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How should we start the IC?

The platoon has just been formed, people don't know each other.
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The platoon is deployed so there's some burgeoning camaraderie, but mostly among those who are already friends from the home front.
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We've seen combat together: everybody knows everybody.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:44 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:I'll help, seeing as my character is directly influenced by the history of the nation. I could handle the mountain folk.

Also, there are three duchies. Does that make the duchies huge? And how is the nation split up aristocratically? If ya don't know, I can help with that.

In fact, I volunteer to help with the history of the world.

I don't think Ayreo meant that there are only three duchies; I think he meant that those were the only three he's named.

I guess. I would love to see a whole map of the nation with major cities and stuff.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:46 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I don't think Ayreo meant that there are only three duchies; I think he meant that those were the only three he's named.

I guess. I would love to see a whole map of the nation with major cities and stuff.

So would I....

Which reminds me. I want to use the names of major cities in the spelling alphabet. I suppose I could come up with a few myself, but if anyone names a city or duchy when writing something up for worldbuilding, please TG it to me.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:51 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:I guess. I would love to see a whole map of the nation with major cities and stuff.

So would I....

Which reminds me. I want to use the names of major cities in the spelling alphabet. I suppose I could come up with a few myself, but if anyone names a city or duchy when writing something up for worldbuilding, please TG it to me.

Okay. I'll send you a TG about my thingy.
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Postby Toishima » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:51 pm

I'd like to help with the present weaponry. When I see the description for the Model 174 I think of an AK-M14-M63 hybrid, what being heavy, shit at full auto, reliable enough to survive hell and extremely modular. Furniture would be wooden and the folding stock would be thin with loose screws and have a tendency to fall off entirely.

Speaking of which, how are our enemies' weapons in comparison to ours?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:53 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:So would I....

Which reminds me. I want to use the names of major cities in the spelling alphabet. I suppose I could come up with a few myself, but if anyone names a city or duchy when writing something up for worldbuilding, please TG it to me.

Okay. I'll send you a TG about my thingy.

Thanks.
Note, though (and this goes for everyone), that I don't need several paragraphs; just the name and a short description of what it is.
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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:54 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:I guess. I would love to see a whole map of the nation with major cities and stuff.

So would I....

Which reminds me. I want to use the names of major cities in the spelling alphabet. I suppose I could come up with a few myself, but if anyone names a city or duchy when writing something up for worldbuilding, please TG it to me.

What are our guidelines for naming them?

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:56 pm

Palonitr and Howland wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:So would I....

Which reminds me. I want to use the names of major cities in the spelling alphabet. I suppose I could come up with a few myself, but if anyone names a city or duchy when writing something up for worldbuilding, please TG it to me.

What are our guidelines for naming them?

Considering what we're going for with the languages, I would say mostly Italic/Romance-sounding names (i.e. French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian, Occitan, etc.; as well as possibly Hellenic/Greek) and Germanic-sounding (i.e. German, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish, Anglo-Saxon, etc.) names. Slavic-sounding names should be kept to a minimum, because the Slavic-sounding language has been extinct for millennia and exists today only in a small collection of proper nouns (i.e. place names, given names and family names).
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Postby Kriegers » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:57 pm

The only negative thing I have to say about this is that the landmass on this planet is really small, hence there being only 3 countries on the entire planet.

I hope you guys address this (Although I don't want to overwork you guys, seeing as more land/countries would mean more cultures and so on). I just think that only 3 countries in such a small land area has a good chance of getting stale.


Not to complain or anything, just voicing my opinion.
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Postby New Austzeland » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:58 pm

Just a question, how come Fantasy is in the title?

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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:59 pm

So what about the name Felix Feulicid?
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Postby Kriegers » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:00 pm

New Austzeland wrote:Just a question, how come Fantasy is in the title?

Name: Dominik Bosch
Age: 27
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Years of service: 2
Civilian occupation: Locksmith
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Preferred role: Vehicle gunner, Rifleman, AT Gunner
Preferred squad/platoon: Anywhere will do

Appearance: Imagery

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:03 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:So what about the name Felix Feulicid?

