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Postby The Templar High Council » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:52 pm

Ya already showed it to me. And I still like it.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:55 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:Ya already showed it to me. And I still like it.

I know, I was just wondering if there was anything we missed.
Otherwise we should be good to go...
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Postby Diabolus Thronus » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:59 pm

Charmera wrote:So this is a prototype OOC, it's not exactly completely polished and the Rank Powers could use some work (I could use some help implementing Nat's idea).

Demons, Devils, Angels. Lend me your ears. I will tell you of how we all began.

In the beginning of the Universe, there was the Positive Plane, and the Negative Plane. Pure creation and pure destruction respectively. In stasis they lived, neither coming in contact with the other. However due to an accident, or by design, the two planes clashed, creating the universe as we know it. With this, Gods were born.

These gods created a world of paradise, Earth, and created children, Angels and Archon, to populate this world. They created their own dimension, Heaven, which they resided in with their favourite children. Angels were being of order and law, while Archons were of pure freedom. Peace was eternal, and a golden age was created. Humankind was born of a union between Archon and Angel, beings whose soul was destined to become one of the two when they died. All was well in Heaven and Earth.

However the tenth God, Vakoir, was curious about rumoured life before creation. Odd inexplicable structures, forbidden knowledge and rumours led him to the edge of the universe. He took with him many Archon, the free spirited Archon's loving all knowledge. Unfortunately, what they learnt drove many of them mad. The ones that survived this madness tried to escape and return to the Gods and Angels they loved, but these gods saw whatever was on that edge had tainted them. This corruption could poison their paradise if they did not act fast, and so they exiled the survivors in an old and mysterious plane known as the Abyss.

The angel, Asmodeus (Or Adam as he was once known), had an Archon love named Eve (Or Lilith as she would come to be known). The exiled of that love left him in despair. In a desperate and angered move, he took a Legion of angels sought Vakoir, whom the archons claimed survived, to vent their rage and sorrow on him. It was practically suicide, as they knew they could not stand up to a god which created them.

They found him wandering the edge of the planes, his eyes full of pain. He tried to run from the angels, which confused them, as he could fight them and defeat them. When they caught up with the god, he reacted with fear, pleading them to go away. But the Angels were to blinded by rage at the fate of their loves, attacked him. They pelted him with thousands upon thousands of arrows, spears and throwing stones, yet the god did nothing to halt his own demise. The God exploded with an unholy light once he expired. It tainted all that saw it, yet the Angels almost welcomed it. Knowing, somehow, it was the only way to save their beloveds. They warped and changed, becoming the devils we know them to be today.

Meanwhile, the Archons were going through hardship. The gods could (or would) only provide the barest of scraps for sustenance. They had to turn to eating the few souls that managed to end up in the Abyss and even feeding off each other. Unfortunately the exile had not halted the spread of taint among Archons, the Angels having to round up and send any Archons infected with it to the Abyss. Not all the Archons went quietly, and both Archon and Angel had to learn violence. Those that ended up in the Abyss changed, become what was to be known as Demons. These new Demons also had to combat the original denizens of the Abyss, Rakshasa, Asura and Oni among other horrors.

Eve, having lost almost all hope, suddenly heard the telepathic voice of her love, Asmodeus. Her heart sang with joy as she heard that he had a way of breaking through the planes barrier, but he would need her help.

Eve and Asmodeus used newfound powers from the taint they had suffered to make a bridge, between the Material Plane and the Abyss. They rushed across this metaphorical bridge with Eves Demons and Asmodeus' Devils, but once they met, they embraced in love, but already a rift had begun to form between Eve and Asmodeus.

As they had to plan a defence, as now the Gods and angels would have to eradicate this taint, they noticed new things about each other. Eve noticed Asmodeus' was now subtly manipulative and controlling, while Asmodeus thought Eve had become Harsh, Barbaric and Savage.

Soon, and even more shocking. The once pure Devils and Demons began wanting vengeance for being shunned as the bitterness and frustration both factions felt increased. The plans for defence soon became a siege of Heaven, with Asmodeus and Eve leading the charge.

However, after they had broken the gates, the armies soon turned on one another. Each lover calling the other a cheap imitation of the love they once knew. They fought each other with pure bitter frustration and rage, their long wait and efforts to reunite wasted, an act which would lead to the Blood Wars.

