by DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:58 am
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:01 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
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by Alfegos » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:01 pm
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by Britinthia » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:22 pm
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:41 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:03 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Britinthia » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:42 am
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:35 am
Britinthia wrote:The problem with using heavy gloves when patting someone down is that you have more material between you and the suspect, increasing the chances you will miss something. That said, for everything else they make life so much easier and absolutely should be standard issue.
Secondly why would your Police possibly need sap gloves? Unless you have a particularly high rate of violent crime then your average criminal doesnt warrant being knocked about by what I can only assume are two burly coppers with hard knuckles.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:42 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Themiclesia » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:56 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Let's discuss equipment - what do you equip your officers with?
Standard equipment includes a handgun, taser, pepper spray and telescopic baton.
Typical patrol cars have a rifle AND shotgun in between the front seats.
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by Britinthia » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:21 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Let's discuss equipment - what do you equip your officers with?
Standard equipment includes a handgun, taser, pepper spray and telescopic baton.
Typical patrol cars have a rifle AND shotgun in between the front seats.
by Connagh » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:39 pm
Alfegos wrote:Also, whilst we're on non-military realism...
Magnetic levitation trains as a viable alternative to conventional high speed rail - discuss. I was looking at a trunk link covering long distances between the largest cities, with branches to international airports and a couple select cities.
And, what would having such a network entail for existing heavy rail networks across the country?
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:48 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Britinthia » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:12 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Good to see this kicking off. Keep at it people.
Really, my police officers also carry knives, and I was reticent in revealing this because people be all like "police brutality!!!111" and stuff, but in fact, it is more of a traditional IC thing, and they're only to be used for extreme situations, such as when an officer has been disarmed by a perp, or for utility purposes.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:09 pm
Britinthia wrote:DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Good to see this kicking off. Keep at it people.
Really, my police officers also carry knives, and I was reticent in revealing this because people be all like "police brutality!!!111" and stuff, but in fact, it is more of a traditional IC thing, and they're only to be used for extreme situations, such as when an officer has been disarmed by a perp, or for utility purposes.
Like a swiss army knife or folding knife, or more of a fixed blade?
I think those squared off seatbelt cutters would be handy, hadnt thought of it until you mentioned knives though.
Personally I wouldnt suggest knifes = brutality. If you already have firearms in your cars then a knife doesnt seem 'worse'. Id not issue knifes at all. But then my Police force is very different to yours.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Alfegos » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:29 am
Connagh wrote:
I've considered this also. On a past nation (PMT) the transport system was virtually all MagLev and PRTs. It was viable then as in the near future we imagine that the production, maintenance and other associated costs would go down.
I'm not sure either if MagLev trains have any considerable deficiencies in terms of weight capabilities. Would they be able to carry the same load as conventional (freight) trains?
Ideally for my current nation I'd like MagLev trains to be the main mode of transport across the country, behind the personal car, but I'm unsure if that's realistically possible in terms of money and practicality.
Britinthia wrote:The problem with using heavy gloves when patting someone down is that you have more material between you and the suspect, increasing the chances you will miss something. That said, for everything else they make life so much easier and absolutely should be standard issue.
Secondly why would your Police possibly need sap gloves? Unless you have a particularly high rate of violent crime then your average criminal doesnt warrant being knocked about by what I can only assume are two burly coppers with hard knuckles.
by Astholm » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:25 am
by Alfegos » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:06 am
Astholm wrote:OK, to keep the realism going, is this sort of thing realistic - being a series of nations as one sovereign state, like the United Kingdom is (Astholm is partially and partially not based on the United Kingdom, politically but may be not geographically, although the iconic UK shape is used for the main islands with England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Also, there are many exclaves of the nation that are enclaved within other regions, but politically part of Astholm.
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Also, in terms of setting/geography, with regards to streets and city layout, is it normal to still have streetlighting that's 20-30 years old alongside modern-day ones, e.g. as here:
by Astholm » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:12 am
Alfegos wrote:
1> Yes. It's called federalism, if you want to put a name on it. Go for it.
2> Streetlights... again, probably not normal. If you want another name for it, it's called laziness (i.e. not getting rid of the old one).
by Kouralia » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:24 am
by Alfegos » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:36 am
Astholm wrote:Alfegos wrote:
1> Yes. It's called federalism, if you want to put a name on it. Go for it.
2> Streetlights... again, probably not normal. If you want another name for it, it's called laziness (i.e. not getting rid of the old one).
With regard to 1) I understand that.
However, due to the ethnic mix of my nation, with English, Irish, Scottish, Slavic peoples, Scandinavians, Walloons, Dutch, Flemish, French,
German, along with Indian ethnic groups and some Black people, how could this work as a sort of empire and what sort of culture clashes etc. could I expect that would make for a good RP regarding things like government etc. ?
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:30 pm
Alfegos wrote:Rate my equipment choice if you would.
POLICE
> Uniform, Police (Dark Blue) - Trousers, Shirt/UBACS
> Side Hat, Dark Blue - Worn on patrol and other duties. Substituted for a helmet where necessary.
