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Who will OP the next iteration of the IDT?

Aqizithiuda
36
27%
Benomia
34
25%
Dread Lady Nathicana
6
4%
Kyrusia
3
2%
Purpelia
11
8%
Samoz (Imperializt Russia)
8
6%
Spreewerke
14
10%
Transnapastain
9
7%
Ulfr-Reich / Aethal
3
2%
United states of brazilian nations
10
7%
 
Total votes : 134

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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:09 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:If I remember your explanation correct, in the case of a misfire, you pull the bolt to the rear, remove the magazine and try to shake the round out of the chamber. That seems like a weak point for the gun.

That's the stoppage drill for 'Obstruction' for the SA80. The other stoppage drills are 'forward-assist', 'refit magazine' and 'fit new magazine'.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:10 pm

Bezombia wrote:that sounds farmiliar

Wasn't that the caseless bolt action BenoSniper that used the bolt to hold the magazine in?
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Postby Blackledge » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:13 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Lyras wrote:It's not conventional action at all. It's electronically fired, and the rotating bolt is in order to feed the round into the chamber. The locking of the bolt is very secondary to that point.
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If I remember your explanation correct, in the case of a misfire, you pull the bolt to the rear, remove the magazine and try to shake the round out of the chamber. That seems like a weak point for the gun.

Sounds like an unusual point for a gun where everything else otherwise seems thought out.
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Postby Bezombia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:15 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Bezombia wrote:that sounds farmiliar

Wasn't that the caseless bolt action BenoSniper that used the bolt to hold the magazine in?


And also my main service rifle, until I figured out a system that would work (read: I realized the rifle I based it on had a system that worked).
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:19 pm

Blackledge wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
If I remember your explanation correct, in the case of a misfire, you pull the bolt to the rear, remove the magazine and try to shake the round out of the chamber. That seems like a weak point for the gun.

Sounds like an unusual point for a gun where everything else otherwise seems thought out.


Sounds like a Beano.
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Postby Bezombia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:20 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Blackledge wrote:Sounds like an unusual point for a gun where everything else otherwise seems thought out.


Sounds like a Beano.


see look ford other people did it too i'm not crazy
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:26 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:If I remember your explanation correct, in the case of a misfire, you pull the bolt to the rear, remove the magazine and try to shake the round out of the chamber. That seems like a weak point for the gun.

That's the stoppage drill for 'Obstruction' for the SA80. The other stoppage drills are 'forward-assist', 'refit magazine' and 'fit new magazine'.

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Huh. How about that? I still prefer the push through design, but objection withdrawn.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:28 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Sounds like a Beano.


see look ford other people did it too i'm not crazy


I can spot a crazy person when I see one. Trust me, I'm crazy.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Bezombia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:31 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
see look ford other people did it too i'm not crazy


I can spot a crazy person when I see one. Trust me, I'm crazy.


hi crazy i'm benomia

[/really really bad joke]
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
see look ford other people did it too i'm not crazy


I can spot a crazy person when I see one. Trust me, I'm crazy.



then be crazy and make an HMG that fires triplex ammunition.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:36 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I can spot a crazy person when I see one. Trust me, I'm crazy.


hi crazy i'm benomia

[/really really bad joke]


mfw Beano is my dad no
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Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Bezombia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
hi crazy i'm benomia

[/really really bad joke]


mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE


...fuck it that's going in my signature
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:44 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Kouralia wrote:That's the stoppage drill for 'Obstruction' for the SA80. The other stoppage drills are 'forward-assist', 'refit magazine' and 'fit new magazine'.

Image
M68


Huh. How about that? I still prefer the push through design, but objection withdrawn.

Tbf, if a round fails to fire and you hold the bolt to the rear it will eject. Obstruction is for when rounds fail to feed, or if shit gets in the chamber.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:48 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Huh. How about that? I still prefer the push through design, but objection withdrawn.

Tbf, if a round fails to fire and you hold the bolt to the rear it will eject. Obstruction is for when rounds fail to feed, or if shit gets in the chamber.


Ah. Still, you could probably argue that a FTF or FTI involving a caseless round will leave a lot of shit in the chamber.
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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:49 pm

This thread needs more bayonets.

EDIT: The blade length has been corrected!

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Ea90
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Postby Ea90 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:51 pm

New Tsavon wrote:This thread needs more bayonets.

(Image)

Ha; you call that a bayonet?

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:54 pm

Did somebody say bayonets?

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Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:58 pm

Ea90 wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:This thread needs more bayonets.

(Image)

Ha; you call that a bayonet?

Nope, I accidentally the blade length.

Better?

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Postby Premislyd » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:59 pm

New Tsavon wrote:This thread needs more bayonets.

(Image)


That's a real dinky bayonet
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Postby Ea90 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:00 pm

New Tsavon wrote:
Ea90 wrote:Ha; you call that a bayonet?

Nope, I accidentally the blade length.

Better?

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Sufficient levels of bladeyness.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:03 pm

guys im so gay:

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my bayonet can be used as a utility knife

i might as well be putting dildos in my rifle rite
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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:05 pm

Premislyd wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:This thread needs more bayonets.

(Image)


That's a real dinky bayonet

It's been fixed.

Fordorsia wrote:Did somebody say bayonets?

(Image)

I'm not sure how well that'd hold on if you actually stabbed someone, or something with it.

The rest of Ulfheim might actually be onto something with this whole "dedicated bayonet lug" concept. You should try it some time.

Ea90 wrote:Sufficient levels of bladeyness.

Good!
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Postby Premislyd » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:06 pm

New Tsavon wrote:It's been fixed.


Except it hasn't.
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:06 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:guys im so gay:

(Image)

my bayonet can be used as a utility knife

i might as well be putting dildos in my rifle rite

What does that little oval in bayonets actually do? I put one in mine w/out knowing why. :p

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Kouralia:

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:07 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:guys im so gay:

(Image)

my bayonet can be used as a utility knife

i might as well be putting dildos in my rifle rite


Dildos serve a bigger purpose.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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