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The Lazarene Gazette - Delegates arrive for Conference!

Postby The Lazarene Gazette II » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:44 pm

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The Lazarene Gazette is the official news outlet of The People's Republic of Lazarus.

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The opinions presented in any article may not necessarily be the official position of the government of the People's Republic of Lazarus.
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Postby The Lazarene Gazette II » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:46 pm

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Comrade Chairman Funkadelia Bans Opium!
1ST JULY, 2014
By Llamas



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Ships of the Evil Colonial Empire of TRR in a Lazarene Port


Breaking news today as Chairman Funkadelia announced the banning of opium. This reportedly followed after it was found that many in the government, including myself, had developed an acute addiction to the substance that was harming their ability to perform their jobs.

"Give me... Just one... JUST GIVE ME ALL THE HAPPY STUFF!" said one Lazarene who was quizzed on the matter.

In a radical speech brought before the People's Congress, which was not understood by a single member due to their being too damn high, Funkadelia blasted Unibot's destructive and evil decision to bring this addictive substance, supposedly as a "gift" meant to be used for happiness and pain relief, to Lazarus.

"This evil substance was brought before us in the cloak of friendship, happiness, and mutual gain. But it is not this! This drug, this tool of the foreign imperialists, has brought massive damage to the Lazarene economy and people! We must confiscate all supplies and destroy them, effective immediately!"

Unibot, meanwhile, condemned this just exercise of the Lazarene government's authority to regulate imports.

"This is a clear breach of free trade if I ever saw one!" raged the delegate before a meeting of the Rejected Realms' politicians. "We will not stand for this!" When one member of the audience asked him why free trade was really that important, Unibot reportedly mumbled something about profits before wandering away.

At this time, TRR is expected to launch an invasion of Lazarus in the evening of Friday, July 4, a special day of celebration for foreign imperialists. They plan to seize major ports and force Lazarus to open itself to trade. Who will win at this point is uncertain.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:48 pm

I'm going to guess we've lost the password to the original Gazette nation :palm:

Maybe ask for the threads to be merged or lock the old one.
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Postby Funkadelia » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:41 pm

Unibot III wrote:(Image)

Soon "Phase Two" will be complete...

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Postby The Republic of Llamas » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:12 pm

Feel quite proud at this. :D

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Postby The Lazarene Gazette II » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:57 pm

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Funk Appoints Llamas as VC!
3RD JULY, 2014
By Ikania


THE FORBIDDEN CITY- After nearly a month without a Vice Chairman, Chairman Funkadelia appointed someone to the position today. This person is known as Llamas, but also goes by Ezelis, or his other nation, the Republic of Llamas, or sometimes just TROL.

Llamas has had a very large impact on every region he's been in- I should know, having been with him since, well, actually almost a year ago, since it was in early July. He is a reformist, through and through. Wherever he goes, some sort of policy change occurs in his field of work. From Nesapo, where he created the 'Nesapoli Council' as a governing body along with an economic co-operation organization with a really long name similar to the EU, to Khora, where he helped usher in the system of government and many other policies, until it's tragic collapse in early January. And undoubtedly, Llamas carried his ambitious reformism to the PRL when he came in the great exodus from Khora.

Llamas did great things in the Cultural District, such as organizing a roleplay based on the Crimean War, which sadly never took off. He was appointed to the People's Congress, where he put forth his ambitious Cultural Reform act, which gained much support, before being unfortunately vetoed by then-Chairman Kazmr. He resigned in rage at the futility of the Congress, calling it 'rubber stamp', but soon came back. He also helped contribute to Governor Bodobol's Lazarene Historical Project, and helped out greatly in the cartography and map of the PRL.

But now is probably the pinnacle of Llamas' time in Lazarus. He was named a Vanguard of the People, and was then appointed to the position of Cultural Governor after Bodobol's inactivity. He arguably has had the most impact of any Cultural Governor to date, setting up the first RMB invasion of the PRL by the forces of Sauron of the region Mordor. He has also organized another invasion from the Rejected Realms, labeled the Opium War, and even posted an LG article on the affair. The war is taking place tomorrow by the way, so bring out those guns and light up the invaders like it's the fourth of July.