Soon, the Angels responded and kicked both factions out of Heaven. The Gods retreated even deeper into heaven for unknown reasons, not even in contact with their most trusted angels. Pure Archons were almost extinct and Angels had to regroup in heaven and repair it. The Devils created their own plane, Hades, or the Nine hells. The war left the universe scarred, in fact the only ones who prospered were the humans, who took advantage of the room to grow and expand on earth after the retreat of the Angels.

Both Demon and Devil have been spreading sin in the world to fight the war against one another and Heaven for countless centuries now. Asmodeus and Eve were last seen in conflict in Limbo, rumours say their still there, fighting. The conflict was known as the "War of Red Tears", or the Blood Wars as it was to be known now.

Now, we live in an ailing universe where hope is a rare commodity. Even the humans now consume themselves with petty wars. This universe is stagnating, slowly rotting like a corpse.

But what if I told you someone could make a difference? Someone could change something in this Universe, to end the stalemate and bring change to a universe that desperately needs it.

What if I told you, that change was coming soon, for better or worse?

You are all souls recently sent to hell and the Abyss find themselves in a war between the Demons and Devils. Promoted to real fiends and and recruited by the Demon Mother (The mother of all Demons, in a metaphorical sense) or Asmodai (The Ex-Leader of the Devils), your job is to climb the ranks and eventually replace the rotting and increasingly incompetent leaders of your faction and destroy the other faction (Devils in the case of Demons and Demons in the case of devils).

The Devils will be put under a Archduchess loyal to Asmodan, and have to deal with the machinations and politics of the devils court and hierarchy. Besides that, you will have direct raids against Demons and against some mortal cities. Corruption and Sin will be the main order of the day for Devils, for you gain power from such things.

The Demons must follow the direction of a Prince loyal to the Mother. Your's will be missions of destruction, Sabotage and defiling. Plus there will be the chaotic whirlwind that is Abyss life, for the Demons are not the first residents of the Abyss… There will be direct confrontations with Devils and their servants. Destruction and spreading suffering and annulation will be the Demons Modus Operandi.

Devil Ranks

0. "Dirt" or Residents
1. Serf
2.Squire
3. Knight
4. Baron/Baroness
5. Count/Countess
6. Duke/Duchess
7. Archduke/Archduchess

1. Enhanced Condition (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Devil aura (An aura of energy which protects devils from some damaged)
2. Condition Boost, Dimensional Teleportation (Can teleport to other planes), Telekinesis, Unholy Weapon or Armour Manifestation (Can manifest a weapon of unholy energies which gets stronger as one is promoted)
3. Supernatural Condition (basic)(Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Hellfire Manipulation, Possession (Can posses humans), Unholy Taint (Can counter weak magic spells with an aura of Unholiness), Devil Form (Change from a human looking form to a devil form)
4. Supernatural Condition (Enhanced) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Poison/Narcotic Blood (Can either have blood which is poisonous to humans, angels and fiends or is pleasurable and hallucinogenic), Unholy Touch (A touch which causes immense pain to mortals and angels), Semi Immortality
5. Supernatural Condition (Expert) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Memory Implantation/Erasing (Can create memories and erase them by touching a mortal or a squire/serf level demon), Life force Draining (Can drain the life force of humans or low level fiends to heal oneself)
6. Supernatural Condition (Advanced) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Ethereal form, Pain Inducement, Devil Summoning (Can summon Knight, Squire and Serf level devils)
7. Supernatural Condition (Master) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Hell Manipulation (You may manipulate your hell as you desire), Phylactery Immortality(You bind your soul to a single object, which you resurrect at if you die. However you will die if the phylactery is destroyed), Serf Domination (You can override the will of Serfs, forcing them to do as you please)

Demon Ranks
0. Maggots
1. Spawn
2. Drones
3. Pack-demons
4. Pack Leader
5. General
6. Lord/Lady
7. Prince/Princess