"Felix" is of Latin origin, so it would probably be Ezeric-derived (I'm not sure about which specific branch, though), while "Feulicid" sounds like it could potentially be Romance- or Germanic-derived (though either way it would be heavily bastardised compared to its original form), so it would be either Ezeric or Thorn.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:06 pm

Round Two, baby. The Thornorgisil language tree is an ancient one, that dates back to prehistory. Those who originally spoke the language were the first to become sedentary in the hinterland of the westernmost reaches of the mainland. There they founded the Mosaic Culture, which was marked by the immense amount of pottery that employed ornate mosaic designs, which seem not to have any operational purpose other than to mark wealth. The Thornorgisil Culture was also the first to create an alphabet within the region, which originated as a way to help administer the countless tiny kingdoms and cities that had sprung up in the middle of the western part of the continent. This is the first example of the Proto-Thornorgisil language, which was written using a syllabary. This culture, most likely through trade rather than conquest, subsumed the declining Vyorony Culture.

The Vyorony culture was one that we know little about, other than a few place names and surnames that were absorbed into Thornorgisil. What little we know about them is the location they occupied, as there is a rapid expansion of the Mosaic Culture around the years 2200 B.C (Or the equivalent.) to encompass most of the mainland continent west of the central mountains. Prior to this expansion, the Vyorony culture seems to have been at least semi-nomadic; they practiced no form of agriculture (As the earliest trace of sedentary agriculture was found around 2100 B.C), and seem to have domesticated the dog and the sheep, both of which featured prominently in their palettes and their mysterious burial ceremonies. Nevertheless, the Thornorgisil occupied most of the mainland west of the large central mountain range until the arrival of the Ezeric culture from the neighbouring Western Isle. By the time of the arrival, Thornorgisil had been divided into two branches, Old Northern, and Old Western. Old Western Thorn was spoken in the West, where the older Thornorgisil cities in the hinterland of the west (Reguzian) thrived with trading with the coastal Thornorgisil (Odarian). Odarian became extinct with the invasion of the West Coast of the mainland by the Ezeric peoples in the early parts of the 2nd century B.C (Or the equivalent)

Soon enough, the Reguzians made war with the Ezeric peoples (As attested to in both Old Northern Thorn and surviving Reguzian manuscripts), but were slaughtered at the hands of their horse troops. From then on, Old Reguzian disappears from records, and all written Reguzian disappears as well, as the Reguzian Alphabet was synonymous with the Syllabary that was used in the Proto-Thornorgisil form as well. It was clear that Reguzian was still spoken during this time, most likely in rural areas, because during the Interregnum Period Late Reguzian resurfaces using the Ezeric Alphabet, a much different language than its ancient predecessor. Linguists have proposed a "missing link" which they've entitled Middle Reguzian, though this is the subject of much debate, if Middle Reguzian was in fact a language, or simply a false historical grouping of a number of different languages that had no written evidence of existence. However, Late Reguzian disappears from any Ezeric records by the Rebirth Era, signalling the end of the Western Thorn language group.

In the Northern Thorn group, there are two still-surviving distinct languages, one that is descended from the Northern Thorn who migrated into the Central Mountain Range as the Ezeric Invasions caused them to become homeless, and one that is descended from the Thornorgisil that remained subjugated, mainly on the North-Central peninsula just northwest of the central mountain range. The former is known as Highlands Thorn, and the latter is known as Hengistic, but more often simply as Lowlands Thorn. (Because there are a number of different German surnames that are in use here that vary from micro-culture to micro-culture, I've decided to make Lowlands Thorn akin to actual German, and Highlands Thorn akin to what Saxons and Anglo-Saxons would have spoken. It should be important to note that Hengistic, or Lowlands Thorn, features Slavic namesets much more prominently than Highlands Thorn.)

I'll type more on this tomorrow, but honestly, my fingers hurt.
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Postby Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:07 pm

Toishima wrote:I'd like to help with the present weaponry. When I see the description for the Model 174 I think of an AK-M14-M63 hybrid, what being heavy, shit at full auto, reliable enough to survive hell and extremely modular. Furniture would be wooden and the folding stock would be thin with loose screws and have a tendency to fall off entirely.

