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Postby Minnas » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:28 pm

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:33 pm

Here's the thing: The Nazis lost. They were losers. Really awful losers. They only really had power for a little over a decade and only existed for a little over two and a half. Compared to other losers throughout history, they were super-losers.

If you're gonna dress up as a historical loser, at least dress up as someone who actually won for a few centuries. I recommend Romans or Vikings.
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Re: How do you feel towards certain "hobby nazis"

Postby Minnas » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:33 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Here's the thing: The Nazis lost. They were losers. Really awful losers. They only really had power for a little over a decade and only existed for a little over two and a half. Compared to other losers throughout history, they were super-losers.

If you're gonna dress up as a historical loser, at least dress up as someone who actually won for a few centuries. I recommend Romans or Vikings.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:36 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:If you're gonna dress up as a historical loser, at least dress up as someone who actually won for a few centuries. I recommend Romans or Vikings.

If you dress up as a Roman Legionnaire after Marius' reforms, but before the use of mercenaries, you're dressing up as a historical winner. :p
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Re: How do you feel towards certain "hobby nazis"

Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:37 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Here's the thing: The Nazis lost. They were losers. Really awful losers. They only really had power for a little over a decade and only existed for a little over two and a half. Compared to other losers throughout history, they were super-losers.

If you're gonna dress up as a historical loser, at least dress up as someone who actually won for a few centuries. I recommend Romans or Vikings.

But the sex is kinkier dressed as a nazi.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:43 pm

While I don't listen to WP music, I do think the SS uniforms are straight badass. I personally don't dress like them or anything, but I have been looking into getting replica uniforms, they're just so damn expensive. ($200 for a blouse D:)
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Postby Derscon » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:50 pm

And yet no one complains about people dressing up as pirates who, for their time, were nasty butchers. The amount of emotional nazi-hating I see...well, I can't help but find it a little bit hypocritical to get all bent out of shape for making a joke or collecting a few bits of memorabilia. The Nazis weren't the only butchers in history, and yet they're really the only guys that are demonized to the level they are.
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Postby Baycosa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:10 am

L3 Communications wrote:While I don't listen to WP music, I do think the SS uniforms are straight badass. I personally don't dress like them or anything, but I have been looking into getting replica uniforms, they're just so damn expensive. ($200 for a blouse D:)


They are expensive and i'm still looking for a fitting hat and better jackboots. My aim is also to get a full Desert Korps uniform, preferbly an officer one like Rommels.
Also when it comes to WP music i'll have to say that some is just outright awful.
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Re: How do you feel towards certain "hobby nazis"

Postby Risottia » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:32 am

Baycosa wrote:Well I think acting as a commie is offensive to those who suffered te atrocities of the Sovietunion (wich death toll are far more then nazi-germanys)

Quite debatable, as the main source for that idea (The Black Book of Communism, iirc) counts the Soviet losses in WW2 as "victims of communism".
Anyway I don't "act" as a commie.

, get real it is just listening to angry music, wearing a outfit I like and offend people for the sake of it, if they ask me to stop when they are around I stop becasue i'm not a whiny prick. It is offensive also to eat pork as there are muslims in the area, should I stop that as well?

1.It's NOT offensive to eat pork if muslims are nearby. I never heard a muslim complaining about me strolling nearby with a ham sandwich.
2.If you like to offend people for the sake of it, your business. Of course, don't be surprised if people consider you rude.

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Quite not.
1.Being socialist isn't politically correct. At least not in Europe, where the majority is centre-right.
2.I'm not socialist. Socialists are way too centrist.

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Re: How do you feel towards certain "hobby nazis"

Postby Pepe Dominguez » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:47 am

When would you even use a replica Nazi uniform? I know you don't all live in Chicago... :p

Anyway, the hobby, if it's only a hobby or an ironic thing or whatever, doesn't bother me. Strange, but that's their business.

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Postby Poliwanacraca » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:06 am

I feel sorry for them. If someone is still so colossally immature that they think the height of wit is seeing how much they can offend people, it's just...sad. Luckily, most people grow out of being teenage boys eventually.
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Postby Baycosa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:06 am

Quite debatable, as the main source for that idea (The Black Book of Communism, iirc) counts the Soviet losses in WW2 as "victims of communism".
Anyway I don't "act" as a commie.