Overall, Llamas has made a great impact on this region, and though there were some petty squabbles, it is undoubtedly assured that he is more than capable of this position and on behalf of the Information District, I say; good luck, buddy.
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Postby The Lazarene Gazette II » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:59 pm

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Controversy Swirls Around "Liberate Haven" Proposal
4TH JULY, 2014
By Nautarya


The floor of the Security Council was left in quite a ruckus yesterday as Mallorea and Riva, a forum moderator and known raider, tabled a resolution to strike down the password on the historic roleplaying region of Haven, controversially citing as justification that "[raiders] could utilize the region for far more interesting things than the current residents" and that the region was "heavily involved in the 2013 coup of The South Pacific". Originally meeting little resistance, things took a turn when members of the roleplaying community voiced concerns about the draft, noting that the members of the region who participated in the coup were no longer present and that this would set a precedent for the use of Security Council resolutions in order to coerce roleplaying regions into participating in R/D. Many also pointed out that the Security Council was founded to prevent raids and keep regions safe, not the opposite.

Soon enough, activity skyrocketed as the roleplay mentors, a group of veteran posters whose job is to help newer members learn the ropes of the roleplay forums, issued an unprecedented declaration jointly denouncing the proposal, deploring the situation as an "abuse of [the forum moderator] position" and declaring that the status of regional passwords "must remain unchanged for the good of the site". The statement garnered much support from NS players, not so much from NS raiders. Following the posting of this open letter, a word of mouth campaign through the IRC channels of many roleplaying regions combined with the publicity generated by the thread the letter was published on led to an immediate wave of severe backlash against the proposal and its author. A large amount of players have stated that if this proposal were to pass, they would mobilize a WA nation to defend Haven.

As supporters of Mallorea and Riva continued to defend his proposal against hiking criticism, a movement demanding his resignation for "misrepresenting facts" and "trolling roleplay regions" soon appeared, and rapidly gained traction. However, moderation subsequently locked the report regarding his comportment and declined to remove him, citing [violet], further fueling anger within the roleplaying community.

The proposal is not expected to pass a vote. Others have questioned whether it would even successfully reach quorum.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:35 am

Purely as an observer of events in SC and then in Moderation, I think this one is going to run and run even if it does not reach quorum.

Going to need more popcorn.
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Postby Letoilenoir » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:15 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Purely as an observer of events in SC and then in Moderation, I think this one is going to run and run even if it does not reach quorum.

Going to need more popcorn.


Nice Catch 22 though

RP's hold that the password should remain in place to avoid their adherents being forced into GP, but to oppose it effectively would have to participate in GP via the SC - sweet!
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Postby Elke and Elba » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:56 am

Letoilenoir wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Purely as an observer of events in SC and then in Moderation, I think this one is going to run and run even if it does not reach quorum.

Going to need more popcorn.


Nice Catch 22 though

RP's hold that the password should remain in place to avoid their adherents being forced into GP, but to oppose it effectively would have to participate in GP via the SC - sweet!


SC is a roleplaying forum after all.

It is ironic instead that GP has to use a RP tool to try to get what they want.
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Postby Letoilenoir » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:01 am

Elke and Elba wrote:It is ironic instead that GP has to use a RP tool to try to get what they want.


The SC may be RP for Condemnations & Commendations, but Liberations have real GP consequences - if this was not the case then the RPers would not be perturbed at all about the proposal
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:49 am

Elke and Elba wrote:
Letoilenoir wrote:
Nice Catch 22 though

RP's hold that the password should remain in place to avoid their adherents being forced into GP, but to oppose it effectively would have to participate in GP via the SC - sweet!


SC is a roleplaying forum after all.

It is ironic instead that GP has to use a RP tool to try to get what they want.


I was going to take a week off to cool down...but this is so BS I have to speak out against it

Do you have ANYTHING at all to back up that argument? index/World Assembly/Security Council is in no way a roleplay forum,GA can be argued on some level to be roleplay (as many do roleplay there)

The only RP forums are:
Factbooks and National Information (IC)
NationStates (IC)
International Incidents (IC)
Global Economics and Trade (IC)
NS Sports (IC)
General Assembly (by GA standards and conventions)
Portal to the Multiverse (description mentions RP)

So unless you can properly argue SC subforums are roleplay and/or In Character.they are neutral forums like F7 or GP forums
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Postby Funkadelia » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:26 am

I don't think the fact that the SC is a gameplay related forum deducts from the absurdity of the proposal.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:40 am

Funkadelia wrote:I don't think the fact that the SC is a gameplay related forum deducts from the absurdity of the proposal.


