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What is your denomination?

Catholic
300
31%
Eastern Orthodox
101
10%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
8
1%
Lutheran
65
7%
Baptist
101
10%
Reformed (Calvinism, Presbyterianism, etc.)
48
5%
Anglican/Episcopalian
61
6%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
19
2%
Non-Denominational
148
15%
Other Christian
130
13%
 
Total votes : 981

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Postby Nuverikstan » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:44 pm

Grenartia wrote:Except neither the Soviet Union nor its puppet states were or are communist. But that's neither here nor there.

Then what were they?
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Postby Bundesdeutschland » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:46 pm

Agritum wrote:
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And yet the Commies were horrible on earth most of the time.

I'd like to distinguish the honourable Soviet scientists and cosmonauts, which truly aided humanity with their research and bravery, from the autocratic despots who ordered them around.


Autocratic despots=BAD!
Soviet scientists and cosmonauts=GOOD!!! :)
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:47 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Except neither the Soviet Union nor its puppet states were or are communist. But that's neither here nor there.

Then what were they?


Answer coming to you: in the communism thread. :p

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Postby Agritum » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:48 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Except neither the Soviet Union nor its puppet states were or are communist. But that's neither here nor there.

Then what were they?

State Capitalists with a Socialist inspiration. That said, I feel we are going offtopic.

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Postby Agritum » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:50 pm

So, to veer back the thread to more fitting topics...what doctrine do you follow regarding the so-called End Times? I'm pretty sure that all the Catholics and Orthodoxes here are Preteristic, which is why I'd like to hear the opinions of our Protestant friends.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:53 pm

Agritum wrote:So, to veer back the thread to more fitting topics...what doctrine do you follow regarding the so-called End Times? I'm pretty sure that all the Catholics and Orthodoxes here are Preteristic, which is why I'd like to hear the opinions of our Protestant friends.

Oh you :p.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:54 pm

Benuty wrote:
Agritum wrote:So, to veer back the thread to more fitting topics...what doctrine do you follow regarding the so-called End Times? I'm pretty sure that all the Catholics and Orthodoxes here are Preteristic, which is why I'd like to hear the opinions of our Protestant friends.

Oh you :p.

...any problems with "so-called" ?

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:55 pm

Agritum wrote:
Benuty wrote:Oh you :p.

...any problems with "so-called" ?


THE END IS NIGH!!!! Honestly I have no clue. I consider myself pretty intelligent, but I can't make heads or tails of half that book.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:59 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Agritum wrote:...any problems with "so-called" ?


THE END IS NIGH!!!! Honestly I have no clue. I consider myself pretty intelligent, but I can't make heads or tails of half that book.

Once you scrub past the symbolism it is actually an easy read (just make sure you have nothing to do for an hour or so when reading it).
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:02 pm

Benuty wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
THE END IS NIGH!!!! Honestly I have no clue. I consider myself pretty intelligent, but I can't make heads or tails of half that book.

Once you scrub past the symbolism it is actually an easy read (just make sure you have nothing to do for an hour or so when reading it).


I just ordered the Graphic Novel.

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Postby Agritum » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:04 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Benuty wrote:Once you scrub past the symbolism it is actually an easy read (just make sure you have nothing to do for an hour or so when reading it).


I just ordered the Graphic Novel.

Just looked it up. Crap, it's badass. The drawings look like Frank Miller's.

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Postby Pope Joan » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:08 pm

Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:10 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.

Someone should have told the Jehovah's witnesses.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:11 pm

Benuty wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.

Someone should have told the Jehovah's witnesses.

Or the Dispensationalists.

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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:14 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.

Exactly! On Holy Tuesday the Orthodox Church calls to remembrance two parables, which are related to the Second Coming. The one is the parable of the Ten Virgins (Matthew 25:1-3); the other the parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14-30). These parables point to the inevitability of the Parousia and deal with such subjects as spiritual vigilance, stewardship, accountability and judgment.
From these parables we learn at least two basic things. First, Judgment Day will be like the situation in which the bridesmaids (or virgins) of the parable found themselves: some ready for it, some not ready. The time one decides for God is now and not at some undefined point in the future. If "time and tide waits for no man," certainly the Parousia is no exception. The tragedy of the closed door is that individuals close it, not God. The exclusion from the marriage feast, the kingdom, is of our own making. Second, we are reminded that watchfulness and readiness do not mean a wearisome, spiritless performance of formal and empty obligations. Most certainly it does not mean inactivity and slothfulness. Watchfulness signifies inner stability, soberness, tranquility and joy. It means spiritual alertness, attentiveness and vigilance. Watchfulness is the deep personal resolve to find and do the will of God, embrace every commandment and every virtue, and guard the intellect and heart from evil thoughts and actions. Watchfulness is the intense love of God.

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Postby Nuverikstan » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:14 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.


We may know the week right?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:36 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.



That's a scary thought. I won't have a chance to clear my internet history.

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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:40 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.



That's a scary thought. I won't have a chance to clear my internet history.

:palm:

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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:44 pm

Dangelia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

That's a scary thought. I won't have a chance to clear my internet history.

:palm:

:rofl:
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:45 pm

Benuty wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.

Someone should have told the Jehovah's witnesses.


Someone should have told you all, for I am the Messiah.
"You know what I was. You see what I am. Change me, change me!" - Randall Jarrell.

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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:47 pm

Czechanada wrote:
Benuty wrote:Someone should have told the Jehovah's witnesses.


Someone should have told you all, for I am the Messiah.

:palm:

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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:48 pm

Czechanada wrote:
Benuty wrote:Someone should have told the Jehovah's witnesses.


Someone should have told you all, for I am the Messiah.

Depends on whose Messiah you are exactly.
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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:49 pm

Benuty wrote:
Czechanada wrote:
Someone should have told you all, for I am the Messiah.

Depends on whose Messiah you are exactly.

:clap:

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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:50 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Jesus says we will not know the day or the hour. It will be totally unexpected. So to me that means we do not get an extra thousand years in which to shape up.

He said he would come like a lightning flash from east to west, in the clouds of heaven. Nobody will have time to pack their bags.

I like it, one last experience of outstanding FX.

Plus, I do trust Jesus, and he seemed to honestly believe it would end that way.



That's a scary thought. I won't have a chance to clear my internet history.


Don't worry, not even God could penetrate the TOR browser.
"You know what I was. You see what I am. Change me, change me!" - Randall Jarrell.

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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Czechanada wrote:
Someone should have told you all, for I am the Messiah.

Depends on whose Messiah you are exactly.


I am the Messiah for enough people.
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