[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Nazi Europe"

[Sedgistan]

Repeal "Liberate NAZI EUROPE"

Category: Repeal | Resolution: SC#109 | Proposed By: The Dark

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Description: The Security Council,

Prefacing the arguments herein with a disclaimer that the ideology followed and promoted by NAZI EUROPE and its inhabitants to be one of hate and intolerance and that this proposal does not amount to approval or acceptance of said ideology,

Believing, however, that every region should hold the right to self-protection in the way of Delegate-imposed password, should the natives of the region wish it, and that Liberations used in antithesis to this statute are in contradiction with the spirit of this council,

Aware that SC#109 was passed in hopes of misusing a Liberation to open up a region to attack from outside forces,

Stating that the multitude of attempts to forcibly take over the now-vulnerable region were utter failures in every aspect of the word, and that a combination of forces from many regions were unsuccessful in capturing NAZI EUROPE, to the amusement of the natives,

Fervently condemning that SC#109 not only produced free face time for such a despicable and Condemned region, but that the subsequent attempts to attack the region only had the effect of strengthening the region and its membership,

Therefore admonishing SC#109, its purpose, and effects as only promoting the region and ideology it attempted to destroy, and in fact doing more harm than good as well as abusing the power of the Liberation,

Hereby Repeals SC#109.

[Cerian Quilor]

Make it longer.

But fully support.

[Ramaeus]

Suggestions/corrections are in bold and underlined.

Stating that the multitude of attempts to forcibly take over the now-vulnerable region were utter failures in every aspect of the word, and that a combination of forces from many regions were unsuccessful in capturing NAZI EUROPE, to the amusement of the natives,

Therefore admonishing SC#109, its purpose, and effects as only promoting the region and ideology it attempted to destroy, and in fact doing more harm than good as well as abusing the power of the Liberation,

Not too bad. I am, however, sick, so I'll post more in-depth at a later date.

[The Dark]

Suggestions/corrections are in bold and underlined.

Stating that the multitude of attempts to forcibly take over the now-vulnerable region were utter failures in every aspect of the word, and that a combination of forces from many regions were unsuccessful in capturing NAZI EUROPE, to the amusement of the natives,

Therefore admonishing SC#109, its purpose, and effects as only promoting the region and ideology it attempted to destroy, and in fact doing more harm than good as well as abusing the power of the Liberation,

Not too bad. I am, however, sick, so I'll post more in-depth at a later date.

Thank you for catching my misses.

[Unibot III]

For!

The original, "Liberate Nazi Europe" was fueled by a committee of GCR Delegates who agreed to stack the resolution even against their own regions's wishes. It was purely a political affair to benefit off the fury of the Anti-Nazi political phenomenon of the day.

• It was an abuse of the WA Liberation category.
• It accomplished -nothing-, except for strengthening the resolve of Nazi communities (which have continued to grow).
• It sets a terrible precedent for the future of the WA.

Fig. 2. Composite population of popular Nazi Regions between 2012-2014.

The World Assembly should back out of the "War on Nazis". Invading has never been a feasible solution to Nazism in NationStates.

[Markhan]

For.

On a side note, giving attention to Nazis or any undesirable regime merely urges them to carry on. If you try to destroy them, or do anything to condemn them, they will persist, and in greater numbers. "Anti-Nazi" hate is actually "Pro-Nazi" fuel.

Yes, if the Nazis do begin to attack a region or nation, logically action must be taken. But that doesn't mean taking it to the next level by annihilating them completely and hating all Nazi nations.

On an out of character note, anyone can have the nation they so desire to create. Can be as ridiculous as having a nation which consists of marshmallows and is ruled by the chocolate fudge emperor.

[Casita]

fancy graph. Does that include multiple puppets made by individuals?

[Leningrad Union]

Oh my God can we just leave that region alone?

[Frattastan II]

Oh my God can we just leave that region alone?

That would be the purpose of this resolution, actually.

[Chester Pearson]

Support wholeheartedly....

[Leningrad Union]

Oh my God can we just leave that region alone?

That would be the purpose of this resolution, actually.

