The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1

[Bezombia]

Because sideloading from a bullpup is literally the most non-ambidextrous idea in the universe.

Would the FG-42 count as a bullpup?

Would the FG-42 count as ambidextrous?

[Bezombia]

For example, look at this picture from Wikipedia of the FAMAS. Notice how if you stuck a magazine where the ejection port was and had forward ejection you'd be perfectly fine. Same goes for the L85

Not if you were firing from the other shoulder.

[Fordorsia]

Your average infantryman isn't likely going to have a saw somewhere nearby. A Sapper will.

These things were mostly issued to pioneers, MG troops and such that needed to do field work but were not expected to actually go and chop down trees. And for such light work I imagine a hand saw (which this effectively is) would prove more effective than something larger.

They wouldn't. Sawbacks are generally seen as useless crap. A cheap but dedicated hand saw would do a better job than an expensive knife with a sawback. A saw has to be thin, a utility knife has to be not thin. Knives and saws do not go together.

[Puzikas]

that and GIs did some kind of executions or something on people with saw back blades supposedly. I don't know if its true or to what extent but its kind of interesting.


That and sawback fun

[Purpelia]

For example, look at this picture from Wikipedia of the FAMAS. Notice how if you stuck a magazine where the ejection port was and had forward ejection you'd be perfectly fine. Same goes for the L85

Not if you were firing from the other shoulder.

So don't. I am sure you can find one guy in your squad of 10 who happens to be properly handed to handle your SAW. And besides with a forward ejection weapon it would be relatively easy to include two magazine wells and just have a simple cutoff.

Also, as far as magazines go I am imagining something like the MP-18 drums.

that and GIs did some kind of executions or something on people with saw back blades supposedly. I don't know if its true or to what extent but its kind of interesting.


That and sawback fun

What's your input on my SAW idea?

[Sevvania]

Would the FG-42 count as a bullpup?

Would the FG-42 count as ambidextrous?

I derp'd and read "ambidextrous" as "ergonomic".

[Purpelia]

Either way, ambidexterity is an issue with all bullpups so unless my setup would be worse than the others we should not really stick to that one thing.

[Fordorsia]

that and GIs did some kind of executions or something on people with saw back blades supposedly. I don't know if its true or to what extent but its kind of interesting.


That and sawback fun

Still cause cleaner cuts than ISIS smooth blades.

[Puzikas]

I think Purp has made an excellent argument for conventional formatted riles as IARs.

that and GIs did some kind of executions or something on people with saw back blades supposedly. I don't know if its true or to what extent but its kind of interesting.


That and sawback fun

Still cause cleaner cuts than ISIS smooth blades.

That joke was so dark It has to smile to bee seen at night.

[Bezombia]

That joke was so dark It has to smile to bee seen at night.

joke so dark it could pick cotton

[Fordorsia]

Open mic night at the IDT.

[Purpelia]

I think Purp has made an excellent argument for conventional formatted riles as IARs.

Problem is I don't have any conventional rifles in 5.5 Purpelian. And yes that is the new designation of that insane 5.45x39mm bullet inside a 7.5x42mm case. Also, I trimmed the case down a bit, same velocity though.

Still, aside from ambidexterity, or rather lack there off what major issue can you people identify with a side loading - forward eject bullpup SAW?

[Spreewerke]

That joke was so dark It has to smile to bee seen at night.

joke so dark it could pick cotton

Although 7.92x57mm IS is a full-sized round, I believe that that was only 3/5ths of a joke.

[Purpelia]

Whilst you guys answer the last one here is a quick Q. Assume I have a firearm and am shooting it. After a while I get a "failure to fire". As in the round is chambered, I press the trigger but all I get is a click. So I cycle the firearm, eject the seemingly pristine bullet and keep going. Is it safe for me to take that bullet and load it into a firearm again?

[Bezombia]

joke so dark it could pick cotton

Although 7.92x57mm IS is a full-sized round, I believe that that was only 3/5ths of a joke.

This back and forth is just too much. I think we should come to a

*puffs cigar*

compromise.

YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Spreewerke]

Whilst you guys answer the last one here is a quick Q. Assume I have a firearm and am shooting it. After a while I get a "failure to fire". As in the round is chambered, I press the trigger but all I get is a click. So I cycle the firearm, eject the seemingly pristine bullet and keep going. Is it safe for me to take that bullet and load it into a firearm again?

