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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:08 am

Bataviria wrote:Oh look, it's this endless discussion again.

Islam wins


Even when we decide to settle this by wet tshirt mudwrestling ?
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Postby Bataviria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:09 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Bataviria wrote:Oh look, it's this endless discussion again.

Islam wins


Even when we decide to settle this by wet tshirt mudwrestling ?

That's too much physical contact, I beg settling this by another crusade.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:09 am

Bataviria wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Obviosly imm-correctly correct aswer is Discordianism.


Unfortinatly imm-correctness is not the objective truth


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Bataviria wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Obviosly imm-correctly correct aswer is Discordianism.


Unfortinatly imm-correctness is not the objective truth


Wrong. It's not.
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Postby Bataviria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:12 am

Risottia wrote:
Bataviria wrote:
Unfortinatly imm-correctness is not the objective truth


Wrong. It's not.


My napkin violently disagrees
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Postby Immoren » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:15 am

Bataviria wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Wrong. It's not.


My napkin violently disagrees


You believe in Great Green Arkleseizure?
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Postby Bataviria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:15 am

Immoren wrote:
Bataviria wrote:
My napkin violently disagrees


You believe in Great Green Arkleseizure?


I believe in God, the objective truth.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:18 am

Bataviria wrote:
Immoren wrote:
You believe in Great Green Arkleseizure?


I believe in God, the objective truth.


And you live in constant fear that his any day going to end up universe by wiping his nose with Great White Handkerchief?
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Postby Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:27 am

If christianity wasnt full contridictions then they would have an arguement otherwise Atheism wins

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Postby Bataviria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:31 am

Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:If christianity wasnt full contridictions then they would have an arguement otherwise Atheism wins

Elaborate, give examples, please.
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Postby Putin the Bear King » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:54 am

Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:If christianity wasnt full contridictions then they would have an arguement otherwise Atheism wins


Proof, Bioshock Al-Qaeda?
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Postby Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:30 am

back to basics christianity says we are all equal yet christianity has rankings
christianity is about forgiveness yet are quick to judge before forgiveness
adam and eve were first people who did kain and able sleep with
i could go on but i think this rest my case

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Postby Pragia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:38 am

Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:back to basics christianity says we are all equal yet christianity has rankings
christianity is about forgiveness yet are quick to judge before forgiveness
adam and eve were first people who did kain and able sleep with
i could go on but i think this rest my case

1. Implying the church believes that the pope is above everyone else. Also, source (more curiosity than anything)
2. Uh huh, all X are Y, unsourceable data, mk
3. Creation story is a story, also Abel died and Kain was exiled and never heard of again.
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Postby Celritannia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:54 am

Bataviria wrote:
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:If christianity wasnt full contridictions then they would have an arguement otherwise Atheism wins

Elaborate, give examples, please.


All a created equal, free will, thou shalt not commit murder etc, yet:

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)


I could list so much more.

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Postby Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:24 am

Pragia wrote:
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:back to basics christianity says we are all equal yet christianity has rankings
christianity is about forgiveness yet are quick to judge before forgiveness
adam and eve were first people who did kain and able sleep with
i could go on but i think this rest my case

1. Implying the church believes that the pope is above everyone else. Also, source (more curiosity than anything)
2. Uh huh, all X are Y, unsourceable data, mk
3. Creation story is a story, also Abel died and Kain was exiled and never heard of again.



1.did jesus not say all are equal and it also states in the bible yet you have pastors bishops priests etc no source needed
2. this unsourceable data is stated by christians and if story is the case then you can argue there is an essence of lies for control of masses also Abel and kain died and exiled is irrelivant as they had children before hand who was that with Eve or their sisters? which suggests incest so being a story from the bible youd have thought would not contain such a suggestive story.
3. thou shall not kill, but in the name of god ? bah

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Postby Pragia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:44 am

Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:
Pragia wrote:1. Implying the church believes that the pope is above everyone else. Also, source (more curiosity than anything)
2. Uh huh, all X are Y, unsourceable data, mk
3. Creation story is a story, also Abel died and Kain was exiled and never heard of again.



