English Flag Hoodie Looks Like Ku Klux Klan Outfit

[Alcmaria]

Again, it's not a problem when an individual does it, although I swear that I'll never buy a Volkswagen exactly because of the Holocaust. Call it idiotic, I have my principles.

Will you ever buy tobacco or sugar then? Tobacco and sugar were the primary products produced by the slave trade. I'm not saying your principles are idiotic here, I'm saying you're a hypocrite.

I'll never buy tobacco, but for other reasons. I just realised that I've never bought sugar in a normal store, just once I bought fair trade sugar on a discount. But that's just because I don't use sugar (when I'll use it in the future, I'll buy 'normal' sugar, as fair trade stuff is too hard to find). It's easier to boycot a car brand than raw materials. Of course there's sugar in products I consume, and slaves were used for building the stadiums of the World Cups that I'll see, and the people that manufactured my shoes were too young to work and underpaid, and I could go on. It may be inconsistent, but I think hypocrite is a bit too much.

[Katganistan]

Again, it's not a problem when an individual does it, although I swear that I'll never buy a Volkswagen exactly because of the Holocaust. Call it idiotic, I have my principles.

You won't buy a certain brand of car because of something that happened in World War 2? I have never heard anything so moronic in my life.

Free choice is a wonderful thing. However, holding the people who run the company now responsible for the crimes of the government of their grandfathers and fathers seems a bit silly to me.

[Alcmaria]

You won't buy a certain brand of car because of something that happened in World War 2? I have never heard anything so moronic in my life.

It's not that I feel good about it, but it would make me feel bad if I did it. Actually there are some more German companies that I boycot for that reason.

[Eoghania]

Simplest fix would be the red upright continuing onto the hood...

[Imperializt Russia]

You won't buy a certain brand of car because of something that happened in World War 2? I have never heard anything so moronic in my life.

It's not that I feel good about it, but it would make me feel bad if I did it. Actually there are some more German companies that I boycot for that reason.

Do you boycott western companies that, in past lives, also produced war materiel?

[Alcmaria]

You won't buy a certain brand of car because of something that happened in World War 2? I have never heard anything so moronic in my life.

Free choice is a wonderful thing. However, holding the people who run the company now responsible for the crimes of the government of their grandfathers and fathers seems a bit silly to me.

I'm not blaming them (see previous post), although I personally wouldn't apply for a job for a company that used Jews as slaves during WWII. Not because I'd be 'supporting the Holocaust' as someone suggested, but because I don't want any association with it.

[Kradlandia]

Suck it up and get over it. If it's not the KKK outfit and not intended to look like the KKK outfit, then nothing is wrong.

[Imperializt Russia]

Free choice is a wonderful thing. However, holding the people who run the company now responsible for the crimes of the government of their grandfathers and fathers seems a bit silly to me.

I'm not blaming them (see previous post), although I personally wouldn't apply for a job for a company that used Jews as slaves during WWII. Not because I'd be 'supporting the Holocaust' as someone suggested, but because I don't want any association with it.

No, I was taking what I thought was a facetious parody of your position, then it turned out that actually was your position.
That were you to work for that company today or buy its products, that's somehow condoning the actions of people who mostly are no longer alive in a very past iteration of that company.

[Alcmaria]

Do you boycott western companies that, in past lives, also produced war materiel?

At least not intentionally, as I don't know which companies that were. When I see a German brand I might bother doing a Google search, but I won't do an extensive research in order to live with a blacklist.

[Chemaki]

It's easier to boycot a car brand than raw materials. Of course there's sugar in products I consume, and slaves were used for building the stadiums of the World Cups that I'll see, and the people that manufactured my shoes were too young to work and underpaid, and I could go on. It may be inconsistent, but I think hypocrite is a bit too much.

You don't boycott things because they're convenient to boycott. And yes, in many senses, you are a hypocrite; if you're against slave labour, you would boycott everything you know was made by slaves and wouldn't be going to the World Cup. If you're against the holocaust, you would not be typing on this computer, because IBM provided equipment to orchestrate Hitler's 'final solution' in WW2.

At least not intentionally, as I don't know which companies that were. When I see a German brand I might bother doing a Google search, but I won't do an extensive research in order to live with a blacklist.

So what you're saying is, you discriminate against Germans (or at least, their companies) for war crimes that were committed 70 years ago.

[Imperializt Russia]

The proprietor family of the Daily Mail, whose own article of faux rage is featured of the OP, famously ran articles such as "hurrah for the Blackshirts" and that "young men should study closely the success of this Nazi regime (and that one should not pay attention to these so called 'Nazi atrocities')".

[Molsonian Republics]

Im all for showing patriotism to your country, but the outfit should be changed so it doesn't look like a KKK outfit.

[Chemaki]

The proprietor family of the Daily Mail, whose own article of faux rage is featured of the OP, famously ran articles such as "hurrah for the Blackshirts" and that "young men should study closely the success of this Nazi regime (and that one should not pay attention to these so called 'Nazi atrocities')".

I thought it still ran articles like that.

[Imperializt Russia]

Im all for showing patriotism to your country, but the outfit should be changed so it doesn't look like a KKK outfit.

It doesn't.

Unless you're an idiot with nothing better to do than try and imply that it's supposed to, or that the not-even-marginal resemblance is in some way intentional.

[Imperializt Russia]

The proprietor family of the Daily Mail, whose own article of faux rage is featured of the OP, famously ran articles such as "hurrah for the Blackshirts" and that "young men should study closely the success of this Nazi regime (and that one should not pay attention to these so called 'Nazi atrocities')".