1. Enhanced Condition (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Demon Regeneration (Faster than Devils)
2. Condition Boost, Dimentional teleportation(Can teleport to other planes), Elemental manipulation (Choose 1 from Earth, Wind, Water and Fire), Claw retraction (Can manifest claws that get stronger with time)
3. Supernatural Condition (basic)(Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Blood Manipulation (Can manipulate one's own blood and mortals blood), Possession (Can posses mortals), Demon Form(See Devil form, except more demonic), Defiling Taint (Can counter weak magic with an aura of taint)
4. Supernatural Condition (Enhanced) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Defiling Touch (Your touch can burn angels and mortals at will, though angels will be less effected), Acid Blood(Your blood is acidic, able to burn through metal),Semi Immortality(Imune to ageing)
5. Supernatural Condition (Expert) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Supernatural Horror/Beauty (Choose one. Mortals and low level demons that see you will either be draw to you or repelled by you), Necromancy (Able to raise the recent dead as undead Ghouls)
6. Supernatural Condition (Advanced) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Ethreal Form, Rage Inducement (Can induce rage in demons and mortals, causing them to become stronger), Demon Summoning (Can summon Pack-Demons, Spawn and Drone demons)
7. Supernatural Condition (Master) (Strength, Speed, Reflexes, Endurance), Phylactery Immortality (You bind your soul to a single object, which you resurrect at if you die. However you will die if the phylactery is destroyed), Layer Manipulation(You can manipulate your layer to your will), Spawn Domination(You can override the will of spawn, forcing them to do as you please)

Afinity:
As Devils and Demons, You gain power from certain things. For example, as a Devil, you might have an affinity for Greed. So the more wealthy you are, the more powerful you are. If you picked Sin, you would gain power from your own capability to sin and the sins of mortals around you. If you chose Helfire, you would gain power from Helfire around you and be immune to its effects.

On the flip side, with an affinity you also have a weakness, so those with an affinity for Greed will be weakened by generosity. Those with an affinity for Helfire may be weakened by water or cold. This is also on top of a weakness for Angelic weaponry and Holy water that all fiends share. (You also have a deep seated hatred of Garlic, it makes Devils and Demons sneeze uncontrollably)

Remember it must make sense. You can't be a Demon with an affinity for kindness, or a Devil with an affinity for humbleness or selflessness.

Crime:
Everyone is sent to hell or the Abyss for a reason. You could have angered one of the gods, you could have been a greedy and selfish human in life and been sent to hell, you could have killed out of rage and been sent to the Abyss, you could have been dragged to the dark planes by a gang of roving fiends or you could have been one of the unlucky few that managed to anger one of the Archdukes of Hell or Demon Princes themselves, who slew you and stole your soul. There are nearly uncountable ways to be sent to the two Fiendish planes.

OP:
Co-OPs:

Rules:
Adhere to the basic rules of NS roleplaying (No Godmodding, No Metagaming)
Obey the Ops and Co-ops, their words are law.
Make an APP before posting in the IC
Try not to post one liners, keep posts to three lines minimum.
Don't be an ass and treat others fairly.
Deamon is an acceptable alternate term for Demons. (Daemon is okay too)
Limit IC in the OOC and vice versa.
No, Devils and Demons are not the same thing if we did not make that abundantly clear.
Most importantly, have fun!

Remember, just because your Devils and Demons doesn't mean you have to be completely evil. There can be characters who are shades of grey and reluctant Fiends.

Also, this is set in the twenty first century, earth (With magic and Fantasy elements)

APP: (Please delete info in brackets)
Name:
Age before going to Hell/The Abyss:
Time Spent in Hell/The Abyss: (No more than a year)
Gender:
Appearance:
Personality:
Demon or Devil?: (No Angels, Archons or Humans yet)
Affinity: (Should relate to unique power, tell us how your affinity works)
Weakness: (Should relate to unique power and Affinity)
First unique power: (Devils will only have one unique power throughout, but it can be strengthened with further promotions. Demons on the other hand gain a single new unique power per level.)
"Crime": (Why you were sent to hell/The Abyss. See the section on ones crime)
Bio:


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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:41 pm

Did you have anything in mind for the characteristics of each of the nine hells? Because I have an idea.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:52 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:Did you have anything in mind for the characteristics of each of the nine hells? Because I have an idea.

I've had some ideas, each Hell would be based on the Archduke ruling it.

So we have
Belphegor (Deception, Lies)
Astara (Pleasure, Seduction)
Mephistopheles (Imprisonment, Punishment)
Balaam (Greed, Corruption)
Adramalech (Laws, Bureaucracy)
Abaddon (Blades, Weapons)
Lyrianna (Ice Queen of Lymia)
Leviathan (Betrayal, Vengeance)
Samael (Tactics, War, "Judge of Souls")

But I could use ideas for quite a few of them as the aspects are a little hard to transfer into Hells, what do you have in mind?
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:53 pm

Also, this is the Structure of both the Hells and the Abyss.

