Terra Firma, Planning and discussion

[Transnapastain]

@Vir

Your calling the PAK-FA the "Fallback" for your NATO reporting name.
No excuses unless yours is better

Su-50 Fuckyou.

[Spirit of Hope]

I decide its time to go to bed, wake up and find this madness.

I claim everything Korean, except the Daewoo K1 and K2 which Spreewerke laid claim to a while back if I remember. Since a bunch of it is connected to american/russian stuff I'm going with my normal cover story of some of the tech was landed to me, and I leased/paid for the rest.

I think I'll keep my hands on the Dassault Rafale for now. I'll TG notFrance and maybe we can make it a joint research project if he wants to.

[Spreewerke]

I decide its time to go to bed, wake up and find this madness.

I claim everything Korean, except the Daewoo K1 and K2 which Spreewerke laid claim to a while back if I remember. Since a bunch of it is connected to american/russian stuff I'm going with my normal cover story of some of the tech was landed to me, and I leased/paid for the rest.

I think I'll keep my hands on the Dassault Rafale for now. I'll TG notFrance and maybe we can make it a joint research project if he wants to.

You can into K1 and K2. I don't want to produce them, I just want to know who I'm buying them from in the inter-pact years when I implement some of their features into my AKs (vast majority of imported 'Woos will be for civilian use, however). I'll also be begging you for DPRs for the K5 handgun since I have plans to Spreeify it into 7.62x25mm.

[The Republic of Lanos]

So far I have the Leclerc tank, Swiss Arms AG/SIG (just not using all their guns except SIG SG 510, 550, and one of their machine guns), and whatever else that could fit me. Beyond that, I use Emmerian or other allied stuff.

[Transnapastain]

So far I have the Leclerc tank

Wrong....and we've been over this.

You have a tank like the Leclerc....possibly even based on the Leclerc. You do not have the Leclerc.

[Premislyd]

Prem has some either Argentine stuff but I can't recall what exactly..

I have:

• NAVANTIA (Shipbuilding), now known as... NAVANTIA
• Astra (Firearms), now known as... ASTRA
• Fábrica Argentina de Aviones (Planes), now known as Fàbrica Uscana de Avions
• EN SB (part of the European Land Systems Group of General Dynamics), now known as Fàbrica Nacional de Sant Joan
• UROVESA (trucks), still known as UROVESA
• Santana Motor (moar trucks), now known as Fàbrica Nacional de Camions
• Esperanza y Cia (mortars), grouped under ASTRA

[San-Silvacian]

So far I have the Leclerc tank

Wrong....and we've been over this.

You have a tank like the Leclerc....possibly even based on the Leclerc. You do not have the Leclerc.

i want moar MiGs now.

Like, hella MiGs.

Maybe even have a small yet growing local military aircraft production that isn't 100% Puz run.

[Puzikas]

Wrong....and we've been over this.

You have a tank like the Leclerc....possibly even based on the Leclerc. You do not have the Leclerc.

i want moar MiGs now.

Like, hella MiGs.

Maybe even have a small yet growing local military aircraft production that isn't 100% Puz run.

Poland wants to go to the moon, but we all cant get what we want

[San-Silvacian]

i want moar MiGs now.

Like, hella MiGs.

Maybe even have a small yet growing local military aircraft production that isn't 100% Puz run.

Poland wants to go to the moon, but we all cant get what we want

Estovakian Aerospace Systems will be a thing!

[Puzikas]

@Vir

Your calling the PAK-FA the "Fallback" for your NATO reporting name.
No excuses unless yours is better

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie

Poland wants to go to the moon, but we all cant get what we want

Estovakian Aerospace Systems will be a thing!

Truthfully I have no issue with it. The issue is that the Balkan states...well they manufacture approximately nothing. So you are welcome to dream up an aircraft company, and I'll even help pay for it. As long as your production doesn't cross a certain point, your welcome to make MiGs under licence, and upgrade them here and there.

Hell, maybe you can wip Val into shape and make him buy your shit.

[Transnapastain]

@Vir

Your calling the PAK-FA the "Fallback" for your NATO reporting name.
No excuses unless yours is better

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie

Estovakian Aerospace Systems will be a thing!