1.It's NOT offensive to eat pork if muslims are nearby. I never heard a muslim complaining about me strolling nearby with a ham sandwich.
2.If you like to offend people for the sake of it, your business. Of course, don't be surprised if people consider you rude.


Quite not.
1.Being socialist isn't politically correct. At least not in Europe, where the majority is centre-right.
2.I'm not socialist. Socialists are way too centrist.

Funny, coming from someone sporting a Moldavian flag. :roll:


Oh please, the Soviet policies are responsible of outrageous crimes such as the "Holodomor" (wich have been recognized by the Ukrainians, European Parliment and several states of the UN as an act of genocide and a crime aginst humanity) the "Dekulakization", the Katyn massacre, mass-deportations and prosecutions of politcal enemies and several minorities and the "victims" dying on the battlefield in WW2 are just a small protion of communist crimes.

But what if they do find it offensive? Should you just obey and stop because it is offensive?

If you think socialists are too "center" for you, then i'll just rate you as a bafoon, like those who deny the holocaust.
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Re: How do you feel towards certain "hobby nazis"

Postby Baycosa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:08 am

Poliwanacraca wrote:I feel sorry for them. If someone is still so colossally immature that they think the height of wit is seeing how much they can offend people, it's just...sad. Luckily, most people grow out of being teenage boys eventually.


Depends on the situation, I might not want to offend my boss, but I might like to offend leftists.
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Current goverment: Military Junta Former goverment: Executed
President of Baycosa, Field Marshal of the Commonwealth: Farhad M. Polh
Currently in a state of War aginst the Socialist Republic of Osea - The Osea War
Details:
- Operation Sunrise "The confrontation at Podgrad"
- 70 Soldiers "Baycosan Recon Forces", 3 Cobra gunships, 3 Transport choppers - Unkown numbers of local communist Milita and Regulars

Est. casualties inflicted:
51 confirmed kills / 70+ Est.
1 Mi-26
Civilian casualties and damage to civilian structure.

Confirmed Losses:
19 Baycosan recon soldiers KIA/MIA
2 Baycosan pilots MIA
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Postby Scarsaw » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:08 am

Baycosa wrote:They are expensive and i'm still looking for a fitting hat and better jackboots. My aim is also to get a full Desert Korps uniform, preferbly an officer one like Rommels.
Also when it comes to WP music i'll have to say that some is just outright awful.


Most WP songs are awful, as they are often high pitched screaming death metal. There's a few songs I don't mind, but they are the rare few.
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Postby Baycosa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:10 am

Scarsaw wrote:
Baycosa wrote:They are expensive and i'm still looking for a fitting hat and better jackboots. My aim is also to get a full Desert Korps uniform, preferbly an officer one like Rommels.
Also when it comes to WP music i'll have to say that some is just outright awful.


Most WP songs are awful, as they are often high pitched screaming death metal. There's a few songs I don't mind, but they are the rare few.


I know those, they truly suck but those who keep a more old school punk attitude I'm the most interested in.
The Commonwealth of Baycosa
Current goverment: Military Junta Former goverment: Executed
President of Baycosa, Field Marshal of the Commonwealth: Farhad M. Polh
Currently in a state of War aginst the Socialist Republic of Osea - The Osea War
Details:
- Operation Sunrise "The confrontation at Podgrad"
- 70 Soldiers "Baycosan Recon Forces", 3 Cobra gunships, 3 Transport choppers - Unkown numbers of local communist Milita and Regulars

Est. casualties inflicted:
51 confirmed kills / 70+ Est.
1 Mi-26
Civilian casualties and damage to civilian structure.

Confirmed Losses:
19 Baycosan recon soldiers KIA/MIA
2 Baycosan pilots MIA
1 Cobra guship


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Re: How do you feel towards certain "hobby nazis"

Postby The Pan-Soviet Union » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:33 am

Baycosa wrote:
I belive there is always a little nazi within all of us, the part of us who fantizises about taking over the world and get rid of the people you don't like.



mmmm...no, actually.




Baycosa wrote: I think I know wich people you would have deemed "unwanted" if you got the power.