Speaking of which, how are our enemies' weapons in comparison to ours?

Also how I imagine it. On the topic of weapons, modern mortars are fired when the firing pin hits the bomb as it slides down the barrel, correct?
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Postby Toishima » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:12 pm

Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:Also how I imagine it. On the topic of weapons, modern mortars are fired when the firing pin hits the bomb as it slides down the barrel, correct?

The shell's primer hits the firing pin as it slides down, yes.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:12 pm

Lolloh wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Just a question, but if this person is female, but enlisting as a man, why are you referring to them as a "she"? Kind of pointless for a woman to crossdress to enlist in an army that conscripts regardless of sex or gender, and its kind of weird to keep referring to a person as "she" if they identify as a man.


Well, I simply refer to them as "she" b/c they are, in the end, a girl. 1. She's not IDENTIFYING as a man, in the way transgender people do: She's cross-dressing so that she can enlist. 2. Now, the one thing I was thinking might go wrong was just that: That women are allowed to enlist. 3. Somewhat odd, since you aren't criticizing the age, but...

4. Okay, just cut the section about her dressing up and I'll enlist her as a common foot soldier in your military, provided I'm not too far behind...


1. Fair enough, then.

2. Yeah, the being trans thing was the only way I could think to explain why.

3. Meh, its not that unusual, and its pretty easy to fake your age and shit.

4. Sounds good to me (up to Ayreo, though), and we don't even have an IC up yet, so you're not far behind at all.

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...this.

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I can help with that, I'm rather interested in any religions.

Okay. So, I'm thinking monotheistic or dualistic, something similar perhaps to Manichaeism or Mandaeism with a dualistic element of a single God that has a chaotic, evil side and a good, caring side, since boring old Abrahamic Monotheism is, well, dull. I can also go into myths, a holy book, stuff like that.


I think at this point, we can call this the most in-depth worldbuilding exercise yet created. At least its the most in-depth I've been involved in.

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Nature-Spirits wrote:Great. So I'm assuming it would be safe to say that most RL Germanic and Romance languages (and maybe a couple other language families as well) are present on the continent.
Also, if you have any ideas about a name for the ethnicity of the majority Antediluvian population (or the ethnicity of the nobles, as they may or may not be the same), that'd be great.
Also also, some city names might be useful.
Also also also, what's the predominant religion of Antediluvia, and what are the predominant religions of the neighbouring countries? What are some historical religions?

Sorry for all the pesky questions. I just want the worldbuilding to be as realistic as possible.

Oh, also, what measurement system do they use? Metric? If so, what kind of system did they use before?

If you'd like, you can just get me to make some of this up. However, I do need to know what language family (Germanic, Celtic, Romance, Uralic, etc.) the language of the ancestors of the nobles is from (assuming they're all one ethnicity), and if it's different for the majority population, the same for them. It may not seem like much, but given my vast knowledge of linguistics I can extrapolate a shitload of info from that.

Oh, and what's the central governing body of the country? A monarchy?


For what my thoughts count, metric is good enough, really.

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Nature-Spirits wrote:Do we have anyone here who knows a lot about machinery and/or weaponry? If so, maybe they could help out with the weapons and vehicles.

Also, my questions for Ayreo have been reduced for now to these:
1) What measurement system is used by the Antediluvians? If metric, what kind of system did they use before (if you'd like I can make this system up)?
2) Is there a monarchy with a king and queen?


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Transoxthraxia wrote:The beginnings of something great. (Note that a language with a red box means that it is extinct, a language with a yellow box is in danger of being extinct, and a black box meaning that it still has quite a few speakers.) So, after a bit of deliberation with Nature Spirits, we've decided that the continent will be split into two major language groups (One being Ezeric, and the other having yet to be named. These two would be the equivalent of, say, Indo-European and Dravidian, or the Asiatic Languages.), though to cause less confusion most of the relevant languages in the RP will belong to one group, the Ezeric Group. Now, the Ezeric Group has a long and varied history, but can trace its beginnings back to a group of Horse-herders on the westernmost point of the Western Island. The Proto-Ezeric people led a rather nomadic lifestyle that revolved around horses, including sacrificing them, eating them, being buried with them, and, most importantly, domesticating them. The Ezeric people were the first to successfully domesticate the horse, and many linguists and historians theorize that this was the cause of the rapid Ezeric expansion across most of the Continent.