> Armour, "Guardian" - Level II body armour, with stab proof fabric and MOLLE loops
> Boots - From the military issue series - Normally Tier I Patrol OR Tier I Driver
> Gloves, Combat - Protective
> Identity Tabs - Mounted on shoulders and back, Give officer's number, rank, and specialism (if applicable). IRR Dye used to maximise visibility on cameras
> Identity Tapes - On armour (back and front) and sleeve tops, stating "POLICE" and the force's Insignia
> Radio, UHF - Multi channel secure UHF, from a civilian supplier (normally civilianised versions of military equipment). Comes with optional headset.
> Notebook, Waterproof + 3x Pens
> Handcuffs
> Plasticuffs x 3 (For multiple detainments/failure of handcuffs)
> Search Kit (Contains 8x Nitrile glove pairs, 6x Evidence bags, Tags for evidence, and 2x Permanent makers)
> Medical Kit (CMS-1AV and CMS- 1CIII, with civilianised components)
> Baton, Extendable - For assisting with arrest/self defence
> Spray, Yellow #6A - For assisting with arrest. A spray containing capsaicin, and a unique UV marker allowing trace of use to a particular officer/tracking of escaped detainees
> Emergency Tool - Combination window punch and seatbelt cutter.
> Utility tool - Multi-tool (of the type made by Gerber) for general purpose activities.
Officers will also be issued with optional items, dependent on conditions and training:
> Warm Kit (Thermals, and a Heavyweight Jacket - High Visibility)
> Wet Kit (Lightweight Poncho - High Visibility)
> Tablet, Electronic - Where necessary, in non-routine situations (e.g. ANPR interception, ISTAR)
> TASERNET Shock Gun, Level I (Stun) or Level II (Incapacitate) - After firearms training to the First and Second Level
> EK-2 Pistol, 9mm - After firearms training to the Second level (supervised) and Third Level (Unsupervised)
=========================Connagh wrote:
I've considered this also. On a past nation (PMT) the transport system was virtually all MagLev and PRTs. It was viable then as in the near future we imagine that the production, maintenance and other associated costs would go down.
I'm not sure either if MagLev trains have any considerable deficiencies in terms of weight capabilities. Would they be able to carry the same load as conventional (freight) trains?
Ideally for my current nation I'd like MagLev trains to be the main mode of transport across the country, behind the personal car, but I'm unsure if that's realistically possible in terms of money and practicality.
I did some looking at the train technology, and with my nation made the assumption that investment began in the 80s, and construction began realistically in the mid 90s onwards, with upgrades during construction.
From the looks of things, the only real issue comes from the initial investments in the new technology, and incompatibility with existing systems, at the present time. Otherwise, you get better values with costs as:
> The trains can go up steeper gradients, reducing the need for tunneling in rural areas.
> Maintenance costs are far, far lower - the track wear is environmental only, and the train wear is confined to the electronics (no moving parts). This more than outweighs any wear to the pantograph and overhead lines.
> At high speed, the power consumption is much lower that conventional trains. At lower speeds, this becomes the inverse, so one has to take care with looking at the distances of each stretch.
> You can near fully automate the system, reducing running costs from the signals and staff. Just have to be aware of computer systems failures.
> Seemingly, the system is safer, and can safely brake and descend in the event of a power failure.
With regards to lines, in my system, the lines run alongside the express road routes, in hope of reducing costs, better access, and dealing with the eyesore nature of the system at times. There would be cuttings and tunnels around populated areas, to reduce issues of space and noise, though I'd assume that one would have to consider better ventilation and airflow schemes to prevent massive issues with suction and wind in the tunnels. The lines themselves would be the metal rail mounted onto concrete, with signal wires placed alongside to DETECT and to SIGNAL the train.
The trains themselves would likely be quite large. For freight, the trains would be very limited - something like 40 tonnes per carriage - so one would likely want to use such trains for postal/courier delivery at low times, and leave the containerised/very heavy goods to the conventional heavy rail. That, and I'm assuming that having lower weights for freight on one of these trains would lead to longer life of the magnets.
===Britinthia wrote:The problem with using heavy gloves when patting someone down is that you have more material between you and the suspect, increasing the chances you will miss something. That said, for everything else they make life so much easier and absolutely should be standard issue.
Secondly why would your Police possibly need sap gloves? Unless you have a particularly high rate of violent crime then your average criminal doesnt warrant being knocked about by what I can only assume are two burly coppers with hard knuckles.
When you pat someone down, normally you take your combat gloves off and put the rubber/latex/nitrile thin gloves on. They're cleaner, for a start, and are better at protecting both the person from your germs, and you from the person's germs/blood/etc. As for Sap gloves, the pair I had was brilliant for more strenous activity in the urban environment, but for your beat copper aren't really necessary.
doesn't make a lot of sense. Training a police officer in using a firearm does not suffice if you want him to use a Taser. So really, you should either have separate training if you have separate policemen, a kind armed with Tasers and the other armed with firearms - or to integrate not only firearms but also Taser training if all who receive said training can use both.After firearms training to the First and Second Level
It's a rule originating from research by Salt Lake City trainer, Dennis Tueller "rule" states that in the time it takes the average officer to recognize a threat, draw his sidearm and fire 2 rounds at center mass, an average subject charging at the officer with a knife or other cutting or stabbing weapon can cover a distance of 21 feet.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Kouralia » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:21 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:EDIT: Otherwise, if I were a cop I'd probably need to constantly carry something as ridiculous as a machete in order to have enough confidence to do my job. And that wouldn't be sufficient let alone ideal either.
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