[PASSED] Repeal "Commend Hobbesistan"

[Funkadelia]

The Security Council,

Understanding that a commendation, an official recognition from the Security Council for virtuous deeds or attributes above and beyond the typical, is arguably the highest honor bestowed on any nation for their achievements;

Regretting that Security Council Resolution #143 was passed despite the achievements of the commended nation in the resolution being inconsequential or false;

Noting that all regions highlighted within resolution SC #143 have been subject to invading forces on multiple occasions since the decree's passing, rendering the ultimate consequence of these regions on the world as collectively negligible, and further withdrawing from the arguments presented in the resolution;

Further noting that the region of Khora collapsed shortly after the assistance of hobbesistan, and is frequently invaded by warfaring organizations;

Understanding that hobbesistan no longer has any relation to Lazarus, and Lazarus now has new forums unrelated to the nation;

Considering that RadioNS and the Lazarene Stock Exchange existed for a short period of time, and are now defunct, and have had no lasting impact on the world whatsoever;

Shocked that hobbesistan was given credit for developing the "approx" script, when the script was actually developed by the nation of Eluvatar at a far earlier time;

Concluding that hobbesistan's contributions to the world are on the whole irrelevant or inconsequential, while good intentioned, and that one clause of the commending resolution is completely false;

Hereby Repeals SC #143, Commend Hobbesistan.

Co-Authored by Feux.

[Aperi]

When you need to change your forum altogether because your root is leaking...no bueno.

[Ikania]

The Security Council,

Understanding that a commendation, an official recognition from the Security Council for virtuous deeds or attributes above and beyond the typical, is arguably the highest honor bestowed on any individual for their achievements;

Regretting that Security Council Resolution #143 was passed despite the achievements of the commended nation in the resolution being inconsequential or false;

Noting that all regions highlighted within resolution SC #143 have been subject to invading forces on multiple occasions since the decree's passing, rendering the ultimate consequence of these regions on the world as collectively negligible, and further withdrawing from the arguments presented in resolution # 143;

Further noting that the region of Khora collapsed shortly after the assistance of hobbesistan, and is frequently invaded by warfaring organizations;

Hobbes is the one that saved Khora from further damage; regardless of the end result, he showed the dedication to make Khora succeed, and it's only because of our exodus to Laz and Tofuline that he gave up.

Understanding that hobbesistan no longer has any relation to Lazarus, and Lazarus now has new forums unrelated to the nation;

Your removal of Hobbes from the forums was controversial; the fact that he paid for it alone is nearly worth a commendation.

Considering that RadioNS and the Lazarene Stock Exchange existed for a short period of time, and are now defunct, and have had no lasting impact on the world whatsoever;

Valid concern.

Shocked that hobbesistan was given credit for developing the "approx" script, when the script was actually developed by the nation of Eluvatar at a far earlier time;

Valid, but he may have improved it. Need clarification on that.

Concluding that hobbesistan's contributions to the world are on the whole irrelevant or inconsequential, while good intentioned, and that one clause of the commending resolution is completely false;

Hereby Repeals SC #143, Commend Hobbesistan.

Co-Authored by Feux.

Overall, you're trying to get his condemnation removed because what he did hasn't lasted till now, but not through his choice but mainly yours, Funk. Hobbes is an outstanding player who showed amazing dedication to Lazarus and other regions he's participated in.

EDIT: He's had a lasting impact, definitely, maybe not on regions as a whole but on the NS community. Effect, though =/= impact.

[Benevolent Thomas]

Fully support this repeal and I imagine Skydip would too were he still here. This commendation was given far before Hobbes' NS career would be defined and his accomplishes had yet to stand the test of time. In my book it was a vote more about his own popularity at the time than anything else.

[Ikania]

Fully support this repeal and I imagine Skydip would too were he still here. This commendation was given far before Hobbes' NS career would be defined and his accomplishes had yet to stand the test of time. In my book it was a vote more about his own popularity at the time than anything else.

Know what, I completely forgot about SkyDip. Where'd he go?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

How in heck is "approx script" R4 compliant? No fault to the repeal author, because the term obviously appeared int he original, but still.

[Funkadelia]

How in heck is "approx script" R4 compliant? No fault to the repeal author, because the term obviously appeared int he original, but still.

Yeah, I was curious about that myself but I just rolled with it when writing the proposal.

Effect, though =/= impact.

Those words are synonyms.

[Ynys Prydain]

Cormac:

Recognizing that Funkadelia can't stand to acknowledge that Hobbes actually positively contributed to Lazarus, paying out of his own pocket for its forums;

Acknowledging that Funkadelia has a grudge against Hobbes and that this repeal is motivated by that grudge;

Noting that most of the repeal's claims are exaggerated or irrelevant, as what has occurred since the commendation doesn't negate that he did in fact do all of the things the commendation noted, including development of a separate approximation script and its release to the public:

Hereby replies "lol k" and opposes this repeal.

[Funkadelia]

Cute.

I don't really have any opinion about Hobbes. I do think that the Commendation is weak and generally waters down the point of a Commendation. What motivated me was basically the idea that Benevolent Thomas projected earlier in the thread. As I said in one of the final clauses, his efforts were good intentioned, but simply not worthy of a commendation. Those are usually reserved for people who have made incredible impacts on the world and have memorable achievements.

Of course, your next post will probably be denying all of the above and restating that every action I do is motivated by personal grudge and revenge.

Not everyone acts the way you do, Cormac.

[Ikania]

Those words are synonyms.

I forgot to provide context.

