Random puppetz 2 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:21 am

Corvus Corax wrote:Aaaaa-haaah! Some progress at last on the D-side of the Fence.

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Postby Ivo Mullur » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:06 pm

Corvus Corax wrote:Please, Leave now moralistic bullshit aside altogether at Forums, report your successes and we all may have again real R/D gameplay, not only R as it has been few last years mostly.

Cora, we don't need to report our successes for them to be successes, unlike TBR's tag runs. ;)

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Postby Corvus Corax » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:16 pm

Ivo. Ah... UDL is UDL no matter what. Of course it is perfectly line with your Organisation's high moral principles not to use every possible means to make things better from your perspective. There are nothing admirable Merrymen's failures and it doesn't surprise me either that the lessons aren't ever learned for real improvements. Usually You can predict near future elections/promotions in the UDL simply by encountering a random dude in few regions you're raiding and - of course - extensively on Forum threads, particularly off-sites.

Simply put, I do not see any real development in The UDL's organisational praxis, nor any kind hints for will to develop it. You should close down whole thing and continue further. Start by burning pile of an essays! Good luck! Good Night! See'yah during Major Update! :p
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Postby Ivo Mullur » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:43 pm

Oh dear, does my sig really say UDL? Ah well, it's just like a little promotional sticker. As I have no say over the UDL's actions, you're going to have to take it up with Rav if you have a problem with their "organisational praxis." ;)

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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:22 pm

An decent idea.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:31 pm

Thanks to everyone for the positive comments!

Corvus Corax wrote:Aaaaa-haaah! Some progress at last on the D-side of the Fence. Pretty good activity on the taglands too lately, btw.

Thanks!

Corvus Corax wrote:Please, Leave now moralistic bullshit aside altogether at Forums, report your successes and we all may have again real R/D gameplay, not only R as it has been few last years mostly.

The moralistic bullshit is part of our charm. :P

But I will also be working on a way to more consistently report defender successes in the near future.

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Postby Getti » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:39 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:But I will also be working on a way to more consistently report defender successes in the near future.

Why not an independent news agency for defenders?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:41 pm

Getti wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:But I will also be working on a way to more consistently report defender successes in the near future.

Why not an independent news agency for defenders?


You mean TRT? I think GP does well enough with only one of those, thank you very much. :p
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:46 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Getti wrote:Why not an independent news agency for defenders?


You mean TRT? I think GP does well enough with only one of those, thank you very much. :p

TRT actually isn't "for defenders," it covers a lot of different areas of NationStates.

Getti's actually right, that is what I have in the works. It will be straight up news about defender operations and maybe some interviews though, no op-ed commentary.

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:48 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
You mean TRT? I think GP does well enough with only one of those, thank you very much. :p

TRT actually isn't "for defenders," it covers a lot of different areas of NationStates.

Getti's actually right, that is what I have in the works. It will be straight up news about defender operations and maybe some interviews though, no op-ed commentary.


I was eluding more to the popular opinion that TRT is heavily influenced and directed towards a Defenderist Agenda.
I think a new Defender paper would be a breath of fresh air being surrounded by the bi-weekly Raiding newspapers that regularly spring up, speaking of, we're overdo for one, aren't we?
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Postby Getti » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:00 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:TRT actually isn't "for defenders," it covers a lot of different areas of NationStates.

Getti's actually right, that is what I have in the works. It will be straight up news about defender operations and maybe some interviews though, no op-ed commentary.


I was eluding more to the popular opinion that TRT is heavily influenced and directed towards a Defenderist Agenda.
I think a new Defender paper would be a breath of fresh air being surrounded by the bi-weekly Raiding newspapers that regularly spring up, speaking of, we're overdo for one, aren't we?

I assure you Roar of Raiderdom is here to stay :p . It will be the last and only raiding newspaper, so I hope, and it is acknowledged by most raiders. Although there is much work ahead as our first issue wasn't near perfect.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:00 pm

Did you start by coping The almost identical list you posted here a while back and edit it, or type this all up from scratch? Why not edit that, change the title a bit to something more like a defender directory, and add a post saying you did so? Why was a whole new thread necessary?
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:03 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Did you start by coping The almost identical list you posted here a while back and edit it, or type this all up from scratch? Why not edit that, change the title a bit to something more like a defender directory, and add a post saying you did so? Why was a whole new thread necessary?

That thread is a guide to detagging, and not all of the regions and organizations on this list detag. You will note that there are more on this list than on the other one.

In fact, I'll probably be reducing the other list to reflect only regions/orgs that are actively involved in detagging operations, now that this list exists.
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Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:03 pm

I would also like to point out, that I can be contacted if you want help from the NZDA
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:11 pm

I did note that, hence the bit about editing ;) There've also been a few leadership changes.
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Postby Solorni » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:12 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Getti wrote:Why not an independent news agency for defenders?


You mean TRT? I think GP does well enough with only one of those, thank you very much. :p

Yeah, I wouldn't want more defender news agencies.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:18 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I did note that, hence the bit about editing ;) There've also been a few leadership changes.

I've actually just removed the list of regions/orgs from the detagging guide, since I can now just link back to this one. Thanks for pointing it out!

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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:19 pm

TRT isn't so much a Defender news outlet as it is a Defenderist news outfit. One is an activity, the other is an ideology.
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Postby Invicto Hominum » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:20 pm

Lol! It's about time defenders got some recognition.

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