1.did jesus not say all are equal and it also states in the bible yet you have pastors bishops priests etc no source needed
2. this unsourceable data is stated by christians and if story is the case then you can argue there is an essence of lies for control of masses also Abel and kain died and exiled is irrelivant as they had children before hand who was that with Eve or their sisters? which suggests incest so being a story from the bible youd have thought would not contain such a suggestive story.
3. thou shall not kill, but in the name of god ? bah

1. There is always a source needed. Jesus may say treat everyone equally, but did he say all were equal? You also have not proven that priests bishops etc are supposed to be above others?
2. I cannot recall, but Adam and Eve did have more children. Regardless it is irrelevant as it is a creation story. Also the bible has depicted far worse than incest, and is not really shocking at all.
3. Maybe you shouldn't reference things you don't know? Kain murdered Abel out of jealousy, and was exiled for it.
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Postby Sphermenia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:49 am

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Sphermenia wrote:well Christianity sure had resulted in allot of this
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and this
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People did that, not peaceful religion


It was non-peaceful people with a non-peaceful book

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Postby Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:08 am

Pragia wrote:
Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:

1.did jesus not say all are equal and it also states in the bible yet you have pastors bishops priests etc no source needed
2. this unsourceable data is stated by christians and if story is the case then you can argue there is an essence of lies for control of masses also Abel and kain died and exiled is irrelivant as they had children before hand who was that with Eve or their sisters? which suggests incest so being a story from the bible youd have thought would not contain such a suggestive story.
3. thou shall not kill, but in the name of god ? bah

1. There is always a source needed. Jesus may say treat everyone equally, but did he say all were equal? You also have not proven that priests bishops etc are supposed to be above others?
2. I cannot recall, but Adam and Eve did have more children. Regardless it is irrelevant as it is a creation story. Also the bible has depicted far worse than incest, and is not really shocking at all.
3. Maybe you shouldn't reference things you don't know? Kain murdered Abel out of jealousy, and was exiled for it.

all men are created equal bible
it is blaintantly obvious the ranking puts each above the other and the rest so i dont think source is needed why would there even be a ranking if its not the case this is plain and simple
um i referenced kain and ables incest not what happened to them untill you stated this which had nothing to do with what i stated in the first place or even any attempt of answering this incest question till now ;) so i referenced what i know as incest nothing else maybe you shouldnt add things not mentioned in the first place (also(but Adam and Eve did have more children being irrelevant to my questions)) because if you read that properly my mention of kain and abel was in reply to yours but thanks for the act of killing in that story goes well for thou shall not kill EXODUS 20:13 ;) good contradiction...no it isnt irrelevant as people really believe this also its a story preached by christians as truth and in a sence lies being told........ill admitt i know little but what i do know keeps me from being a christian i could have quoted you 101 contradictions from google but i havent ;) yes i know Also the bible has depicted far worse than incest, and is not really shocking at all errrrrrrrrr
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Postby Pragia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:32 am

Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus wrote:
Pragia wrote:1. There is always a source needed. Jesus may say treat everyone equally, but did he say all were equal? You also have not proven that priests bishops etc are supposed to be above others?
2. I cannot recall, but Adam and Eve did have more children. Regardless it is irrelevant as it is a creation story. Also the bible has depicted far worse than incest, and is not really shocking at all.
3. Maybe you shouldn't reference things you don't know? Kain murdered Abel out of jealousy, and was exiled for it.

all men are created equal bible
it is blaintantly obvious the ranking puts each above the other and the rest so i dont think source is needed why would there even be a ranking if its not the case this is plain and simple
um i referenced kain and ables incest not what happened to them untill you stated this which had nothing to do with what i stated in the first place or even any attempt of answering this incest question till now ;) so i referenced what i know as incest nothing else maybe you shouldnt add things not mentioned in the first place (also(but Adam and Eve did have more children being irrelevant to my questions)) because if you read that properly my mention of kain and abel was in reply to yours but thanks for the act of killing in that story goes well for thou shall not kill EXODUS 20:13 ;) good contradiction...no it isnt irrelevant as people really believe this also its a story preached by christians as truth and in a sence lies being told........ill admitt i know little but what i do know keeps me from being a christian i could have quoted you 101 contradictions from google but i havent ;) yes i know Also the bible has depicted far worse than incest, and is not really shocking at all errrrrrrrrr

