Your Nation's Air Force Mark II:

[Yukonastan]

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Not that it really went anywhere.

AEW&C isn't electronic warfare, at least not in the sense that we're discussing it here.

[The Akasha Colony]

Even if you're being jammed, you know roughly where this jamming signal originates from. Jamming equipment takes up pylon slots and huge amounts of power to operate, hampering its combat load (but not its effectiveness).

Not necessarily in either case. One of the primary objectives of deceptive jamming techniques like cross eye jamming and terrain bounce is to make the enemy believe the signal originates elsewhere, thus luring missiles away toward these false contacts. Big systems like AN/ALQ-99 are large because they are standoff jammers, quite a bit larger than a self-defense jammer which can work at shorter ranges.

[Imperializt Russia]

"IR range" can be solved with multi-mode seekers and late terminal seeking.

Even if you're being jammed, you know roughly where this jamming signal originates from. Jamming equipment takes up pylon slots and huge amounts of power to operate, hampering its combat load (but not its effectiveness).

Hence why dedicated EW aircraft were designed, no?

They're not combat aircraft.
I have no idea how useful their gear is against other aircraft. It's almost certainly powerful enough to dick about with it, but since major air-to-air radars all overlap (Vihenia posted about it quite a while ago, the radar sets of east and west aircraft, and also their radar-guided missiles, could possibly electronically interfere with each other and significantly impact the ability to radar to guide munitions, particularly against low-observable and stealth targets), this might dick with your own aircraft's air-to-air radars. Or burn them completely out.

[Atlantica]

Fellow NS-ers, how would you evaluate the twin-engine KF-X (a Korean 'stealth' fighter) for an air force, in order to counter the F-35?

1.) Which KF-X design are you talking about? KF-X C-103 or KFX-E?

2.) Their specs are still mostly on paper and mostly incomplete (we don't even know the full paper specs yet). So can't evaluate until more info is available.

Well, obviously, I'm talking about the KF-X C103 design: the KFX-E is a singe-engine model, which would suck even more than the LCA Tejas.

[Rich and Corporations]

Procurement Strategy:

High-Med-Lo

High

Stealth Strike Fighter (F-35), CATOBAR, Mach 2.5

Stealth Long-range Fighter, CATOBAR, Mach 2.5

Stealth Bomber (B-2)

Stealth Aerial Refueler/Transport

Med

Heavy Bomber

Close Air Support, CATOBAR

Interceptor Aircraft

Aerial Refueler

Lo

Close Air Support/Trainer, variant of CAS aircraft with cheaper electronics, cheaper engine, cannot take off from carriers

Cheap Transport Aircraft

Cheap Carrier to Land mail carrier

[Jute]

This is a thread discussing realistic modern-tech air force, right? Is there a thread for more creative, fantasy-like air forces? As my small island nation is using tamed predator birds as a kind of "avian air force" instead of modern jets. (Figured it'd be more interesting, since almost everyone uses jets...)

[Crookfur]

This is a thread discussing realistic modern-tech air force, right? Is there a thread for more creative, fantasy-like air forces? As my small island nation is using tamed predator birds as a kind of "avian air force" instead of modern jets. (Figured it'd be more interesting, since almost everyone uses jets...)

You would post them here although to be honest it wouldn't appeas though there would be much to discuss in regards to the concept of using living creatures as an "airforce".

It might be workable in an universe/storyland/setting that doesn't have anything modern but its not soemthing that going to be remotely workable alongside others using modern aircraft.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

It might be workable in an universe/storyland/setting that doesn't have anything modern but its not soemthing that going to be remotely workable alongside others using modern aircraft.

Or even firearms. Although it would be comical to see an air defense company composed entirely of dogs and men in orange vests.

[Yukonastan]

This is a thread discussing realistic modern-tech air force, right? Is there a thread for more creative, fantasy-like air forces? As my small island nation is using tamed predator birds as a kind of "avian air force" instead of modern jets. (Figured it'd be more interesting, since almost everyone uses jets...)

You would post them here although to be honest it wouldn't appeas though there would be much to discuss in regards to the concept of using living creatures as an "airforce".

