OOC 1870 RP (Open)

[Glasgia]

Also, what is the difference between the Cairo Conference and the Hannover Conference? What is being discussed?

Secondly, by the treaty made after the Oriental Crisis, isn't Egypt de jure a part of the Ottoman Empire? Also, couldn't the British just plant some more cotton in India, I don't think they are to keen on trading with some, as they would describe it, "uncivilised Arabs" in Egypt.

I think one of them is deciding my fate, though the British invasion may create a quicker decision I'd be interested to know what the other is about though.

As for Egypt, they declared independence from the Ottomans and have since been asserting their power within the region. You'd have to ask Britain about their cotton trading choices though.

[Zumreed]

Siam can into relevance!

Egypt, I thought we were supposed to have a diplomatic incident.

[Imperium Nova]

Also, what is the difference between the Cairo Conference and the Hannover Conference? What is being discussed?

Secondly, by the treaty made after the Oriental Crisis, isn't Egypt de jure a part of the Ottoman Empire? Also, couldn't the British just plant some more cotton in India, I don't think they are to keen on trading with some, as they would describe it, "uncivilised Arabs" in Egypt.

I think one of them is deciding my fate, though the British invasion may create a quicker decision I'd be interested to know what the other is about though.

As for Egypt, they declared independence from the Ottomans and have since been asserting their power within the region. You'd have to ask Britain about their cotton trading choices though.

But declaring independence would make the rest of the world nations come there to beat their ass again? As they signed the treaty, which also said that the Pasha thingie would rule Egypt, but belong to the Ottomans or so. Which is why Egypt was officially independent under British rule, and quickly became real independent.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Also, what is the difference between the Cairo Conference and the Hannover Conference? What is being discussed?

Secondly, by the treaty made after the Oriental Crisis, isn't Egypt de jure a part of the Ottoman Empire? Also, couldn't the British just plant some more cotton in India, I don't think they are to keen on trading with some, as they would describe it, "uncivilised Arabs" in Egypt.

Cairo discusses the rebuilding of France, Italian aggression in the Papal States, the fate of the Ottoman Empire, and the Partitioning of Africa. Hannover discusses the Concert of Europe and the balance of power.

Indeed. Egypt was given independence sometime during this RP, just before the fall of Versailles. The cotton industry in India just kinda declined during British colonialism. Egypt offers cheaper cotton and finished goods. (Yes, we have factories.)

Aside from the fact that the economy of Egypt tended to be in the hands of Turks and Balkans (Muhammad Ali and his family were Albanians from Macedon themselves), it happened in real life, and the Arabs of Egypt (cities, factories, canals) are a far cry from the tribes of Nejd (tents, sheep, wells). Not to mention that they are fairly Westernised and industrialised, with even a quarter in Cairo modeled after Paris.

Besides, that's what IC characters actually did (even Mexico and Siam!), so I'm just going with it.

[Imperium Nova]

Also, what is the difference between the Cairo Conference and the Hannover Conference? What is being discussed?

Secondly, by the treaty made after the Oriental Crisis, isn't Egypt de jure a part of the Ottoman Empire? Also, couldn't the British just plant some more cotton in India, I don't think they are to keen on trading with some, as they would describe it, "uncivilised Arabs" in Egypt.

Cairo discusses the rebuilding of France, Italian aggression in the Papal States, the fate of the Ottoman Empire, and the Partitioning of Africa. Hannover discusses the Concert of Europe and the balance of power.

Indeed. Egypt was given independence sometime during this RP, just before the fall of Versailles. The cotton industry in India just kinda declined during British colonialism. Egypt offers cheaper cotton and finished goods. (Yes, we have factories.)

Aside from the fact that the economy of Egypt tended to be in the hands of Turks and Balkans (Muhammad Ali and his family were Albanians from Macedon themselves), it happened in real life, and the Arabs of Egypt (cities, factories, canals) are a far cry from the tribes of Nejd (tents, sheep, wells). Not to mention that they are fairly Westernised and industrialised, with even a quarter in Cairo modeled after Paris.

Besides, that's what IC characters actually did (even Mexico and Siam!), so I'm just going with it.

Hmm, true. Maybe I am just biased by my own sense of how history was. With all non-European nations and America struggligng to do, really anything at all. Less the fact even attempt to win a war against said nations.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Cairo discusses the rebuilding of France, Italian aggression in the Papal States, the fate of the Ottoman Empire, and the Partitioning of Africa. Hannover discusses the Concert of Europe and the balance of power.

Indeed. Egypt was given independence sometime during this RP, just before the fall of Versailles. The cotton industry in India just kinda declined during British colonialism. Egypt offers cheaper cotton and finished goods. (Yes, we have factories.)

Aside from the fact that the economy of Egypt tended to be in the hands of Turks and Balkans (Muhammad Ali and his family were Albanians from Macedon themselves), it happened in real life, and the Arabs of Egypt (cities, factories, canals) are a far cry from the tribes of Nejd (tents, sheep, wells). Not to mention that they are fairly Westernised and industrialised, with even a quarter in Cairo modeled after Paris.

Besides, that's what IC characters actually did (even Mexico and Siam!), so I'm just going with it.

Hmm, true. Maybe I am just biased by my own sense of how history was. With all non-European nations and America struggligng to do, really anything at all. Less the fact even attempt to win a war against said nations.

No problem, sirrah, we still love you.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Can Colombia into discussion?

[Glasgia]

Can Colombia into discussion?

¡No! ¡Colombia es mal!

[Imperium Nova]

Can Colombia into discussion?

¡No! ¡Colombia es mal!

Si?