Around the 3,000 B.C mark (Or whatever this universes' equivalent is), the Ezeric People began to rapidly expand their culture and their language influence to most of the Western Island. This is shown through the increase of pottery and other decorative material culture that is adorned with horses, as well as burial mounds with multiple horse skeletons within them. In about three and a half centuries, most of the Western island had come under the cultural influence of the Ezeric Peoples. Whether this was done via conquest or trade, there is no evidence either way. Soon enough, however, they departed their island for the mainland, through the adaptation of non-Ezeric seafaring. Ezeric language and culture seems to have arrived on the Western Shores of the mainland around (the equivalent of) 1800 B.C, most likely through trade, rather than conquest. By then, the cultural and linguistic influence of the Ezeric speakers exerted enough pressure upon the small coastal trading settlements on the western coast that within two generations, these towns, too, had adopted Ezeric culture, especially the domestication of horses.

This is where we see the beginning of the split of the Ezeric languages. Those that remained on the Western Island would eventually develop the Haggaic Languages, and those on the mainland would develop the Nahumic and Reuelic languages. From here, there is a rapid expansion of Ezeric languages within a time frame of two centuries, when they would expand to almost every corner of the mainland. The prior inhabitants of the mainland continent, who are the ancestors of the Thornorgisil Family, (which will be coming/explained in a bit) were either rapidly displaced or assimilated into the Ezeric Culture. The notable difference between the Thornorgisil and Ezeric cultures was the domestication of the Horse. The Thornorgisil cultures, which had long adopted a sedentary lifestyle, as well as an (undeciphered) alphabet, fielded armies that had never ridden a horse, or faced an adversary who rode horses, putting them at a massive disadvantage. The Thornorgisil languages and culture survived only in remote areas, though somewhat admirably, managed to do so for over three millennia.

Adopting the sedentary lifestyle of their political predecessors, the Ezeric languages quickly split between Nahumic and Reuelic between the 15th and 14th centuries B.C (Or their equivalent.). The boundary between the two languages was the large mountain range near the center of the continent. From then on, Nahumic survived on its own as a rather plain language on the western half of the continent, eventually naturally evolving into Old (or Lower) Nahumic with the fall of the Nahumian Empire (Ironically, the Nahumian Empire wasn't ruled by any ethnic Nahumic, at least, not at the end. They were ruled by a Haggaic Dynasty out of the city of Nahumia, which was burnt to the ground following the fall of their empire.) Old Nahumic remained dominant in the western half of the continent during the interregnum period (Think the Dark Ages/Low Middle Age) due to its heavy use by the political leaders of the time. It eventually evolved into Middle Nahumic, which was slightly influenced by the dying Benaihic Language that was spoken primarily on the Eastern Coast of the West Island, due to the heavy presence of trade between the two cultures. Many loan words, place names, and a few surnames can be attributed to Benaihic. Eventually, during the Rebirth Period (Think renaissance/enlightenment) Middle Nahumic evolved into High Nahumic, which was quickly adopted as a language of the nobility and clergy of not only those on the western part of the mainland, but on the western island as well. The dying Benaihic language (Which was in decline due to the depopulation of the Western Island and the cultural domination by the Nahumic branch due to political and trading advantages) began to be supplanted by a language that combined High Nahumic and Benaihic known as Achavic.