I have done this with my surplus 7.92x57mm IS before since it is finnicky. It is best to wait a white to ensure it is not a hangfire, however. Last thing you want happening while you're picking up a dud cartridge is for it to ignite. What I usually do with my Mauser when it does that, though, is just bring the charging handle up and then put it back down (cock-on-open: suck it Brittuns, Swedes) and pull the trigger again. Usually goes off the second time. If it doesn't fire a second time, I consider it a complete dud round.

[Puzikas]

I think Purp has made an excellent argument for conventional formatted riles as IARs.

Problem is I don't have any conventional rifles in 5.5 Purpelian. And yes that is the new designation of that insane 5.45x39mm bullet inside a 7.5x42mm case. Also, I trimmed the case down a bit, same velocity though.

Still, aside from ambidexterity, or rather lack there off what major issue can you people identify with a side loading - forward eject bullpup SAW?

the shift in the center of gravity has me actually laughing at how hilariously unbalanced it would be.

Open mic night at the IDT.

Ill have you know I consider myself hilarious for a Russian.

I have done this with my surplus 7.92x57mm IS before since it is finnicky.

this is the first post you've ,made about this that makes sense in awhile.

I dont like it.

also COO strong.

[Purpelia]

the shift in the center of gravity has me actually laughing at how hilariously unbalanced it would be.

Would that really be so much of a problem for something that's just meant to fire on full auto and suppress the enemy? I figure a SAW is not meant to be used as a rifle to actually aim at stuff. You just sort of Rambo it.

[Puzikas]

yes you aim the LMG. good god man

[Purpelia]

yes you aim the LMG. good god man

You aim the LMG. But I always figured a SAW was sort of a gun that's not really a LMG but something you give to a guy in a squad that already has a LMG but for some unexplainable reason needs another one but can't be bothered to have another full machine gun team. Come to think of it, I am not quite sure what the point of a SAW is anyway. I'd just stick to a full powered cartridge LMG team.

... I just realized that I don't really know why anyone would want one.

[Spreewerke]

yes you aim the LMG. good god man

NO YOU DON'T, RETARD.

LIGHT MACHINEGATS ARE FIRED AND AIMED WITH ONLY TRACERS. THIS IS WHY WE REMOVE IRON SIGHTS AND OPTICS FROM ALL OF OUR MACHINEGUNS: OUNCES ARE POUNDS, AND POUNDS ARE PAIN. JUST LIKE 7.92X57MM IS RECOIL IF ARE MANBITCH.


EDIT TO ADD: THE PURPOSE OF A SAW IS LITERALLY DEFINED AND OUTLINED IN THE TERM ITSELF.

[Fordorsia]

the shift in the center of gravity has me actually laughing at how hilariously unbalanced it would be.

Would that really be so much of a problem for something that's just meant to fire on full auto and suppress the enemy? I figure a SAW is not meant to be used as a rifle to actually aim at stuff. You just sort of Rambo it.

This is what happens when you rambo

[Bezombia]

the shift in the center of gravity has me actually laughing at how hilariously unbalanced it would be.

Would that really be so much of a problem for something that's just meant to fire on full auto and suppress the enemy? I figure a SAW is not meant to be used as a rifle to actually aim at stuff. You just sort of Rambo it.

relevant:

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[Purpelia]

EDIT TO ADD: THE PURPOSE OF A SAW IS LITERALLY DEFINED AND OUTLINED IN THE TERM ITSELF.

Yea but the squad already has automatic weapons. All of them. At least if you ain't 70's british with their not-FAL's. And you have a LMG to suppress and stuff.

[Bezombia]

yes you aim the LMG. good god man

NO YOU DON'T, RETARD.

LIGHT MACHINEGATS ARE FIRED AND AIMED WITH ONLY TRACERS. THIS IS WHY WE REMOVE IRON SIGHTS AND OPTICS FROM ALL OF OUR MACHINEGUNS: OUNCES ARE POUNDS, AND POUNDS ARE PAIN. JUST LIKE 7.92X57MM IS RECOIL IF ARE MANBITCH.


EDIT TO ADD: THE PURPOSE OF A SAW IS LITERALLY DEFINED AND OUTLINED IN THE TERM ITSELF.