by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:20 am
by Conserative Morality » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:29 am
by Ifreann » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:30 am
by Conserative Morality » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:31 am
Ifreann wrote:You may as well have people compare the pros and cons of chocolate and cheese.
by Bunkeranlage » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:33 am
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by Ashmoria » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:33 am
by Of the people of Canada » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:34 am
by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:36 am
Conserative Morality wrote:Which strains of atheism vs. which strains of Christianity?
by Crysuko » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:36 am
by Sungai Pusat » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:36 am
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Atheists usually use counter arguments or refutations.
And an argument argument that an Atheist uses are usually scientific ones.
Christian apologetics seem to use many arguments that breaks down to arguing semantics, logical arguments, testimonials, and so on.
But very few scientific arguments.
by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:37 am
Bunkeranlage wrote:This argument's been going on for 2,000 years. Neither side has been able to fully convince the other.
by Ifreann » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:39 am
by Of the people of Canada » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:40 am
Sungai Pusat wrote:Creepoc Infinite wrote:Atheists usually use counter arguments or refutations.
And an argument argument that an Atheist uses are usually scientific ones.
Christian apologetics seem to use many arguments that breaks down to arguing semantics, logical arguments, testimonials, and so on.
But very few scientific arguments.
And the reason for this is very simple:
Logically, most atheists reason that, at the end of the day, it is the religious who have to provide an argument as to why their particular God exists, since atheists are only either claiming that there is none to begin with or rejecting the versions of God brought forth thus far, while the religious of any particular religion are advocating that their particular God is the one true God. (Maybe I am completely wrong on this front, feel free to correct me)
On which side seems more credible, I tend to side on the atheistic front, if only because it doesn't claim to know that something that is regarded as intangible in our realm happens to be of a version that they say is true.
by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:40 am
Sungai Pusat wrote:Creepoc Infinite wrote:Atheists usually use counter arguments or refutations.
And an argument argument that an Atheist uses are usually scientific ones.
Christian apologetics seem to use many arguments that breaks down to arguing semantics, logical arguments, testimonials, and so on.
But very few scientific arguments.
And the reason for this is very simple:
Logically, most atheists reason that, at the end of the day, it is the religious who have to provide an argument as to why their particular God exists, since atheists are only either claiming that there is none to begin with or rejecting the versions of God brought forth thus far, while the religious of any particular religion are advocating that their particular God is the one true God. (Maybe I am completely wrong on this front, feel free to correct me)
On which side seems more credible, I tend to side on the atheistic front, if only because it doesn't claim to know that something that is regarded as intangible in our realm happens to be of a version that they say is true.
by Bunkeranlage » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:41 am
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Bunkeranlage wrote:This argument's been going on for 2,000 years. Neither side has been able to fully convince the other.
For longer than that I'd like to think.
But eventually everything comes to a head.
And modern science is helping atheism gain new ground in the debate, giving us tons of credibility. So I think that change may be coming.
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by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:42 am
by Bunkeranlage » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:42 am
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by Of the people of Canada » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:44 am
by Sungai Pusat » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:44 am
Of the people of Canada wrote:Sungai Pusat wrote:And the reason for this is very simple:
Logically, most atheists reason that, at the end of the day, it is the religious who have to provide an argument as to why their particular God exists, since atheists are only either claiming that there is none to begin with or rejecting the versions of God brought forth thus far, while the religious of any particular religion are advocating that their particular God is the one true God. (Maybe I am completely wrong on this front, feel free to correct me)
On which side seems more credible, I tend to side on the atheistic front, if only because it doesn't claim to know that something that is regarded as intangible in our realm happens to be of a version that they say is true.
you have a good point but, on the god side its saying ""weres your evidence?" these thousands of years old texts they have been carbon dated and what purpose do they have to lie about this?"
by Ifreann » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:45 am
And what about Judaism?
That's quite similar to Christianity is it not?
by Creepoc Infinite » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:46 am
Bunkeranlage wrote:Creepoc Infinite wrote:For longer than that I'd like to think.
But eventually everything comes to a head.
And modern science is helping atheism gain new ground in the debate, giving us tons of credibility. So I think that change may be coming.
I'll just leave this here:
"It was my science that drove me to the conclusion that the world was much more complicated than can be explained by science... it was only through the supernatural that I can understand the the mystery of existence"
- Allan Rex Sandage, astronomer
by Macbeth » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:46 am
Creepoc Infinite wrote:I think it's time for me to do another thread concerning religion.
by Shnercropolis » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:47 am
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