You mean putting all fascists and Nazis in concentration camps or having inhumane experimentations done on them, or euthanised or gassed and shot like a Nazi would?


No. That's why I'm not a Nazi or fascist.


I believe in letting Nazis and fascists having their say as part of freedom of speech. Partly because I believe that they fall down on their face and lose all credibility by the things they stand for and say.



Baycosa wrote:And to be frank, the guy you knew is an obvious head case, I have tons of WW2 junk but not all German (looking for an "order of lenin" as a matter of fact) and to honour the vets of that war be axis or allied, if you did not work in a concentration camp or were in the death squads I belvie they should be entitled the honour they deserve as all fought for their countries.




German soldiers, yes.


Nazis, and their crimes? No. That's not to be honoured. It's not deserving. It's depraved and an insult to their victims.

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Postby The Pan-Soviet Union » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:36 am

Poliwanacraca wrote:I feel sorry for them. If someone is still so colossally immature that they think the height of wit is seeing how much they can offend people, it's just...sad. Luckily, most people grow out of being teenage boys eventually.



Agreed. Sad is indeed the word.

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Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:39 am

Why should I have any more respect for "hobby" Nazis than I would for either real Nazis or "hobby" serial killers?
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Postby Baycosa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:05 am

The Cat-Tribe wrote:Why should I have any more respect for "hobby" Nazis than I would for either real Nazis or "hobby" serial killers?


Maybe because I do not endorse, practice nor advocate murder nor denying it (unlike some commies).
The Commonwealth of Baycosa
Current goverment: Military Junta Former goverment: Executed
President of Baycosa, Field Marshal of the Commonwealth: Farhad M. Polh
Currently in a state of War aginst the Socialist Republic of Osea - The Osea War
Details:
- Operation Sunrise "The confrontation at Podgrad"
- 70 Soldiers "Baycosan Recon Forces", 3 Cobra gunships, 3 Transport choppers - Unkown numbers of local communist Milita and Regulars

Est. casualties inflicted:
51 confirmed kills / 70+ Est.
1 Mi-26
Civilian casualties and damage to civilian structure.

Confirmed Losses:
19 Baycosan recon soldiers KIA/MIA
2 Baycosan pilots MIA
1 Cobra guship


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Postby Baycosa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:09 am

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The crimes I do not advocate, but I will not scorn the style just because it was made up by a buch of bafoons. It's just cloth and music, not a second holocaust.
The Commonwealth of Baycosa
Current goverment: Military Junta Former goverment: Executed
President of Baycosa, Field Marshal of the Commonwealth: Farhad M. Polh
Currently in a state of War aginst the Socialist Republic of Osea - The Osea War
Details:
- Operation Sunrise "The confrontation at Podgrad"
- 70 Soldiers "Baycosan Recon Forces", 3 Cobra gunships, 3 Transport choppers - Unkown numbers of local communist Milita and Regulars

Est. casualties inflicted:
51 confirmed kills / 70+ Est.
1 Mi-26
Civilian casualties and damage to civilian structure.

Confirmed Losses:
19 Baycosan recon soldiers KIA/MIA
2 Baycosan pilots MIA
1 Cobra guship


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Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:15 am

No one should be hated for any reason, no matter how intolerant and pathetic they are. :palm:
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:17 am

i really don't believe not-sees, hobby or otherwise, would be at all missed, were they to not ever have existed. i don't mean that as an expression of intolerance, but one of honest observation.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:29 am

Hobby-Nazis? Depends if you mean a historian/wannabe-general doing WW2 Reenactments, or people who are only racist on weekends and Wednesdays.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:16 am

The Cat-Tribe wrote:Why should I have any more respect for "hobby" Nazis than I would for either real Nazis or "hobby" serial killers?

Being a hobby serial killer is fun. Ran though the golf course hitting everyone with a paint ball gun.
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Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:20 am

Baycosa wrote:
The Cat-Tribe wrote:Why should I have any more respect for "hobby" Nazis than I would for either real Nazis or "hobby" serial killers?


Maybe because I do not endorse, practice nor advocate murder nor denying it (unlike some commies).


Fair point. Although pretending to endorce and advocate murder is still wrong.
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