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by Stattr » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:11 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Heresy. The earth is flat. It's evening everywhere. Stattr needs to be guillotined.
Hlad:And after that?
Ethel: She is moving in with you, you will equip a throne room for her, and bring her rose petals everyday. You shall dress in a french maid's outfit, and only speak english with a bad french accent.
by Thafoo » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:45 pm
The Unified Citizen Front wrote:Thafoo wrote:I'm happy to die, makes life more worthwhile. I just really, really hope it's not something like being run over by a buffalo stampede or being fatally stabbed by Mitch McConnell.
Looking forward to dying? Especially with Mitch McConnell?
Ok. Look. Dying isn't fun guys.
It doesn't end with being fatally stabbed by Mitch McConnell, that's just where the pain begins.
You've got a sharp, pointy thing in your stomach pressing on all of your nerve endings. Like a needle going into your arm to draw blood, this knife is hanging out of you. It's heavy, and nobody's going to pull it out because they know you'll bleed to death. Every time your heart beats, it rubs against the blade. Just breathing is putting you into insurmountable pain. Chances are, Mitch dipped it into pig feces, so you'll catch sepsis. You'll get to feel a tingling sensation where the knife entered, and that's the bacteria eating away at your epidermis. Inside though, bacteria is multiplying like crazy, attacking your circulatory and respiratory system. Your breath smells of poo. You know why.
The paramedics come, and lift you onto a gurney. You drop hard on your back, and your organs press forward. The knife cuts deeper, and hits your spine, where the bulk of your nerves are. Mitch waves goodbye, getting away with everything because politicians do what they want to.
You're in an ambulance. They stuff a mask on you and get you high on oxygen so you stop screaming. They take you to the hospital. They know you're dying, but want to charge your family for insurance anyway. Once you hit the emergency room, the bacteria's making you want to throw up. Your heart and lungs are infected with sepsis. You're unable to breath because of the inflammation in your airways. You gurgle up thick saliva, and slowly choke to death on it. It's all over. They send their apologies- and the $10,000 bill- to your family and to your insurance company.
That's what it's like for Mitch McConnell to kill you. Dying isn't fun, especially when you're killed by Mitch McConnell.
by Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:06 pm
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.
by The Republic of Lanos » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:46 pm
by Len Hyet » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:12 pm
by Arglorand » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:02 pm
Seriong wrote:Let me take this one, I got it Vazzie boyLuveria wrote:
Indoors when not having the space for it? When not having the money to pay for the growing equipment?
Then farm the 'local animals' if you catch my drift, cities are pretty densely populated with food, if you look for them. Apartment complexes actually put them right above, and beside you dwelling.Luveria wrote:
Without any money?
Find a small child with a lemonade stand, knock them over, steal the lemonade, reinvest all the profits into buying more lemonade.Luveria wrote:
Like what?
I don't know, but I've already given ways to get food and a job, what more do you want? /s
by Anollasia » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:40 pm
Merconitonitopia wrote:Dear Santa;
This year I have been a very good dictator.
All I ask of you is a police force so I CAN MAKE MY SUBJECTS FEAR ME.
Yours sincerely,
~Supreme Leader Infuschein
by Vitaphone Racing » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:26 am
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Arglorand » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:02 am
by The Republic of Lanos » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:39 pm
Anemos Major wrote:Mad Jack wrote:[Perhaps the founder account could be held by a group of senior members of your region? That would allow the current founder to move to his nation whilst keeping your region secure.
Multiple ownership of the same account, I would guess, wouldn't be looked upon too kindly by the powers that be (IP and account sharing make rule enforcement harder) - if it's recognised that some form of mechanism to allow regions to outlive their founders is necessary, what's the problem with implementing a succession system?
The input from the raider side seems to be focusing almost exclusively on the realm of how R/D is effectively an integral 'part of the game'. It's been abundantly proven already that it isn't (R/D is a player-created construction making use of the WA and regions in an unintended fashion, changes were made to the game to accommodate that form of gameplay over time but by the time these developments occurred, there were people RPing, people who played NS for the WA side of things and so on and so forth) -Luna Amore wrote:It makes about as much sense as playing chess and asking to be safeguarded against the queen. It's part of the game.