Devil Political structure.

Hades is decided into nine "Hells" each of which is divided into three circles. A soul going to Hades will be judged and sentenced to one of the Hells first or second circles. There the soul is tortured for the sins of his life until he can accumulate enough souls to be "promoted". Third Circles serve as homes for fully bred Devils. Second Circles can also serve as the homes to Knights, Squires and Serfs.

Each Hell is ruled by an Archduke and under him are nine Dukes, Each circle is ruled by three dukes under each of which are Eight Counts. Each Duke has territory to protect and govern within the circle.

Under each Duke there are eight Counts who govern a different aspect of a circle for their Duke and to a lesser extend the whole Circle (Finances, Security, etc) Under each of these are seven Barons, who serve as Enforcers, Captains, Ministers or other roles which the Counts need to perform their job.

Under Barons are the Knights, Squires and Serfs. Serfs serve as slaves or servants to more powerful Devils. Squires perform a similar role, yet have more prestige and can own their own serfs. Unfortunately they can also be conscripted now, and serve in the Devil army under a Knight. Knights are the first position of any real respect or substantial freedom in Hades, often they can serve most any role they please, though they can be conscripted at any time.

In summary, each hell has
1 Archduke
9 Dukes
72 Counts
504 Barons
Countless numbers of Knights, Squires and Serfs.

The Abyss is divided into 13 layers.

Each Layer is ruled by a Prince, Under him are a multitude of lesser demons who form a pecking order with the more powerful demons on top and the weak ones on the bottom. While Hades is operated as a country the Demons are more of mix between a massive army of criminals, Bandits and thieves and a loose collection of feudal tribes or city states.

A Prince has authority over nine Demon Lords, who pay him taxes and levies. Lords employ Eight General's to marshal the Pack Leaders into different tasks. Pack Leaders rule over tribes of Spawn, Drones and Pack-demons. Spawn being the lowest of the low, basically thrown at a task at mass and corralled by Pack Demons, Drones are mostly free yet are often intimidated into work but they have more respect, power and authority over the Spawn. Pack Demons are respected members of the tribe, with power and serve an advising role to the Pack Leader.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:11 pm

Charmera wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Did you have anything in mind for the characteristics of each of the nine hells? Because I have an idea.

I've had some ideas, each Hell would be based on the Archduke ruling it.

So we have
Belphegor (Deception, Lies)
Astara (Pleasure, Seduction)
Mephistopheles (Imprisonment, Punishment)
Balaam (Greed, Corruption)
Adramalech (Laws, Bureaucracy)
Abaddon (Blades, Weapons)
Lyrianna (Ice Queen of Lymia)
Leviathan (Betrayal, Vengeance)
Samael (Tactics, War, "Judge of Souls")

But I could use ideas for quite a few of them as the aspects are a little hard to transfer into Hells, what do you have in mind?

Should we tell them who I am now or later?
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:16 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
Charmera wrote:I've had some ideas, each Hell would be based on the Archduke ruling it.

So we have
Belphegor (Deception, Lies)
Astara (Pleasure, Seduction)
Mephistopheles (Imprisonment, Punishment)
Balaam (Greed, Corruption)
Adramalech (Laws, Bureaucracy)
Abaddon (Blades, Weapons)
Lyrianna (Ice Queen of Lymia)
Leviathan (Betrayal, Vengeance)
Samael (Tactics, War, "Judge of Souls")

But I could use ideas for quite a few of them as the aspects are a little hard to transfer into Hells, what do you have in mind?

Should we tell them who I am now or later?

I would tell them once the OOC is up, but it's your choice. I never said it was secret.
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:19 pm

Ok, all I can say is: That's Fucking Awesome!!!! Can't wait 'til this is up.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:30 pm

Isle of Lithonia wrote:Ok, all I can say is: That's Fucking Awesome!!!! Can't wait 'til this is up.

The OOC is now: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=304820
The time of Man and Angel is closing, now is time of Fiends. :twisted:
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:32 pm

Charmera wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Did you have anything in mind for the characteristics of each of the nine hells? Because I have an idea.

