And those personal incomes are all generated from jobs, those jobs are generated by corporations, blah blah blah, all ties back into China, broski.
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by Ausgebombt » Tue May 25, 2010 12:40 am
Maurepas wrote:I'd feel little less Anti-American-Marixist, if I felt America was worth a damn thing anymore.
by Sibirsky » Tue May 25, 2010 12:41 am
Ausgebombt wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Most capitalist large country; USA
Most generous country in terms of charitable contributions which are being borrowed from China; USA
again with complete BS claims, for one, we're talking private donations too, further, very little of US debt is held by china, under 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt
According to that China owns about 23.4% of our debt. And is the foremost owner of our debt at about 877.5 billion.
That is not 'very little', hell, just holding 10% of our debt is very bad. VERY BAD. Having just about 1/4 of our debt is even worse.
Fact of the matter is, in my opinion, Capitalism is fine and all, but are you aware that we are currently sucking the metaphorical funstick of a Communist country?
by Self--Esteem » Tue May 25, 2010 12:41 am
Ausgebombt wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Most capitalist large country; USA
Most generous country in terms of charitable contributions which are being borrowed from China; USA
again with complete BS claims, for one, we're talking private donations too, further, very little of US debt is held by china, under 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt
According to that China owns about 23.4% of our debt. And is the foremost owner of our debt at about 877.5 billion.
That is not 'very little', hell, just holding 10% of our debt is very bad. VERY BAD. Having just about 1/4 of our debt is even worse.
Fact of the matter is, in my opinion, Capitalism is fine and all, but are you aware that we are currently sucking the metaphorical funstick of a Communist country?
by Sibirsky » Tue May 25, 2010 12:43 am
Ausgebombt wrote:
And those personal incomes are all generated from jobs, those jobs are generated by corporations, blah blah blah, all ties back into China, broski.
by The Adrian Empire » Tue May 25, 2010 12:45 am
Ausgebombt wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Most capitalist large country; USA
Most generous country in terms of charitable contributions which are being borrowed from China; USA
again with complete BS claims, for one, we're talking private donations too, further, very little of US debt is held by china, under 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt
According to that China owns about 23.4% of our debt. And is the foremost owner of our debt at about 877.5 billion.
That is not 'very little', hell, just holding 10% of our debt is very bad. VERY BAD. Having just about 1/4 of our debt is even worse.
Fact of the matter is, in my opinion, Capitalism is fine and all, but are you aware that we are currently sucking the metaphorical funstick of a Communist country?
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by Lackadaisical2 » Tue May 25, 2010 12:45 am
Ausgebombt wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Most capitalist large country; USA
Most generous country in terms of charitable contributions which are being borrowed from China; USA
again with complete BS claims, for one, we're talking private donations too, further, very little of US debt is held by china, under 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt
According to that China owns about 23.4% of our debt. And is the foremost owner of our debt at about 877.5 billion.
That is not 'very little', hell, just holding 10% of our debt is very bad. VERY BAD. Having just about 1/4 of our debt is even worse.
Fact of the matter is, in my opinion, Capitalism is fine and all, but are you aware that we are currently sucking the metaphorical funstick of a Communist country?
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by The Adrian Empire » Tue May 25, 2010 12:48 am
Ausgebombt wrote:
And those personal incomes are all generated from jobs, those jobs are generated by corporations, blah blah blah, all ties back into China, broski.
Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.
by Ausgebombt » Tue May 25, 2010 12:48 am
Self--Esteem wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Most capitalist large country; USA
Most generous country in terms of charitable contributions which are being borrowed from China; USA
again with complete BS claims, for one, we're talking private donations too, further, very little of US debt is held by china, under 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt
According to that China owns about 23.4% of our debt. And is the foremost owner of our debt at about 877.5 billion.
That is not 'very little', hell, just holding 10% of our debt is very bad. VERY BAD. Having just about 1/4 of our debt is even worse.
Fact of the matter is, in my opinion, Capitalism is fine and all, but are you aware that we are currently sucking the metaphorical funstick of a Communist country?
China? Communist? Sorry, but
Please read the third word in your link. I'l make it easier for you. GOVERNMENT. We are talking about private donations. Live this China shit alone.
