Yes. However, no-one was suggesting that we should ignore the existence of biological differences. You are in agreement with everyone else on that point.
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by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:34 pm
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Albul wrote:What is the underlying biological construct, then?
He apparently thinks that you can't let people be who they want to be, because people with vaginas have to have x traits and people with penises have to possess z traits, or else reproduction can't happen????
Don't see how me wearing pants and working keeps me from getting pregnant.
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by Carpathia and Moldova » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:34 pm
Constantinopolis wrote:Ok, I see. Don't worry about it - I'm just glad we cleared up the misunderstanding.
But it sounds like you really should be getting some rest. I mean it. I have experience with going without sleep, and it leads to all sorts of health problems. I understand there are some personal issues that are keeping you awake, but... I wish I had some advice, but all I can say is, just take care of yourself.
by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:35 pm
Albul wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:I don't think men can watch after a fetus, considering we aren't seahorses???? ONce it's fully baked, sure, but the bun in the oven kinda can't leave.
Blasted idioms... I can't be fun if y'all are being too literal. What I meant by a bun in the oven is that the woman is pregnant... Women can't really expect to keep the fetus alive with the demanding physical labor needed to hunt.
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by The Confederacy of Nationalism » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:35 pm
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by Albul » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:35 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:He apparently thinks that you can't let people be who they want to be, because people with vaginas have to have x traits and people with penises have to possess z traits, or else reproduction can't happen????
Don't see how me wearing pants and working keeps me from getting pregnant.
Well, working keeps you away from bed, and wearing pants is extra work in having to take it out.
We men have needs and we have IMMEDIATE needs damnit! We can't be waiting on you to get back from work and get off your clothes, too much patience is needed
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by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:36 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:He apparently thinks that you can't let people be who they want to be, because people with vaginas have to have x traits and people with penises have to possess z traits, or else reproduction can't happen????
Don't see how me wearing pants and working keeps me from getting pregnant.
Well, working keeps you away from bed, and wearing pants is extra work in having to take it out.
We men have needs and we have IMMEDIATE needs damnit! We can't be waiting on you to get back from work and get off your clothes, too much patience is needed
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it
Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.
by Norstal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:36 pm
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by Carpathia and Moldova » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:37 pm
Albul wrote:Blasted idioms... I can't be fun if y'all are being too literal. What I meant by a bun in the oven is that the woman is pregnant... Women can't really expect to keep the fetus alive with the demanding physical labor needed to hunt.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:37 pm
Albul wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, working keeps you away from bed, and wearing pants is extra work in having to take it out.
We men have needs and we have IMMEDIATE needs damnit! We can't be waiting on you to get back from work and get off your clothes, too much patience is needed
So, why do we have kilts? Unless...
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by The Confederacy of Nationalism » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:38 pm
Tubbsalot wrote:The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Yes. But I also know that there's nothing you can do to remove the underlying differences between males and females.
Yes. However, no-one was suggesting that we should ignore the existence of biological differences. You are in agreement with everyone else on that point.
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by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:38 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:One person having a uterus and one having testes are not gender roles, those are biological sexes.
Yes, and undoubtedly those testes can alter someone's behavior, just looks at how dogs act before and after they've got neutered. Those hormones play a lot on the way people act, undoubtedly.
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it
Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.
by Albul » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:38 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:One person having a uterus and one having testes are not gender roles, those are biological sexes.
Yes, and undoubtedly those testes can alter someone's behavior, just looks at how dogs act before and after they've got neutered. Those hormones play a lot on the way people act, undoubtedly.
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by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:38 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Tubbsalot wrote:Yes. However, no-one was suggesting that we should ignore the existence of biological differences. You are in agreement with everyone else on that point.
Well, I'm fairly certain that someone claimed that it would be possible to remove gender roles entirely, while keeping sexual reproduction.
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it
Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.
by Tubbsalot » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:39 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:One person having a uterus and one having testes are not gender roles, those are biological sexes.
Yes, and undoubtedly those testes can alter someone's behavior, just looks at how dogs act before and after they've got neutered. Those hormones play a lot on the way people act, undoubtedly.
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Tubbsalot wrote:Yes. However, no-one was suggesting that we should ignore the existence of biological differences. You are in agreement with everyone else on that point.
Well, I'm fairly certain that someone claimed that it would be possible to remove gender roles entirely, while keeping sexual reproduction.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:39 pm
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, working keeps you away from bed, and wearing pants is extra work in having to take it out.
We men have needs and we have IMMEDIATE needs damnit! We can't be waiting on you to get back from work and get off your clothes, too much patience is needed
Oh, for you, Chuck, I never wear panties.
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by The Confederacy of Nationalism » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:40 pm
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Yes, and undoubtedly those testes can alter someone's behavior, just looks at how dogs act before and after they've got neutered. Those hormones play a lot on the way people act, undoubtedly.
Are u suggesting that men are incapable of rising above base hormones and are equivalent to dogs
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by Albul » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:40 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Tubbsalot wrote:Yes. However, no-one was suggesting that we should ignore the existence of biological differences. You are in agreement with everyone else on that point.
Well, I'm fairly certain that someone claimed that it would be possible to remove gender roles entirely, while keeping sexual reproduction.
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by Norstal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:41 pm
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Albul wrote:What is the underlying biological construct, then?
He apparently thinks that you can't let people be who they want to be, because people with vaginas have to have x traits and people with penises have to possess z traits, or else reproduction can't happen????
Don't see how me wearing pants and working keeps me from getting pregnant.
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New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
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by Albul » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:42 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Are u suggesting that men are incapable of rising above base hormones and are equivalent to dogs
No, I'm saying that if you cut off a man's balls, obviously the lack of testosterone is going to affect behavior. That's a bit different from equating men from dogs, isn't it? Sure, reason is more powerful than hormones for (most) people, but hormones undoubtedly play a role.
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by Carpathia and Moldova » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:43 pm
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Tubbsalot wrote:Yes. However, no-one was suggesting that we should ignore the existence of biological differences. You are in agreement with everyone else on that point.
Well, I'm fairly certain that someone claimed that it would be possible to remove gender roles entirely, while keeping sexual reproduction.
by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:45 pm
Carpathia and Moldova wrote:Albul wrote:Blasted idioms... I can't be fun if y'all are being too literal. What I meant by a bun in the oven is that the woman is pregnant... Women can't really expect to keep the fetus alive with the demanding physical labor needed to hunt.
Aye, but soon after she's given birth, a woman would be perfectly able to pick up a spear and go hunting, while the man, who happened to get maimed by an angry mammoth, stays at home to care for the children and prepare the meals.
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it
Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.
by The Confederacy of Nationalism » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:45 pm
Albul wrote:The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:No, I'm saying that if you cut off a man's balls, obviously the lack of testosterone is going to affect behavior. That's a bit different from equating men from dogs, isn't it? Sure, reason is more powerful than hormones for (most) people, but hormones undoubtedly play a role.
Again...
Eunuchs can still get horny after being castrated...
Also, you may want to watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAoG8vAyzI
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by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:46 pm
Albul wrote:The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Well, I'm fairly certain that someone claimed that it would be possible to remove gender roles entirely, while keeping sexual reproduction.
A man keeps his penis and a woman keeps his vagina.
A "feminine" man would have no impact on the reproductive processes of a "masculine" woman.
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