by Draakonite » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:18 am
by Allegan County » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:19 am
Draakonite wrote:If I use incorrect terms please correct me.
by New Werpland » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:21 am
by Margno » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:30 am
by Ripoll » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:31 am
by Risottia » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:33 am
Margno wrote:In my anarcho-pacifism, which is different from anarcho-communism and anarcho-capitalism, and with a few assumptions:
You wouldn't pay for your train ticket, you might use a citibike style car rather than the same one every day, cigarette distribution infrastructure would probably be different, you'd probay get them more informally and horizontally from your friends, you'd be less dissatisfied with your politicians because you wouldn't have politicians, you'd still go to restaurants with your friends but you wouldn't pay a bill after, you'd still play video games with your friends, but, and ahis is the most important part, you'd confront your existential angst head on by burning down whatever building you felt needed to go. (Congress maybe?)
by Draakonite » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:34 am
New Werpland wrote:You set out driving to the university only to be stopped by members of the Russian Mafia who ask you to buy a brick for 3 thousand dollars, you refuse to pay, swiftly they take a brick out of a bag and crack your skull with it. You die on the street as you don't have the money to pay for Health Insurance.
by Margno » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:35 am
Risottia wrote:Margno wrote:In my anarcho-pacifism, which is different from anarcho-communism and anarcho-capitalism, and with a few assumptions:
You wouldn't pay for your train ticket, you might use a citibike style car rather than the same one every day, cigarette distribution infrastructure would probably be different, you'd probay get them more informally and horizontally from your friends, you'd be less dissatisfied with your politicians because you wouldn't have politicians, you'd still go to restaurants with your friends but you wouldn't pay a bill after, you'd still play video games with your friends, but, and ahis is the most important part, you'd confront your existential angst head on by burning down whatever building you felt needed to go. (Congress maybe?)
And exactly why should the train engineer and the cook work for free? Because they're slaves I guess?
by MERIZoC » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:37 am
Risottia wrote:Margno wrote:In my anarcho-pacifism, which is different from anarcho-communism and anarcho-capitalism, and with a few assumptions:
You wouldn't pay for your train ticket, you might use a citibike style car rather than the same one every day, cigarette distribution infrastructure would probably be different, you'd probay get them more informally and horizontally from your friends, you'd be less dissatisfied with your politicians because you wouldn't have politicians, you'd still go to restaurants with your friends but you wouldn't pay a bill after, you'd still play video games with your friends, but, and ahis is the most important part, you'd confront your existential angst head on by burning down whatever building you felt needed to go. (Congress maybe?)
And exactly why should the train engineer and the cook work for free? Because they're slaves I guess?
by Draakonite » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:37 am
by Arkolon » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:38 am
by MERIZoC » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:40 am
Arkolon wrote:Margno wrote:Mostly because all their train engineers and cooks and house builders and engineers and auto manufacturers and farmers are also working for free for them.
What if I don't want to work for free, and I free-ride off of society? Will you use force against me to join your society, which I doubt, or will you use force to get me to stop free-riding?
by Margno » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:40 am
by Jamzmania » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:41 am
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
by Jamzmania » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:42 am
Margno wrote:Draakonite wrote:
What is the mechanism that would stop me from taking more stuff than i need?
In anarcho-pacifism, theft. If you take so much that others don't have enough, they're going to take what they need from you (not recognize your claims to ownership) and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
by Arkolon » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:43 am
by New Werpland » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:43 am
Ripoll wrote:You keep your head low in your backwards, poverty stricken, under educated part of town. You have no means real currency, no accountability, no safety net, no opportunity, no real incentive to advance or learn.
Just day to day, week by week, no time to care about the future.
A society without leadership or laws isn't a society at all.
by Teemant » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:45 am
New Werpland wrote:You set out driving to the university only to be stopped by members of the Russian Mafia who ask you to buy a brick for 3 thousand dollars, you refuse to pay, swiftly they take a brick out of a bag and crack your skull with it. You die on the street as you don't have the money to pay for Health Insurance.
by Jamzmania » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:45 am
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
by Margno » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:45 am
Arkolon wrote:Margno wrote:Mostly because all their train engineers and cooks and house builders and engineers and auto manufacturers and farmers are also working for free for them.
What if I don't want to work for free, and I free-ride off of society? Will you use force against me to join your society, which I doubt, or will you use force to get me to stop free-riding?
by Draakonite » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:46 am
Margno wrote:Draakonite wrote:
What is the mechanism that would stop me from taking more stuff than i need?
In anarcho-pacifism, theft. If you take so much that others don't have enough, they're going to take what they need from you (not recognize your claims to ownership) and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
by MERIZoC » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:47 am
Jamzmania wrote:Merizoc wrote:We've just explained that to you. When you do a favor for a friend, and they do one back for you, neither of you requests payment (I would hope).
Are you expected to be friends with everyone? What's to stop someone you don't know riding your train, getting off, and never repaying you with a "favor"?
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