It might be workable in an universe/storyland/setting that doesn't have anything modern but its not soemthing that going to be remotely workable alongside others using modern aircraft.

My antiair gunners just jizzed in their pants, that's how excited they are about your avian force attacking. I mean, one even grabbed his ten-gauge shotgun when he heard about this.

It might be workable in an universe/storyland/setting that doesn't have anything modern but its not soemthing that going to be remotely workable alongside others using modern aircraft.

Or even firearms. Although it would be comical to see an air defense company composed entirely of dogs and men in orange vests.

IT'S DUCK HUNTING SEASON!

[Ursidae Imperium]

Bearforce One

[Vassenor]

It might be workable in an universe/storyland/setting that doesn't have anything modern but its not soemthing that going to be remotely workable alongside others using modern aircraft.

Or even firearms. Although it would be comical to see an air defense company composed entirely of dogs and men in orange vests.

PICTURE RELATED.

[Jute]

I guess I should have elaborated on that one, since of course it wouldn't be as defenseless as you make it out to be. And it was more supposed to be air defense, not an an offensive force. Either way, glad I could provide some with a laugh at least.

[San-Silvacian]

I'm engaging your birds with infrared missiles at 15km.

[Consortium of Manchukuo]

I'm engaging your birds with infrared missiles at 15km.

Can modern infrared missiles lock up on a bird? I remember there was a discussion about how sensitive infrared missiles were but I legitimately have forgotten what the conclusions were, therefor leaving me at a loss to discern whether they possess such a capability.

[New Vihenia]

Can modern infrared missiles lock up on a bird? I remember there was a discussion about how sensitive infrared missiles were but I legitimately have forgotten what the conclusions were, therefor leaving me at a loss to discern whether they possess such a capability.

Nope, modern IR seeker works in 4-5 micron IR band or smaller. Birds and any other living creature emit at longer wavelength. Thus the seeker's material may have not enough response to such target.

[Yukonastan]

I'm engaging your birds with infrared missiles at 15km.

I'm engaging your birds with 9 birdshot at 0.05 km.

[Emmerian Republic]

I'm engaging your birds with infrared missiles at 15km.

I'm engaging your birds with 9 birdshot at 0.05 km.

What, you're in a rp already, or are you just expressing that you can easily shot down the aircraft.

[Purpelia]

I'm engaging your birds with 9 birdshot at 0.05 km.

What, you're in a rp already, or are you just expressing that you can easily shot down the aircraft.

You really have to read the whole discussion by following the quotes for any of this to make sense to you.

[Korva]

I'm engaging your birds with 9 birdshot at 0.05 km.

What, you're in a rp already, or are you just expressing that you can easily shot down the aircraft.

We are all in a meta-rp where we rp as posters in a thread concerned with realism in rps.

post losses

[Kouralia]

I'm engaging your birds with infrared missiles at 15km.

I'm engaging your birds with 9 birdshot at 0.05 km.

*Bird has JDAM strapped to its belly in a special launch-thing*

*Bird does not get 0.05km close to you*

*You die*

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

-single tear-


No malicious intent, ofc.

[Atlantica]

A question, fellow NS-ers - how would the J-31 (instead of the KF-X, which I asked earlier) be as a counterpunch for the F-35?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

A question, fellow NS-ers - how would the J-31 (instead of the KF-X, which I asked earlier) be as a counterpunch for the F-35?

Hard to say. It's still in development, and any reports coming from China itself will be grossly skewed for propaganda purposes.

[Padnak]

A question, fellow NS-ers - how would the J-31 (instead of the KF-X, which I asked earlier) be as a counterpunch for the F-35?

Electronically its probably far behind, but as an overall aircraft it would probably be able to put up at least a testing fight

[The Akasha Colony]

A question, fellow NS-ers - how would the J-31 (instead of the KF-X, which I asked earlier) be as a counterpunch for the F-35?

We have next to no information on the J-31 at all, and it's very far from completion. Nevermind electronics, the Chinese (and the Russians as well) haven't even developed the finalized engine for their fifth-generation fighters, which is a rather important item from a performance standpoint.