I don't think it's an absurd proposal, I think Mall wrote it quite well from his raider perspective. But it does, as Cormac Stark stated, weaponise the SC. And I'm against that.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:10 pm

Please keep your double standard out of the GP forums

Thank you

Sincerely
-everyone not holding an double standard



And I wasn't commenting on the proposal itself,I find it quite absurd mall the mod is under attack for actions as mall the player


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And oh,if you're objecting to the SC being weaponized,you're a bit late to the party
Does DNNs (defenders,neutrals,natives) using the SC against any occupation ring any bells?
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:19 pm

Oh I agree with your comments about Mall. The one thing I find completely ridiculous about this whole affair is the inability of some players to make that separation.
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Postby Elke and Elba » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:21 pm

Blood Wine wrote:Please keep your double standard out of the GP forums

Thank you

Sincerely
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And I wasn't commenting on the proposal itself,I find it quite absurd mall the mod is under attack for actions as mall the player


edit:
And oh,if you're objecting to the SC being weaponized,you're a bit late to the party
Does DNNs (defenders,neutrals,natives) using the SC against any occupation ring any bells?


Did you actually realise no one is replying to you, and by extension, not taking you seriously at all?
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:23 pm

Ah,sorry I didn't fully properly read your comment - I assumed you were in favor of the RP community because you didn't know the SC had been weaponized a long time ago


Elke and Elba wrote:Did you actually realise no one is replying to you, and by extension, not taking you seriously at all?


Yes comrade Elke,RP and GP are equal

...RP is just more equal!
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Postby Elke and Elba » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:25 pm

Blood Wine wrote:Ah,sorry I didn't fully properly read your comment - I assumed you were in favor of the RP community because you didn't know the SC had been weaponized a long time ago


Elke and Elba wrote:Did you actually realise no one is replying to you, and by extension, not taking you seriously at all?


Yes comrade Elke,RP and GP are equal

...RP is just more equal!


Animal Farm?

Oooh, I like it. It's the part when the community actually is on its way to eventual death. Very telling of what happens to NS if RP > GP.
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Postby Funkadelia » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:36 pm

Blood Wine wrote:Yes comrade Elke,RP and GP are equal

...RP is just more equal!

What are you even trying to say?
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:09 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:Yes comrade Elke,RP and GP are equal

...RP is just more equal!

What are you even trying to say?


That the RP community holds a gigantic double standard by saying it's equal to GP but at the same time feels superior to it
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:20 pm

Blood Wine wrote:That the RP community holds a gigantic double standard by saying it's equal to GP but at the same time feels superior to it

As someone who doesn't roleplay, RP is quite clearly superior to GP. The former requires imagination and, across a written medium, writing ability/talent. For most people, the latter requires clicking buttons when told to do so, while a select few may have a few additional skills (read: basic math) that enable them to tell everyone else when to click those buttons.

Additionally, an RPer can't script his way to success where, on the other hand, GP is increasingly a scripting game for those too lazy to do the basic math to find out when to click buttons.

Regardless, this really has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Whether GPers and RPers are equal, RPers are superior, or GPers are superior, weaponization of the Security Council to remove the passwords that GPers have repeatedly told RPers to use when they request an "opt-out" is wrong. RPers who are using one of the two forms of "opt-out" provided by the game should be left alone, not pestered by a WA moderator Completely Ordinary Player™.
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Postby Nierr » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:40 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
Elke and Elba wrote:
SC is a roleplaying forum after all.

It is ironic instead that GP has to use a RP tool to try to get what they want.


I was going to take a week off to cool down...but this is so BS I have to speak out against it

Do you have ANYTHING at all to back up that argument? index/World Assembly/Security Council is in no way a roleplay forum,GA can be argued on some level to be roleplay (as many do roleplay there)

The only RP forums are:
Factbooks and National Information (IC)
NationStates (IC)
International Incidents (IC)
Global Economics and Trade (IC)
NS Sports (IC)
General Assembly (by GA standards and conventions)
Portal to the Multiverse (description mentions RP)

So unless you can properly argue SC subforums are roleplay and/or In Character.they are neutral forums like F7 or GP forums

The WA has always been RP and GP. Always.

There's even rules that mean Condemn and Commends have to make sense in an IC way.
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Postby Nierr » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:41 pm

Blood Wine wrote:And oh,if you're objecting to the SC being weaponized,you're a bit late to the party
Does DNNs (defenders,neutrals,natives) using the SC against any occupation ring any bells?

You mean using Liberations as intended?

That's not weapnising the SC.

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