Hobbes has had an impact on the community- everyone knows him, *most* people like him, and he's done some great things that everyone remembers. Whether they lasted or not, he's definitely left a mark on the community, and the time and dedication he's showed to his work is what makes him deserve a condemnation.

Watching Funk and Cormac fight is like watching two teachers fight. You don't really like either, and you take turns rooting for each.

EDIT: If you look above, you will see that I said Hobbes deserved a condemnation. Please note that that is 104% srs topkek

[McMasterdonia]

The original commendation was quite weak. Especially the clause that mentions a couple of months of contributions to a region. I will be supporting this repeal.

Just my opinion. I expect this will be quite controversial and it will be interesting to see if Abacathea campaigns against the repeal.

[Ynys Prydain]

I'm not sure if Hobbes deserves a commendation or not, and I can't even remember how I voted on it. I remember being conflicted about whether he deserved it yet.

What I do know for certain is that I won't be voting for any repeal authored by Funkadelia. Neither he personally nor Lazarus collectively deserves the credit or satisfaction of repealing Hobbes' commendation.

[Chester Pearson]

Damn it Funk! This puts me in a real tough position. I hate that Hobbes was commended for doing a grand sum of nothing, yet I am allied with Abacathea. I am not 100% sure I can support this at this time, but if Aba isn't going to put up a huge stink, then I will fully support....

[Ikania]

Damn it Funk! This puts me in a real tough position. I hate that Hobbes was commended for doing a grand sum of nothing, yet I am allied with Abacathea. I am not 100% sure I can support this at this time, but if Aba isn't going to put up a huge stink, then I will fully support....

KEEP IT IN PLACE GOD DAMN IT

I'm not sure if Hobbes deserves a commendation or not, and I can't even remember how I voted on it. I remember being conflicted about whether he deserved it yet.

What I do know for certain is that I won't be voting for any repeal authored by Funkadelia. Neither he personally nor Lazarus collectively deserves the credit or satisfaction of repealing Hobbes' commendation.

Honestly, what compels you so to keep up this holier-than-thou attitude? If Halcones put out a good resolution, doesn't mean I'd vote against simply because it's Halcones.

Not, of course, because this is in any way a good resolution. Gosh, it's hard being neutral.

[Funkadelia]

I'm not sure if Hobbes deserves a commendation or not, and I can't even remember how I voted on it. I remember being conflicted about whether he deserved it yet.

What I do know for certain is that I won't be voting for any repeal authored by Funkadelia. Neither he personally nor Lazarus collectively deserves the credit or satisfaction of repealing Hobbes' commendation.

It is such a shame that I lose your valuable vote

Damn it Funk! This puts me in a real tough position. I hate that Hobbes was commended for doing a grand sum of nothing, yet I am allied with Abacathea. I am not 100% sure I can support this at this time, but if Aba isn't going to put up a huge stink, then I will fully support....

That's unfortunate. All I can really say is to vote your conscience.

[Chester Pearson]

Damn it Funk! This puts me in a real tough position. I hate that Hobbes was commended for doing a grand sum of nothing, yet I am allied with Abacathea. I am not 100% sure I can support this at this time, but if Aba isn't going to put up a huge stink, then I will fully support....

KEEP IT IN PLACE GOD DAMN IT

What exactly is your stake in all of this?

Damn it Funk! This puts me in a real tough position. I hate that Hobbes was commended for doing a grand sum of nothing, yet I am allied with Abacathea. I am not 100% sure I can support this at this time, but if Aba isn't going to put up a huge stink, then I will fully support....

That's unfortunate. All I can really say is to vote your conscience.

And potentially toss and ally under the bus? Not my style....

[Funkadelia]

That's unfortunate. All I can really say is to vote your conscience.

And potentially toss and ally under the bus? Not my style....

Sorry if I came across wrong there, I mean to vote your inner feeling. I don't know what the proper term should be.

[Idzequitch]

It's a weak commendation, but a weak one is better than none, and Hobbes deserves his commendation.

Against.

[Funkadelia]

It's a weak commendation, but a weak one is better than none, and Hobbes deserves his commendation.

Against.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean?

If it is a weak commendation, then perhaps he does not deserve it because there is no strong basis available for having a commendation? Or, alternatively, the commendation could be replaced with one of a more solid basis.

[Chester Pearson]

Or, alternatively, the commendation could be replaced with one of a more solid basis.

Or we could not and say we did?

[Funkadelia]

Or, alternatively, the commendation could be replaced with one of a more solid basis.

Or we could not and say we did?

I'm not saying I would support one, but if someone felt like it was justified then they are within their right to propose it.

[Solorni]

I would agree with Cormac in that while the original commendation may have been a little questionable, that a repeal by Funkadelia seems far too personal and isn't objective .

[Funkadelia]

I would agree with Cormac in that while the original commendation may have been a little questionable, that a repeal by Funkadelia seems far too personal and isn't objective .

So if someone literally copy and pasted my draft and did it themselves it would be okay? That doesn't make any sense at all. You all drastically overestimate my relationship with Hobbes.

[Ikania]

KEEP IT IN PLACE GOD DAMN IT

What exactly is your stake in all of this?

It's a joke m10. I'm telling you to vote against it.

[Ikania]

I would agree with Cormac in that while the original commendation may have been a little questionable, that a repeal by Funkadelia seems far too personal and isn't objective .

So if someone literally copy and pasted my draft and did it themselves it would be okay? That doesn't make any sense at all. You all drastically overestimate my relationship with Hobbes.

Not really. One of the biggest reasons for commending him came crashing down because of your regime.