True, but what I meant was we should really stop making proposals about it.

[Ponderosa]

That would be the purpose of this resolution, actually.

True, but what I meant was we should really stop making proposals about it.

Maybe Feux should have thought about that before pushing this liberation. Anyhow, any attempt to repeal Liberate Nazi Europe is a good one, and this is well written. Support.

[Leningrad Union]

True, but what I meant was we should really stop making proposals about it.

Maybe Feux should have thought about that before pushing this liberation. Anyhow, any attempt to repeal Liberate Nazi Europe is a good one, and this is well written. Support.

Someone's going to make another resolution about it after this...

[Ponderosa]

Maybe Feux should have thought about that before pushing this liberation. Anyhow, any attempt to repeal Liberate Nazi Europe is a good one, and this is well written. Support.

Someone's going to make another resolution about it after this...

Probably not if the repeal passes.

[The Dark]

Maybe Feux should have thought about that before pushing this liberation. Anyhow, any attempt to repeal Liberate Nazi Europe is a good one, and this is well written. Support.

Someone's going to make another resolution about it after this...

You're speaking in hypotheticals as an argument against this proposal when we have perfectly real reasons to repeal SC#109.

[The Dark]

Is there any other material to be included in this draft? I think Unibot III points out exactly why this Liberation needs to be removed, but I am open to adding more information I may not be aware of.

[Casita]

The graph is useless. There is no supporting data to back up the numbers. Anyone can make a graph and say, - see, I told you so-

[Cerian Quilor]

While I would like to know Unibot's specific data, his trendline fits observed facts.

[The Dark]

I have submitted this piece and sent telegrams to the appropriate Delegates. Please consider approving and voting for this proposal should it make vote.

[Neoconstantius]

The graph is useless. There is no supporting data to back up the numbers. Anyone can make a graph and say, - see, I told you so-

It's impossible to take into account the number of puppet nations and other extenuating factors, but Unibot's graph does present data that appears to fit observed trends...and note that creation and maintenance of puppets, while not an accurate reflection of actual activity, are indicators of a more concerted interest and commitment in NS. And besides, this proposal isn't predicated on the graph anyways, so this discussion is irrelevant.

I fully support this repeal. Approved.

[Casita]

at the person above:

Well..you have successfully validated my observation and at the sametime attempt to invalidate it...odd way of thinking. Moreover, the observation was relevant enough for you to repond....odd, yet again.

The recent rise in Nazi activity is manufactured, just as the graph is an attempt to manipulate manufactured activity.

You are right, there has been a rise in activity in NE, but it is not necessarily due to an intrest in fascism. We can attribute the rise to the defenders of fascism through the guise of moral superiority and freedom of speech, most likely the people you support.

Liberating NE has been the best thing that the SC has done since I have been on this game.

[Casita]

While I would like to know Unibot's specific data, his trendline fits observed facts.

Observable facts require data to be considered fact, which even then is an approximation. Furthermore, a graph without data, is like saying, - because I said so- And seeing that we have no way, as far as I know, to determine who is making the puppets, then the question I have for you, is how are you comming up with such a conclusion?

[Untspah]

Isn't there any sort of required downtime between these things? It's as if I get a telegram every week asking for my support for the newest "Liberate Nazi Europe" draft that never bloody-well gets anywhere.

[Ponderosa]

Isn't there any sort of required downtime between these things? It's as if I get a telegram every week asking for my support for the newest "Liberate Nazi Europe" draft that never bloody-well gets anywhere.

Vote for it, and if it passes, there'll be no more proposals.

[Cerian Quilor]

While I would like to know Unibot's specific data, his trendline fits observed facts.

Observable facts require data to be considered fact, which even then is an approximation. Furthermore, a graph without data, is like saying, - because I said so- And seeing that we have no way, as far as I know, to determine who is making the puppets, then the question I have for you, is how are you comming up with such a conclusion?

I have observed an overall incease in the population and general activity of nazi regions since Liberate Nazi Europe was passed. I don't have specific data, but Unibot's Data fits that observed phenomenon.