Government organized looting in Venezuela.

[Geilinor]

A conventional social democratic party could do the same.

Indeed.

Venezuela actually has lots of social democratic and reformist parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Venezuela

[Aeken]

Obviously everyone is. But being funded and backed by Venezuela's government isn't something to completely trust.

Nor is being funded by defence corporations, private military corporations, petrol conglomerates, banks, groups such as AIPAC, or any other of these elite organisations pushing for war, trustworthy, I am sorry to say.

What are you referring to?

[Farnhamia]

http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-v ... ation-299/
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10148

Ok... what sort of conspirators print the names of their organizations on the plans?

While we are at it, I see no endorsement of actual criminal activities in that paper.

Between the lines, that's where you have to read.

[Liriena]

It suggests flagrant "regime change" in that paper, which, as we have seen time then again, resulted in the plundering of countless countries, the establishment of vile right-wing noodles, as well as foreign corporations swooping in to finalise the destruction of these nations.

So... strawman?

[Liriena]

Indeed.

Venezuela actually has lots of social democratic and reformist parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Venezuela

But Latin American voters usually don't vote for social democratic and reformist parties, unless they have extremely charismatic and populist leaders.

[The Republic of Lanos]

vile right-wing noodles

Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.

[Mike the Progressive]

A conventional social democratic party could do the same.

Indeed.

The good news is more and more firms will decide not to invest in Venezuela as a result, unemployment will skyrocket, and hopefully the people will un-elect these dickwads.

[Liriena]

Ok... what sort of conspirators print the names of their organizations on the plans?

While we are at it, I see no endorsement of actual criminal activities in that paper.

Between the lines, that's where you have to read.

Between the lines there's sky blue paper.

[Liriena]

Indeed.

The good news is more and more firms will decide not to invest in Venezuela as a result, unemployment will skyrocket, and hopefully the people will un-elect these dickwads.

I never hope for the failure of a regime... but yeah... hopefully the people will un-elect this idiot and his insane followers.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Nor is being funded by defence corporations, private military corporations, petrol conglomerates, banks, groups such as AIPAC, or any other of these elite organisations pushing for war, trustworthy, I am sorry to say.

What are you referring to?

"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".

Ok... what sort of conspirators print the names of their organizations on the plans?

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While we are at it, I see no endorsement of actual criminal activities in that paper.

Between the lines, that's where you have to read.

This.

[Liriena]

vile right-wing noodles

Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.

Corporal Imperialist Anti-Socialist Middle Class Argie Scum reporting for duty! >:3

[Minarchist States]

*Insert anti government libertarian response and condemnation here*

[Farnhamia]

What are you referring to?

"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".

Between the lines, that's where you have to read.

This.

viewtopic.php?p=17344718#p17344718

[Liriena]

What are you referring to?

"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".

Between the lines, that's where you have to read.

This.

So... I'm supposed to imagine that everything in that paper is an euphemism for a USA-backed military coup?

[Mike the Progressive]

The good news is more and more firms will decide not to invest in Venezuela as a result, unemployment will skyrocket, and hopefully the people will un-elect these dickwads.

I never hope for the failure of a regime... but yeah... hopefully the people will un-elect this idiot and his insane followers.

Eh, I pity the people.

[Altaskye]

President Nicolás Maduro ordered the military to occupy Daka stores, equivalent of best buy ( well maybe closer to circuit city soon given the likely bankruptcy), to sell electronics at a "fair price" in order to combat economic warfare. What does fair mean ? I have no clue what fair means I suspect fair means going out of business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... s/3486581/

In other news there is a massive shortage of toilet paper in Venezuela.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10109


In my view I do not even think Venezuela can claim to be a socialist country anymore, instead Venezuela should call itself a really bad right winged satire of socialism.

So what says NSG ? has Venezuela gone too crazy or not ?

Venezuela has never been asinine, never will. It knows the truth of what is being waged against them, it is one of many nations victimised by Capitalist Imperialism.