I've had some ideas, each Hell would be based on the Archduke ruling it.

So we have
Belphegor (Deception, Lies)
Astara (Pleasure, Seduction)
Mephistopheles (Imprisonment, Punishment)
Balaam (Greed, Corruption)
Adramalech (Laws, Bureaucracy)
Abaddon (Blades, Weapons)
Lyrianna (Ice Queen of Lymia)
Leviathan (Betrayal, Vengeance)
Samael (Tactics, War, "Judge of Souls")

But I could use ideas for quite a few of them as the aspects are a little hard to transfer into Hells, what do you have in mind?

OK, so basically my idea was that each of seven of them could correspond to one of the seven deadly sins (or all of them could, since in the past there were actually nine). In the 7 sins system, new souls would all wind up in one of them, from where they would be assigned to a new one depending on which sins they committed in life. In the 9 sins system, they would automatically be sent to whichever matched up with their sins the best. They would be assigned jobs, with the jobs (especially the high-tier ones) varying between the hells and certain abilities being granted based on which job one held.

But your ideas look really good.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:36 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Charmera wrote:I've had some ideas, each Hell would be based on the Archduke ruling it.

So we have
Belphegor (Deception, Lies)
Astara (Pleasure, Seduction)
Mephistopheles (Imprisonment, Punishment)
Balaam (Greed, Corruption)
Adramalech (Laws, Bureaucracy)
Abaddon (Blades, Weapons)
Lyrianna (Ice Queen of Lymia)
Leviathan (Betrayal, Vengeance)
Samael (Tactics, War, "Judge of Souls")

But I could use ideas for quite a few of them as the aspects are a little hard to transfer into Hells, what do you have in mind?

OK, so basically my idea was that each of seven of them could correspond to one of the seven deadly sins (or all of them could, since in the past there were actually nine). In the 7 sins system, new souls would all wind up in one of them, from where they would be assigned to a new one depending on which sins they committed in life. In the 9 sins system, they would automatically be sent to whichever matched up with their sins the best. They would be assigned jobs, with the jobs (especially the high-tier ones) varying between the hells and certain abilities being granted based on which job one held.

But your ideas look really good.

That would be a good idea. Each of the hells could a sin ascribed to it (I haven't worked out which one would work, and the sins would be different in this universe) and Samael would judge you and send you to one of them depending on what you had done, you would be tormented (Ironically tormented) until you could get enough souls for a promotion, then your life contributing to the wellbeing of hell begins.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:47 pm

Charmera wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:OK, so basically my idea was that each of seven of them could correspond to one of the seven deadly sins (or all of them could, since in the past there were actually nine). In the 7 sins system, new souls would all wind up in one of them, from where they would be assigned to a new one depending on which sins they committed in life. In the 9 sins system, they would automatically be sent to whichever matched up with their sins the best. They would be assigned jobs, with the jobs (especially the high-tier ones) varying between the hells and certain abilities being granted based on which job one held.

But your ideas look really good.

That would be a good idea. Each of the hells could a sin ascribed to it (I haven't worked out which one would work, and the sins would be different in this universe) and Samael would judge you and send you to one of them depending on what you had done, you would be tormented (Ironically tormented) until you could get enough souls for a promotion, then your life contributing to the wellbeing of hell begins.

Well if you want to make different sins, we could fairly easily work them into the framework you've already got. For instance, betrayal in itself could be considered a sin, so that would go straight under Leviathan's hell.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:52 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Charmera wrote:That would be a good idea. Each of the hells could a sin ascribed to it (I haven't worked out which one would work, and the sins would be different in this universe) and Samael would judge you and send you to one of them depending on what you had done, you would be tormented (Ironically tormented) until you could get enough souls for a promotion, then your life contributing to the wellbeing of hell begins.

Well if you want to make different sins, we could fairly easily work them into the framework you've already got. For instance, betrayal in itself could be considered a sin, so that would go straight under Leviathan's hell.

Indeed...
So perhaps

Deception
Lust
Crime
Greed
Tyranny
Rage
Arrogance
Vengeance
Heresy (Since Sameal is the one who in in charge of combating the angels)
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:56 pm

Charmera wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Well if you want to make different sins, we could fairly easily work them into the framework you've already got. For instance, betrayal in itself could be considered a sin, so that would go straight under Leviathan's hell.