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Can Colombia into discussion?

yuo not of power!

make removings of ajiaco from premises!

blockade of bogota best day of life!

Am currently writing up a constitution for my new nation.

[House Korva]

Ahk, sorry I've been gone guys, this is the Dragonry.

My family is evil.

*Totally didn't forget about this RP... nope, it was mom's fault.*

[Zumreed]

Can Colombia into discussion?

yuo not of power!

make removings of ajiaco from premises!

blockade of bogota best day of life!

Am currently writing up a constitution for my new nation.

Remove kebab from premises pls

[Imperium Nova]

yuo not of power!

make removings of ajiaco from premises!

blockade of bogota best day of life!

Am currently writing up a constitution for my new nation.

Remove kebab from premises pls

Srbija Stronk, remove kebab

[Zumreed]

E

Remove kebab from premises pls

Srbija Stronk, remove kebab

Italy cannot into Rome

[Seljuq Kyiv]

E

Srbija Stronk, remove kebab

Italy cannot into Rome

siam cannot into swahili coast

[The Time Alliance]

Argentina? Has he posted. What's his status? How is he doing? Do you like him?

[Brissia]

E
Italy cannot into Rome

siam cannot into swahili coast

egypt cannot into civilized

[Imperium Nova]

E
Italy cannot into Rome

siam cannot into swahili coast

Siam is going to Swahili? Damn it. I think I might just have to become the Dominion of Africa, and just take over it all. Who would want some swahili people, speaking Thai and cooking woks?

[Glasgia]

siam cannot into swahili coast

Siam is going to Swahili? Damn it. I think I might just have to become the Dominion of Africa, and just take over it all. Who would want some swahili people, speaking Thai and cooking woks?

Imagine it, Lion Chow Mein.... I want Thai-Swahili food, I want it now!

[Zumreed]

Siam is going to Swahili? Damn it. I think I might just have to become the Dominion of Africa, and just take over it all. Who would want some swahili people, speaking Thai and cooking woks?

Imagine it, Lion Chow Mein.... I want Thai-Swahili food, I want it now!

SURPRISE ENLIGHTENMENT

I will make it so...

[Imperium Nova]

Siam is going to Swahili? Damn it. I think I might just have to become the Dominion of Africa, and just take over it all. Who would want some swahili people, speaking Thai and cooking woks?

Imagine it, Lion Chow Mein.... I want Thai-Swahili food, I want it now!

Why not British Swahili food? Just imagine. Lion with toasted bread, coated with marmite.

[Zumreed]

E
Italy cannot into Rome

siam cannot into swahili coast

Kebab y u do dis

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

I should point out that, though you're correct in all, the Count of Chambord (who the legitimists wanted on the throne), before his death, appointed Phillipe d'Orleans as his heir. Unfortunately for the royalists, who could unite behind the successor, this came just after they lost their majority. It does not mean, however, that a foreign power can assume that they would be unable to co-operate in order to establish a monarchy that would seek revenge against not only those who deposed it but those who sacked their cities...

Its a fair point that it cannot IC'ly be supposed by the rest of us that the monarchists of France can't cooperate to set up a revanchist government. But the exact same thing can be said of the Communards. Blanqui's goons murdered Trouchou and every reactionary regime in the world should assume that a Communard victory would mean the exportation of the revolution to the rest of the world.

I have absolutely no demands. I'm offering to give in to some demands. Kryskov ordered the reinstatement of the French Third Republic and disbanding of Socialism. Not too keen on getting my nation annexed and the leadership politically supressed, so I offered to negotiate some more moderate terms.

He just asked me not to put up too much of a fight

The Russian position is essentially that there can be no negotiations of any kind as long as the Paris Commune exists. While Russia doesn't want to weaken France any further there can be no compromise about the continued existence of a socialist terror regime. Also even if the Communards has done better in this RP than in RL my political leadership doesn't consider it plausible that they can prevail against the conservative elements of the French military and countryside and therefore considers their existence a weakening of whatever regime will replace the Second Empire why they have to be crushed that France can become strong.

When are we gonna do the Hanover conference?

Anyway, I thought it was spelt with two 'n's.

Soon I hope. In the mean time why do you not attend the Cairo Conference?

.....Venice was taken back from the Austrian Oppressors in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Italian_War_of_Independence in the 1860's

Indeed. But your map is still wrong, the last vestiges of the Papal States has not yet been seized.

The Fall of Rome happened on September 20 1870.....

[Glasgia]

Its a fair point that it cannot IC'ly be supposed by the rest of us that the monarchists of France can't cooperate to set up a revanchist government. But the exact same thing can be said of the Communards. Blanqui's goons murdered Trouchou and every reactionary regime in the world should assume that a Communard victory would mean the exportation of the revolution to the rest of the world.

The Russian position is essentially that there can be no negotiations of any kind as long as the Paris Commune exists. While Russia doesn't want to weaken France any further there can be no compromise about the continued existence of a socialist terror regime. Also even if the Communards has done better in this RP than in RL my political leadership doesn't consider it plausible that they can prevail against the conservative elements of the French military and countryside and therefore considers their existence a weakening of whatever regime will replace the Second Empire why they have to be crushed that France can become strong.

Soon I hope. In the mean time why do you not attend the Cairo Conference?

Indeed. But your map is still wrong, the last vestiges of the Papal States has not yet been seized.

The Fall of Rome happened on September 20 1870.....

And this RP hhas been following its own alternate history since January. Unless a previous Italian player took it, it's still independent.

[Aurinsula]

Actually, I gotta pull a volte-face. This is far, far too much for me to keep apace with. I gotta back out.