Truthfully I have no issue with it. The issue is that the Balkan states...well they manufacture approximately nothing. So you are welcome to dream up an aircraft company, and I'll even help pay for it. As long as your production doesn't cross a certain point, your welcome to make MiGs under licence, and upgrade them here and there.

Hell, maybe you can wip Val into shape and make him buy your shit.

I've barely gotten him to buy CASAs stuff... And we're "eternal allies"

[Licana]

I've barely gotten him to buy CASAs stuff... And we're "eternal allies"

wat is dis we didnt even start pretending to like him until recently

[Puzikas]

Does anyone want to buy a bunch of military trucks and armored cars? I'm trying to get a bunch of figures out to who has what from my stuff that's not the PLU or KC.

If you want trucks or..whatever..just specify what and the type, and quantity.

[Transnapastain]

I've barely gotten him to buy CASAs stuff... And we're "eternal allies"

wat is dis we didnt even start pretending to like him until recently

dats y is in quotes.

[San-Silvacian]

@Vir

Your calling the PAK-FA the "Fallback" for your NATO reporting name.
No excuses unless yours is better

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie

Estovakian Aerospace Systems will be a thing!

Truthfully I have no issue with it. The issue is that the Balkan states...well they manufacture approximately nothing. So you are welcome to dream up an aircraft company, and I'll even help pay for it. As long as your production doesn't cross a certain point, your welcome to make MiGs under licence, and upgrade them here and there.

Hell, maybe you can wip Val into shape and make him buy your shit.

Emmeria here I come!

in all seriousness thats what I was going for, Esto already has a rapidity developing indigenous production for small arms and armored vehicles, there isn't much stopping it from at least churning out a dozen or so locally designed, or at least licensed and upgraded models of CASA and Puz equipment. Also possible PAK-FA pl0x?

Obviously, over half the stocks would be owned by most other KC nation's airspace companies.

[Virana]

(Image)

Emmeria here I come!

in all seriousness thats what I was going for, Esto already has a rapidity developing indigenous production for small arms and armored vehicles, there isn't much stopping it from at least churning out a dozen or so locally designed, or at least licensed and upgraded models of CASA and Puz equipment. Also possible PAK-FA pl0x?

fwoooooosh im coming!

@Puz: Firefox. yes.

[Licana]

(Image)

Emmeria here I come!

in all seriousness thats what I was going for, Esto already has a rapidity developing indigenous production for small arms and armored vehicles, there isn't much stopping it from at least churning out a dozen or so locally designed, or at least licensed and upgraded models of CASA and Puz equipment. Also possible PAK-FA pl0x?

Obviously, over half the stocks would be owned by most other KC nation's airspace companies.

Esto elite fiter squadron strigon team kkkleared for take off.

[San-Silvacian]

Baltic Defense Aerospace Design Bureau is now a thing

(Балтийский ВКО конструкторское бюро)

Going to be founded in the mid 1990s to produce parts for Estovkian-owned, Puz-made aircraft, early 2000s, the MiG-29 is licensed and true Estovakian produced MiG-29s roll off the assembly line (Very slow and somewhat expensive at first). During late 1990s as well a new fighter program is started, though its partly based off former MiG and Sukoui designs.

I'm not sure what I want to be from. At first i was thinking maybe the MiG 1.44 project, because if the dissolving of the Soviet Union wasn't as chaotic as RL was, then the MiG 1.44 project would have been really limited, but still working and they might have gotten a test flight in before the first one nine years past its due date.

Then I realized where the fuck I'd get the money from if everyone is producing the PAK-FA and now this little Esto wants MiG 1.44s all of the sudden.

Then maybe I'd produce upgraded Su-27s and MiG-29s, something along those lines as it would be much simpler.

[Transnapastain]

Baltic Defense Aerospace Design Bureau is now a thing

(Балтийский ВКО конструкторское бюро)

Going to be founded in the mid 1990s to produce parts for Estovkian-owned, Puz-made aircraft, early 2000s, the MiG-29 is licensed and true Estovakian produced MiG-29s roll off the assembly line (Very slow and somewhat expensive at first). During late 1990s as well a new fighter program is started, though its partly based off former MiG and Sukoui designs.