Imposing fairer prices is best so that their people can continue to afford their commodities without tightening the belt during the times of foreign imposed economic war.

Until those commodities are no longer on the shelves....

[Souriya Al-Assad]

"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".



This.

So... I'm supposed to imagine that everything in that paper is an euphemism for a USA-backed military coup?

Because it simply is. The language behind what is written implies they will do everything in their power to revert Latin America into the stone age of Pinochets.

It has also been similar elsewhere too. "Democracy spreading, regime change" = destroying countries

Venezuela has never been asinine, never will. It knows the truth of what is being waged against them, it is one of many nations victimised by Capitalist Imperialism.

Imposing fairer prices is best so that their people can continue to afford their commodities without tightening the belt during the times of foreign imposed economic war.

Until those commodities are no longer on the shelves....

If I succeed in making a Sixth Republic, I will ally with Venezuela, help them fight through these times, thence make their Chavista movement rise anew.

[Minarchist States]

I never hope for the failure of a regime... but yeah... hopefully the people will un-elect this idiot and his insane followers.

Eh, I pity the people.

I don't. Karma.

[Liriena]

Because it simply is. The language behind what is written implies they will do everything in their power to revert Latin America into the stone age of Pinochets.

You sure that's not wishful thinking on your part? All I see in that piece of paper is a bunch of neoliberals whining about the death of democracy in Latin America and planning to revert that through active participation in the upcoming elections. There's no talk of installing a Pinochet equivalent, let alone resorting to violence.

Besides, if such a thing was a part of their plan, I doubt any clever conspirator would print his own name, or that of his organization, on the plans.

[Mike the Progressive]

Eh, I pity the people.

I don't. Karma.

Well, no, I mean they brought this on themselves. I know that. But I feel sad that they were so misguided into thinking that the Chaveze's and Maduro's of the world held the solution. More often than not, voting for something that seems too good to be true, probably is. In this case, they were promised jobs and hope and will probably end up with neither.

[Regnum Dominae]

vile right-wing noodles

Proud right-wing capitalist American noodle reporting in.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Because it simply is. The language behind what is written implies they will do everything in their power to revert Latin America into the stone age of Pinochets.

You sure that's not wishful thinking on your part? All I see in that piece of paper is a bunch of neoliberals whining about the death of democracy in Latin America and planning to revert that through active participation in the upcoming elections. There's no talk of installing a Pinochet equivalent, let alone resorting to violence.

Besides, if such a thing was a part of their plan, I doubt any clever conspirator would print his own name, or that of his organization, on the plans.

Neo-liberals are the very essence of this movement alongside neo-conservatives.

No, these conspirators assumed they had a secure line through which they could exchange information, some hacker got them in the arse, the leak is the result.

[Liriena]

You sure that's not wishful thinking on your part? All I see in that piece of paper is a bunch of neoliberals whining about the death of democracy in Latin America and planning to revert that through active participation in the upcoming elections. There's no talk of installing a Pinochet equivalent, let alone resorting to violence.

Besides, if such a thing was a part of their plan, I doubt any clever conspirator would print his own name, or that of his organization, on the plans.

Neo-liberals are the very essence of this movement alongside neo-conservatives.

No, these conspirators assumed they had a secure line through which they could exchange information, some hacker got them in the arse, the leak is the result.

Is there a PDF available for the entire plan?

[Miyager]

If I succeed in making a Sixth Republic, I will ally with Venezuela, help them fight through these times, thence make their Chavista movement rise anew.

You're not going to, and that's a good thing.

[Minarchist States]

I don't. Karma.

Well, no, I mean they brought this on themselves. I know that. But I feel sad that they were so misguided into thinking that the Chaveze's and Maduro's of the world held the solution. More often than not, voting for something that seems too good to be true, probably is. In this case, they were promised jobs and hope and will probably end up with neither.

Probably. But now Venezuela is stuck with him and nobody is strong enough to start a revolution.