Jocabia wrote:SaintB wrote:
They wanted (or maybe believed they had) the right to leave the Union whenever they felt like it, they wanted the right to have slaves (which Lincoln never contended until the shooting started), and basically in short they wanted State Governments to have more power then the Federal Government.
Then it became about rubbing it in people's faces.
Bullshit. The Confederacy they joined had more power. They required that all new states allow slavery. And they left after the Federal government wouldn't exert ENOUGH power. The Confederates states weren't fans of a weak federal government.
Just like now the only time states' rights are ever brought up is when they're pissed that have to respect the rights of minorities. Slavery. Segregation. Women's rights. Abortion. Gay marriage. Interracial marriage. And the list goes on. States' rights isn't about weaking the Federal government. It's about taking rights from the people and giving them to the states.
Uncoincidentally, however, when the federal government helps them deny those rights, they're huge fans. Gay Marriage amendment anyone?
I agree with your definition of what people mean when they say State's rights. Also, the government of the Confederacy was not stronger, because a state could leave at any time it wanted to.
I never argues that the Confederacy was not about slavery, I stated the FACT that that was not the only thing it was about, and that was not what the war was about, even after the emancipation proclamation. It was about "state's rights" and "federal government".