I'm not sure what I want to be from. At first i was thinking maybe the MiG 1.44 project, because if the dissolving of the Soviet Union wasn't as chaotic as RL was, then the MiG 1.44 project would have been really limited, but still working and they might have gotten a test flight in before the first one nine years past its due date.

Then I realized where the fuck I'd get the money from if everyone is producing the PAK-FA and now this little Esto wants MiG 1.44s all of the sudden.

Then maybe I'd produce upgraded Su-27s and MiG-29s, something along those lines as it would be much simpler.

MiG 1.44 belongs to CASA as the ~2025 PLU stealf fita.

[San-Silvacian]

Baltic Defense Aerospace Design Bureau is now a thing

(Балтийский ВКО конструкторское бюро)

Going to be founded in the mid 1990s to produce parts for Estovkian-owned, Puz-made aircraft, early 2000s, the MiG-29 is licensed and true Estovakian produced MiG-29s roll off the assembly line (Very slow and somewhat expensive at first). During late 1990s as well a new fighter program is started, though its partly based off former MiG and Sukoui designs.

I'm not sure what I want to be from. At first i was thinking maybe the MiG 1.44 project, because if the dissolving of the Soviet Union wasn't as chaotic as RL was, then the MiG 1.44 project would have been really limited, but still working and they might have gotten a test flight in before the first one nine years past its due date.

Then I realized where the fuck I'd get the money from if everyone is producing the PAK-FA and now this little Esto wants MiG 1.44s all of the sudden.

Then maybe I'd produce upgraded Su-27s and MiG-29s, something along those lines as it would be much simpler.

MiG 1.44 belongs to CASA as the ~2025 PLU stealf fita.

gfd i want yak-141 then?

also finialized name of esto stronk company

Baltic Defense Aeronautical Design Bureau - Балтийский обороны авиационной конструкторское бюро - BOKAB

pretty much going to make licensed copies and shit until something i like comes alone.

[Puzikas]

You can have the YaK.

[Premislyd]

Ye-8 stronk

[San-Silvacian]

You can have the YaK.

yes

since I'm on a streak, can I get the Yak-131 too?

Fuck it, I want Yak ;-;

[Transnapastain]

You can have the YaK.

yes

since I'm on a streak, can I get the Yak-131 too?

Fuck it, I want Yak ;-;

[22:03] <SanSilv> fuuuuuuuuuuuck
[22:06] <SanSilv> i just said fuck it and asked for yakovlev
[22:08] <Trans|Work> Like the enitre company?
[22:09] <SanSilv> Yeah, but I'd be willing to just take allot of the designs.
[22:11] <Trans|Work> Well, he p. much has to have the Yak-38
[22:11] <Trans|Work> At some point
[22:12] <Trans|Work> Maybe...I dont know, we can BS that Yak was based in the Baltic and, when the Soviet Union fell, nominal control reverted to you

[Puzikas]

yes

since I'm on a streak, can I get the Yak-131 too?

Fuck it, I want Yak ;-;

[22:03] <SanSilv> fuuuuuuuuuuuck
[22:06] <SanSilv> i just said fuck it and asked for yakovlev
[22:08] <Trans|Work> Like the enitre company?
[22:09] <SanSilv> Yeah, but I'd be willing to just take allot of the designs.
[22:11] <Trans|Work> Well, he p. much has to have the Yak-38
[22:11] <Trans|Work> At some point
[22:12] <Trans|Work> Maybe...I dont know, we can BS that Yak was based in the Baltic and, when the Soviet Union fell, nominal control reverted to you

Err...

Now, I hate YaKs. I think they r dumb. But I still have the OCD need to KEEP YaK.

So heres what I'm thinking:

Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing has already been split up, with me taking the SU-25 and other aviation component (as well as the small arms and such), and Harmson taking the AFVs and UAVs.

San can have the SU-25 component and what not, provided I am allowed to manufacture SU-25s myself. This keeps it in the sphere of influence and, at the same time, lets it be as exported as it was. Plus it gives San something to get on the map