Indeed...
So perhaps

Deception
Lust
Crime
Greed
Tyranny
Rage
Arrogance
Vengeance
Heresy (Since Sameal is the one who in in charge of combating the angels)

Sounds good.

Also, which one of those would be in charge of deals? In my mind it would be either Belphegor or Balaam, but I dunno.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:58 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Charmera wrote:Indeed...
So perhaps

Deception
Lust
Crime
Greed
Tyranny
Rage
Arrogance
Vengeance
Heresy (Since Sameal is the one who in in charge of combating the angels)

Sounds good.

Also, which one of those would be in charge of deals? In my mind it would be either Belphegor or Balaam, but I dunno.

Well all Hells would have a "Legal Team" which would be in charge of coming up with crafty contract and deals. But I would imagine either Belphegor or Adramalech would be best at that.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:03 pm

Charmera wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Sounds good.

Also, which one of those would be in charge of deals? In my mind it would be either Belphegor or Balaam, but I dunno.

Well all Hells would have a "Legal Team" which would be in charge of coming up with crafty contract and deals. But I would imagine either Belphegor or Adramalech would be best at that.

Sounds cool. And I think you're right in that Adramalech would be well-suited to that.
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Postby The Fallen Jedi » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:19 pm

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Postby The Templar High Council » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:22 pm

Just found out that IRL, Belphegor is the embodiment of Sloth.

Not gonna try and fix that, since I was the one who wrote the list of high fiends.

And Char, would you mind adding a link to the CoM near the beginning of the OP? I put a code in the OP of this thread just for that.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:23 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:Just found out that IRL, Belphegor is the embodiment of Sloth.

Not gonna try and fix that, since I was the one who wrote the list of high fiends.

And Char, would you mind adding a link to the CoM near the beginning of the OP? I put a code in the OP of this thread just for that.

Sure. I'l do that now.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:25 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:Just found out that IRL, Belphegor is the embodiment of Sloth.

Not gonna try and fix that, since I was the one who wrote the list of high fiends.

And Char, would you mind adding a link to the CoM near the beginning of the OP? I put a code in the OP of this thread just for that.

Yeah, each sin actually has a demon ascribed to it. :p In fact, I have a well-known grimoire (The Lesser Key of Solomon and the Ars Goetia) downloaded on my computer which has a huge list of demons and their correspondences.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:27 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:Just found out that IRL, Belphegor is the embodiment of Sloth.

Not gonna try and fix that, since I was the one who wrote the list of high fiends.

And Char, would you mind adding a link to the CoM near the beginning of the OP? I put a code in the OP of this thread just for that.

Yeah, each sin actually has a demon ascribed to it. :p In fact, I have a well-known grimoire (The Lesser Key of Solomon and the Ars Goetia) downloaded on my computer which has a huge list of demons and their correspondences.

I did internet research. It was confusing. Could you let me know what the embodiment of Deceit would be in Christian lore?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:34 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Yeah, each sin actually has a demon ascribed to it. :p In fact, I have a well-known grimoire (The Lesser Key of Solomon and the Ars Goetia) downloaded on my computer which has a huge list of demons and their correspondences.

I did internet research. It was confusing. Could you let me know what the embodiment of Deceit would be in Christian lore?

Apparently Belial is associated with "spirits of deceit" in the Bible, and in the LKSAG (the aforementioned grimoire) Shan is said to "deceive [the magician/exorcist], and tell him many lies." Hauras is said to "Lie in all these Things, and deceive and beguile the Exorcist in these things, or in such and such business", "these things" referring to his attribute of "[giving] True Answers of all things, Present, Past, and to Come."
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Postby Imperial--japan » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:38 pm

Uhg. I shall apply for membership of this esteemed organization. I shall face my trials with honor.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:38 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:I did internet research. It was confusing. Could you let me know what the embodiment of Deceit would be in Christian lore?

Apparently Belial is associated with "spirits of deceit" in the Bible, and in the LKSAG (the aforementioned grimoire) Shan is said to "deceive [the magician/exorcist], and tell him many lies." Hauras is said to "Lie in all these Things, and deceive and beguile the Exorcist in these things, or in such and such business", "these things" referring to his attribute of "[giving] True Answers of all things, Present, Past, and to Come."

Belial. I overlooked that one with Char because it didn't sound as cool.
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