- which means that it's less this, and more asking to be safeguarded against the queen from the chess table across the room when you're trying to play bridge, whereas the way things are mean that the queen is allowed to trash our game of bridge unless we follow a particular set of rules. And all this in a room where, in theory, people are allowed to play chess, or bridge, or whatever strikes their fancy. There've been a number of slight variations along this theme that're equally questionable - there're those, for example, who seem to believe that raiding's inherent superiority derives from the fact that this site describes itself as a political simulation (somewhat satirically, may I add) and R/D is the most authentic form of simulation on this site. Which is equally questionable; if you think that the vandalising of geopolitical regions whose security and stability rests on the shoulders of a single UN delegate is a genuine reflection of international politics, so be it, but RPers have their own brand of politcking and geopolitical interaction that's flourishing on the forums. Even disregarding the fact that this site shouldn't be treated with such a closed mind, there should be no reason why one brand of 'politics' should be hoisted over another.
All that having been said, I think this discussion has developed, for the most part, to the point where RPers aren't trying to bash in the head of raiding once and for all. Nor are we asking for a blanket opt-out, despite the fact that, in theory, there's absolutely no reason why an RPer should have to find themselves dragged into the consequences of raiding - most are doing this because they recognise that the ability to opt out entirely would have an impact of sorts upon raiding, and that raiding can't really continue unless it continues to be foisted onto others against their will. And really, if raiders can't see that and understand that it's a concession being made on a terrible point out of nothing but the view that the R/D game should be preserved alongside what we're trying to build up and given its own room, there really are no greater concessions we can make during the course of a discussion such as this.
Most of what we're trying to look for - founder succession, regional officers, the assurance that raiders will stop tearing apart regions every time they finish an invasion (and that they can be held to enforced standards of behaviour) - is being pushed because we're looking for some degree of assurances having made that concession. We recognise that raiders have their own particular way of enjoying the game and that's something we don't want to get rid of outright, but we also think it's highly unlikely that raiders will suddenly find themselves incapable of enjoying that game if we secure particular means by which to keep things functioning and to allow regions to exist in a fashion that meets the needs and circumstances with which RPers find themselves saddled with. Will it become harder? Quite possibly, in a very limited capacity across a limited number of regions. Will you no longer get to do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it? Absolutely - to which I have to ask, since when was defacing regional pages outright and the RMB to the point where natives can't use either at all acceptable in the first place? All the arguments that've been thrown out completely disregard everything we've been saying for nearly fifty pages now. Get a password? Page one, and a few pages since then - Morrdh made a good point here - it's been discussed. Strip your delegate of powers? Again, page one, and this has been discussed all the way up until the last few pages as well. Move to a new region when your founder CTEs? Many people have pointed out that trying to get an entire RPing region to move, especially with the intermittent membership that defines a lot of these older regions, is a far, far more immense task than raiders can possibly imagine. And there's no decent reason why, after a few months away from the site, an older player should come back and suddenly find that they have no region to return to, no community with which to talk.
We're making our concessions, we're providing our defences. Continually parroting the same, inane mixture of 'get a thicker skin' and 'it's part of the game' doesn't do anything about that, and it doesn't develop this discussion in any way. Yes, we get that the current status quo wildly favours raiders against everybody who doesn't want to have anything to do with them - no wonder you don't want it changed. But that's the root of this entire problem, a problem that's drawn countless RPers to this thread with more to come, inevitably, and something's got to give, eventually. Again - you can't have your cake and eat it. R/D isn't the most important form of gameplay on NS, just as RPing isn't, and if we're all supposed to co-exist we need to do so under terms that are as equitable, and mindful and respectful of the other as we can make them. As it stands, they're not - and thus things need to change.
by Shofercia » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:12 pm
Respubliko de Libereco wrote:Looks like Russia was putin a bad situation, and now they're russian to improve their international image.
by Constaniana » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:17 pm
Shofercia wrote:Although I disagree with this quote from a political perspective, I have to admit that it's very funny, and even it's only awesome from a funniness perspective, I feel that it's inclusion in the awesome or funny NS quotes thread is appropriate:Respubliko de Libereco wrote:Looks like Russia was putin a bad situation, and now they're russian to improve their international image.
Ameriganastan wrote:I work hard to think of those ludicrous Eric adventure stories, but I don't think I'd have come up with rescuing a three armed alchemist from goblin-monkeys in a million years.
Kudos.
by Ruridova » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:24 pm
Constaniana wrote:Shofercia wrote:Although I disagree with this quote from a political perspective, I have to admit that it's very funny, and even it's only awesome from a funniness perspective, I feel that it's inclusion in the awesome or funny NS quotes thread is appropriate:
Looks like I'll have to get a Canada country jokes out of the cupboard to respond to this.
by Thafoo » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:10 pm
by Damanucus » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:40 pm
by Constaniana » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:14 am
Ameriganastan wrote:I work hard to think of those ludicrous Eric adventure stories, but I don't think I'd have come up with rescuing a three armed alchemist from goblin-monkeys in a million years.
Kudos.
by Grenartia » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:18 am
by Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:22 am
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.
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