I thought it still ran articles like that.

No, Middle England is no longer infatuated by eugenics and Nazism.
Just racism.

[Katganistan]

Im all for showing patriotism to your country, but the outfit should be changed so it doesn't look like a KKK outfit.

It doesn't, in the UK. Which is where it is sold. For an entirely different purpose than to flex one's idiot muscles over their supposed superiority to brown people.

Imagine the uproar if people were told to stop wearing American flag apparel because other countries find it insensitive--- oh, wait....

Seriously. Tempest in a teapot. Can we talk about actual problems now?

[Chemaki]

No, Middle England is no longer infatuated by eugenics and Nazism.
Just racism.

See, in Devar'n'shirr' we're not racist, just intolerant. As far as we're concerned, the rest of Britain is a mix of the Brixton riots, neo-Nazis and a shocking shortage of cream teas.

[Wind in the Willows]

Im all for showing patriotism to your country, but the outfit should be changed so it doesn't look like a KKK outfit.

It doesn't. The KKK weren't active in the UK, and it only offends you yanks.

[Chemaki]

Im all for showing patriotism to your country, but the outfit should be changed so it doesn't look like a KKK outfit.

It doesn't. The KKK weren't active in the UK, and it only offends you yanks.

Can we make it a criminal offense for yanks to call us silly things like "Limeys", since you know, that's what they called our brave soldiers 200 years ago before brutally slaughtering them in battle? I'm sure someone in the UK finds the term "Limey" offensive.

[Alcmaria]

You don't boycott things because they're convenient to boycott. And yes, in many senses, you are a hypocrite; if you're against slave labour, you would boycott everything you know was made by slaves and wouldn't be going to the World Cup. If you're against the holocaust, you would not be typing on this computer, because IBM provided equipment to orchestrate Hitler's 'final solution' in WW2.
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So what you're saying is, you discriminate against Germans (or at least, their companies) for war crimes that were committed 70 years ago.

If I'm typing on this computer I'm not against the Holocaust? That's stupid. If I find it inconvenient to boycott some companies and not others, then so be it. If you think it's not called boycotting in that case, let me rephrase: I don't buy the products of the company because it's easy enough to find a more innocent alternative. For me the reason is irrelevant for whether it be a boycott or not, but I just used the word because it's shorter than a phrase anyway.
I don't like Germans, for war crimes and more recent, personal encounters, how they've gotten away with things and their 'superior' behavior when they are in other countries, generally speaking of course, because I do have German friends (who know how I think about this) (is that hypocrite too?). As a consequence, I tend not to avoid some of their infected brands.

[Katganistan]

Im all for showing patriotism to your country, but the outfit should be changed so it doesn't look like a KKK outfit.

It doesn't. The KKK weren't active in the UK, and it only offends you yanks.

Correction: it offends the corresponding population in the US as would be frothing at the mouth at anything the Daily Mail asserts there.

[Katganistan]

It doesn't. The KKK weren't active in the UK, and it only offends you yanks.

Can we make it a criminal offense for yanks to call us silly things like "Limeys", since you know, that's what they called our brave soldiers 200 years ago before brutally slaughtering them in battle? I'm sure someone in the UK finds the term "Limey" offensive.

Ironic coming from someone blithely using the term Yank.

[Avaerilon]

Erm, this is really just a cheap rain poncho that might be a little pointed in the hood. I hardly think people in the UK would consider it to be grossly similar to the KKK outfit, given our racists usually just wear hoodies, football shirts and shell-suits.

[Chemaki]

Ironic coming from someone blithely using the term Yank.

Ah, but we didn't call Americans Yanks. They called each other Yanks as an insult during the civil war, so there's no sinister undertone when we use that insult.

As for Limey, it's directly offensive to our great British culture, and I think the entire world needs to know this and realize that calling someone British a Limey is actually supporting killing all British people, since the Americans used to call us Limeys when they were fighting us.

In fact, I think America should ban Limes altogether seeing as how offended someone in the UK could be by this, just as how white ponchos in the UK should be banned for offending Americans who were the host of a religious cult a century ago.

[Imperializt Russia]

You don't boycott things because they're convenient to boycott. And yes, in many senses, you are a hypocrite; if you're against slave labour, you would boycott everything you know was made by slaves and wouldn't be going to the World Cup. If you're against the holocaust, you would not be typing on this computer, because IBM provided equipment to orchestrate Hitler's 'final solution' in WW2.
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So what you're saying is, you discriminate against Germans (or at least, their companies) for war crimes that were committed 70 years ago.

If I'm typing on this computer I'm not against the Holocaust? That's stupid. If I find it inconvenient to boycott some companies and not others, then so be it. If you think it's not called boycotting in that case, let me rephrase: I don't buy the products of the company because it's easy enough to find a more innocent alternative. For me the reason is irrelevant for whether it be a boycott or not, but I just used the word because it's shorter than a phrase anyway.
I don't like Germans, for war crimes and more recent, personal encounters, how they've gotten away with things and their 'superior' behavior when they are in other countries, generally speaking of course, because I do have German friends (who know how I think about this) (is that hypocrite too?). As a consequence, I tend not to avoid some of their infected brands.

How they've gotten away with what? All the senior Nazis bar a handful were found guilty and executed, their actions led to the creation of human rights as we now know them and their women were raped by the million by the Soviets.
Their country was occupied for various reasons for almost the remainder of the century after the War and entire cities had been razed to the ground.

They got away with nothing.