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Maurepas wrote:I'd feel little less Anti-American-Marixist, if I felt America was worth a damn thing anymore.
by Sibirsky » Tue May 25, 2010 12:59 am
by The Adrian Empire » Tue May 25, 2010 1:07 am
Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.
by Self--Esteem » Tue May 25, 2010 1:08 am
Ausgebombt wrote:Self--Esteem wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:Most capitalist large country; USA
Most generous country in terms of charitable contributions which are being borrowed from China; USA
again with complete BS claims, for one, we're talking private donations too, further, very little of US debt is held by china, under 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt
According to that China owns about 23.4% of our debt. And is the foremost owner of our debt at about 877.5 billion.
That is not 'very little', hell, just holding 10% of our debt is very bad. VERY BAD. Having just about 1/4 of our debt is even worse.
Fact of the matter is, in my opinion, Capitalism is fine and all, but are you aware that we are currently sucking the metaphorical funstick of a Communist country?
China? Communist? Sorry, but
A government that has about a million different procedures you have to sift through to set up a buisness is not Capitalist, if that is what you are implying. The idea has been brought up before that there is no 'pure' political ideology. China is no different.Please read the third word in your link. I'l make it easier for you. GOVERNMENT. We are talking about private donations. Live this China shit alone.
And what do you think is government, to you, specifically? Yes, the American government might owe money to China, but does that mean it is not Capitalist? After all, is it not the very same institution that has supported a laissez-faire, free-market for centuries?Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
by Sibirsky » Tue May 25, 2010 1:09 am
The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
by Lackadaisical2 » Tue May 25, 2010 1:10 am
Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Sibirsky » Tue May 25, 2010 1:11 am
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
The Adrian Empire is God.
by The Adrian Empire » Tue May 25, 2010 1:14 am
Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.
by The Adrian Empire » Tue May 25, 2010 1:15 am
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
The Adrian Empire is God.
Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.
by Sibirsky » Tue May 25, 2010 1:17 am
The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
You credited the first quote to Self-Esteem, it was me, just corrected it for posterities sake
by The Adrian Empire » Tue May 25, 2010 1:20 am
Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
You credited the first quote to Self-Esteem, it was me, just corrected it for posterities sake
Done. My apologies. I hate the quoting system here.
Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.
by Self--Esteem » Tue May 25, 2010 1:27 am
The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Ausgebombt wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:
Also as a point of order, more Americans are employed by small businesses then corporations.
Your sources?
You seem like a devout leftist. So here is god himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucuzYVBlyY
Ahem, that was me, actually
I'm confused, what?
You credited the first quote to Self-Esteem, it was me, just corrected it for posterities sake
by Trotskylvania » Tue May 25, 2010 1:28 am
The Adrian Empire wrote:Offenheim wrote:So freaking define altruism for me. Instead of telling me what something is not, tell me what it is. Goddamn.
Altruism as you defined it was an unselfish act, to further define it, it is an act taken on by a person with no visible benefit or later profit to the person for the expressed intent of helping another at their own cost.
What we observe is rather not selfless but a concern for their own profit, a poorly balanced proposal would mean they leave with nothing, so to go with the most balanced point is rather selfish, they are only trying to keep as much money as possible, it is just that the majority of people aren't clued into person B's psyche enough to risk anything more then a completely fair deal.
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by Self--Esteem » Tue May 25, 2010 1:30 am
Trotskylvania wrote:The Adrian Empire wrote:Offenheim wrote:So freaking define altruism for me. Instead of telling me what something is not, tell me what it is. Goddamn.
Altruism as you defined it was an unselfish act, to further define it, it is an act taken on by a person with no visible benefit or later profit to the person for the expressed intent of helping another at their own cost.
What we observe is rather not selfless but a concern for their own profit, a poorly balanced proposal would mean they leave with nothing, so to go with the most balanced point is rather selfish, they are only trying to keep as much money as possible, it is just that the majority of people aren't clued into person B's psyche enough to risk anything more then a completely fair deal.
What defines altruism is not reward or potential reward, but rather intent.
If I help out the little old lady next door out of the goodness of my heart without an expectation of reward, it's still an altruistic action even if the little old lady decides to give me some home made cookies for my trouble.
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