However, as the world entered the modern age, High Nahumic itself was in decline. It was a complex languages with almost no regular grammar and difficult spelling. For those who had not the time nor the money to pay for education, a simpler alternative began to present itself: Bastardized Nahumic. A simplified Creole of High Nahumic, it was quite a bit more grammatically regular, but still somewhat mutually intelligible with High Nahumic. While High Nahumic was kept as a diplomatic and religious language, most adopted Bastardized (otherwise known as Modern) Nahumic as an everyday language. Modern Nahumic is what most people in the Fourth Speak, with most having a remedial knowledge of High Nahumic. Officers and Nobility would be able to speak High Nahumic fluently as well as Modern Nahumic.

In regards to the Reuelic Tree, my hands hurt a shit ton from typing this up, but I'll explain briefly. Caiaphic was the Westernmost dialect of the Reuelic languages, and as the Eastern part of the Continent was mostly dominated by political forces originating from the western part of the east (odd I know.), it became the lingua franca of the entire sector, eventually evolving into Modern Symean. Symean is about as mutually intelligible to Modern Nahumic as Albanian is to Spanish, so keep that in mind. Symean is spoken by the majority of our adversaries, but due to Nahumic being the lingua franca of the world today, most would have at least remedial knowledge of both Modern and High Nahumic. Diomedic is an Eastern dialect of the Reuelic languages, and is in danger of going extinct with native speakers numbering in the low hundreds.


Damn, that's long, complicated, and in-depth. Good job. :clap:

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Also, for the forest mutants and stuff, we should use animals from those eras. Fighting sentient sea fans and flying fucking Laggania.

And holy shit, Trans. Thats finals essay lel material.


You should've seen the lolhuge (sourced) description of planetary systems within a 20 light year radius of Earth that I posted in the Cafe a few weeks back.

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Nature-Spirits wrote:I don't think Ayreo meant that there are only three duchies; I think he meant that those were the only three he's named.

I guess. I would love to see a whole map of the nation with major cities and stuff.


Give me a list of names and where you want them (use the grids on the maps, the distance between each grid is 10 degrees), and I'll work on it.

Kriegers wrote:The only negative thing I have to say about this is that the landmass on this planet is really small, hence there being only 3 countries on the entire planet.

I hope you guys address this (Although I don't want to overwork you guys, seeing as more land/countries would mean more cultures and so on). I just think that only 3 countries in such a small land area has a good chance of getting stale.


Not to complain or anything, just voicing my opinion.


Several things:

1. Yes, I know the landmasses are small. The planet's 88% water.

2. There's actually 4.

3. Reworking the maps would require a rewrite of the language development, and I don't want to make them have to do that.

4. The landmasses are actually still quite large. As I said before, the distance between each gridline is 10 degrees. Which, given that this planet is the same size as Earth, means the distance between each gridline is about 690 miles. And no country is smaller than 1 grid box.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:14 pm

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Pimps Inc wrote:So what about the name Felix Feulicid?

"Felix" is of Latin origin, so it would probably be Ezeric-derived (I'm not sure about which specific branch, though), while "Feulicid" sounds like it could potentially be Romance- or Germanic-derived (though either way it would be heavily bastardised compared to its original form), so it would be either Ezeric or Thorn.

Indeed. What I think Felix, or Latin in general, is represented by is the dead Cyric branch of the Reuelic group. However, Cyric and Diomedic are often grouped as the same language (Differing simply on place names and personal names, as well as geographic location), so while Cyric has been dead for a few centuries, it wouldn't be crazy to think that someone descended from a Diomedic speaker would bear the name Felix. As for the last name, Feulicid sounds like the bastardization of Felixid, or "Of Felix", a dynastic name often reserved for royalty (Notably the Of ______ prefix.). So, again, most likely Felix Feulicid is a descendant of a low-tier aristocratic family within the Diomedic language group. While Diomedic is the easternmost spoken of any Ezeric language, with the relocation of cultures in the modern era it wouldn't be unacceptable for him to be living in a more western country.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:15 pm

What are the current options for the "theme song"?
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No way.

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:17 pm

Grenartia wrote:-snip-


Thanks :) Linguistics is my passion, so the amount of work I put into it appears disproportionately large.
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"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:20 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:"Felix" is of Latin origin, so it would probably be Ezeric-derived (I'm not sure about which specific branch, though), while "Feulicid" sounds like it could potentially be Romance- or Germanic-derived (though either way it would be heavily bastardised compared to its original form), so it would be either Ezeric or Thorn.