1. Care to have a source other than saying "lol bible." Maybe give a link/verse.
2. Please tell me how a rank and title makes someone not equal to one another? In catholic/Christian views, everyone is judged evenly in the eyes of God, pope or pauper, everyone is equal
3. The incest point means what or proves what? Genesis is a creation story, not factual.
4. Thou shalt not kill. Kain killed Abel, and was punished with exile. It enforces the idea of Thou shalt not kill, not contradicts it
5. Please, start quoting all these contradictions you claim to have, I'd need to brush up on my theology. But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot.
6. A little grammar and structure wouldn't kill you would it?
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Postby Skinia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:06 pm

Christians are already quite atheist. After all, atheists believe in just one less god than Christians. ;)
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:16 pm

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You're forgetting the whole crucifixion and who it was done to bit when you extrapolate this nonsense. Especially when you try to (errantly) cite Nietszche.

May I ask how exactly the whole Jesus sacrificial ritual fits into this extrapolation?


Christians are called to be living icons of Christ (as much as is possible). Christ, having sacrificed Himself, shows us the way to avoid the nihilism you insist should be inherent to Christian thought. In insisting this, you forget (or conveniently ignore) the central tenet of Christian ethics.

My point was that it would be easier for a Christian to use nihilistic reasoning than An atheist.
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My point is that you, as usual, articulate a position against a phantom Christianity that exists in your mind.
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Postby Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:01 pm

1. Care to have a source other than saying "lol bible." Maybe give a link/verse.
2. Please tell me how a rank and title makes someone not equal to one another? In catholic/Christian views, everyone is judged evenly in the eyes of God, pope or pauper, everyone is equal
3. The incest point means what or proves what? Genesis is a creation story, not factual.
4. Thou shalt not kill. Kain killed Abel, and was punished with exile. It enforces the idea of Thou shalt not kill, not contradicts it
5. Please, start quoting all these contradictions you claim to have, I'd need to brush up on my theology. But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot.
6. A little grammar and structure wouldn't kill you would it?[/quote]

1. Did you not see the words "I'll admit I know little" it only just up there, Are you not Christian enough to enlighten me?, In what it states and rectify what i have heard, right the wrongs? It may or may not state word for word but this is how i hear it, through other Christians / Born again Christians as they interpret it. Do you really expect detailed references from a non Christian?, would'nt god say that it is your job to rectify my thinking not to judge my knowledge and ability :eyebrow:
2. Please tell me how it does? can you ride the popes cart? will you be able to view holy documents and objects under the vatican at anytime because you are equal :rofl: No, why? because you are seen as a peseant below them as all people they look upon and/or are scared the truths will be reveled ;) Did you see the arch bishop give any campers shelter no "get off my lawn" equal lol
3a.errr "thou shall not" Oh come on :eyebrow: sheeesh 3b. Are you sure you read what i wrote Not factual i know, Hence story :bow: :rofl: Is this really a story that should be told, AND IS ALSO preached as TRUTH by some Christians this may or may not be your views.
4. "And was punished" is after the fact :) so a contradiction. but I am understanding the mass control need for enforcement with the scary exile.
5.Please Enlighten me as to where I state I claim I have these contradictions :unsure: "I could have quoted" is not I have contradictions, do you need glasses? I think google may have the contradictions as mentioned link to follow ;) http://www.answering-christianity.com/1 ... ctions.htm
"But I believe New overrides Old Testament, rendering most contradictions moot" maybe some/most people are stuck in transition eh?
6.Can I say the same? Yes maybe I have the same sort of case to argue for Grammar and Proof Reading or is it a Glasses thing.
Or can I argue maybe you should be educated enough to make sense of any text? I know im not but i can;)

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:25 pm

.... my eyes! Who are you talking to?
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Postby Immoren » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:30 pm

Distruzio wrote:.... my eyes! Who are you talking to?


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Postby Vox populi est autem Vox de Humus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:32 pm

Distruzio wrote:.... my eyes! Who are you talking to?

:hug: noo Pragia questions at the top of that post did not quote properly my bad

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