Indeed. What I think Felix, or Latin in general, is represented by is the dead Cyric branch of the Reuelic group. However, Cyric and Diomedic are often grouped as the same language (Differing simply on place names and personal names, as well as geographic location), so while Cyric has been dead for a few centuries, it wouldn't be crazy to think that someone descended from a Diomedic speaker would bear the name Felix. As for the last name, Feulicid sounds like the bastardization of Felixid, or "Of Felix", a dynastic name often reserved for royalty (Notably the Of ______ prefix.). So, again, most likely Felix Feulicid is a descendant of a low-tier aristocratic family within the Diomedic language group. While Diomedic is the easternmost spoken of any Ezeric language, with the relocation of cultures in the modern era it wouldn't be unacceptable for him to be living in a more western country.

Hey, do you think you could TG me a list of the languages and their approximate RL counterparts so that I can get a better feel for them?
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:20 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:"Felix" is of Latin origin, so it would probably be Ezeric-derived (I'm not sure about which specific branch, though), while "Feulicid" sounds like it could potentially be Romance- or Germanic-derived (though either way it would be heavily bastardised compared to its original form), so it would be either Ezeric or Thorn.

Indeed. What I think Felix, or Latin in general, is represented by is the dead Cyric branch of the Reuelic group. However, Cyric and Diomedic are often grouped as the same language (Differing simply on place names and personal names, as well as geographic location), so while Cyric has been dead for a few centuries, it wouldn't be crazy to think that someone descended from a Diomedic speaker would bear the name Felix. As for the last name, Feulicid sounds like the bastardization of Felixid, or "Of Felix", a dynastic name often reserved for royalty (Notably the Of ______ prefix.). So, again, most likely Felix Feulicid is a descendant of a low-tier aristocratic family within the Diomedic language group. While Diomedic is the easternmost spoken of any Ezeric language, with the relocation of cultures in the modern era it wouldn't be unacceptable for him to be living in a more western country.


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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:21 pm

Awesome work Trans. I would like to help on some aspects of the Thornorgisil culture, mainly dealing with the Duchy I'm working on.

And Gren, I got something for you as well. I'll shoot a TG to you about it. Same one I shot to Nature. In fact, Trans, want to read my TG on my Duchy?
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:23 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:"Felix" is of Latin origin, so it would probably be Ezeric-derived (I'm not sure about which specific branch, though), while "Feulicid" sounds like it could potentially be Romance- or Germanic-derived (though either way it would be heavily bastardised compared to its original form), so it would be either Ezeric or Thorn.

Indeed. What I think Felix, or Latin in general, is represented by is the dead Cyric branch of the Reuelic group. However, Cyric and Diomedic are often grouped as the same language (Differing simply on place names and personal names, as well as geographic location), so while Cyric has been dead for a few centuries, it wouldn't be crazy to think that someone descended from a Diomedic speaker would bear the name Felix. As for the last name, Feulicid sounds like the bastardization of Felixid, or "Of Felix", a dynastic name often reserved for royalty (Notably the Of ______ prefix.). So, again, most likely Felix Feulicid is a descendant of a low-tier aristocratic family within the Diomedic language group. While Diomedic is the easternmost spoken of any Ezeric language, with the relocation of cultures in the modern era it wouldn't be unacceptable for him to be living in a more western country.

Bastard names for the win.
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United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Waka Flocka Flame 2024

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:24 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:-snip-


Thanks :) Linguistics is my passion, so the amount of work I put into it appears disproportionately large.


Sort of like me and astrophysics/aerospace engineering.

The Carlisle wrote:Awesome work Trans. I would like to help on some aspects of the Thornorgisil culture, mainly dealing with the Duchy I'm working on.

And Gren, I got something for you as well. I'll shoot a TG to you about it. Same one I shot to Nature. In fact, Trans, want to read my TG on my Duchy?


Fine.
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