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Yes, give it to him
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Neither Putin nor Obama should have one
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:So since Russia was able to avert a war in Syria by standing up to the US of A, there are growing rumors that perhaps Vladimir Putin should deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2013/09/pr-campaign-gears-get-nobel-peace-prize-putin
He is clearly a wise leader and although he has some unflattering tendencies (like his attitude towards homosexuals) so did Obama (Drones, NSA, etc) and that didn't stop him from getting one or having said prize revoked.

I know it's a longshot, since the Nobel Committee is ideologically aligned with western values and is probably loath to give a prize to someone who so strongly opposes the liberal transatlantic power structure but it's worth speculating because he arguably is the most formidable statesman of our day.


Agreed. The Putin deserves the Prize.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:15 pm

Luziyca wrote:Obama got one, so... it doesn't really matter, although I hope Obama doesn't get another one.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:15 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:So since Russia was able to avert a war in Syria by standing up to the US of A, there are growing rumors that perhaps Vladimir Putin should deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2013/09/pr-campaign-gears-get-nobel-peace-prize-putin
He is clearly a wise leader and although he has some unflattering tendencies (like his attitude towards homosexuals) so did Obama (Drones, NSA, etc) and that didn't stop him from getting one or having said prize revoked.

I know it's a longshot, since the Nobel Committee is ideologically aligned with western values and is probably loath to give a prize to someone who so strongly opposes the liberal transatlantic power structure but it's worth speculating because he arguably is the most formidable statesman of our day.


Agreed. The Putin deserves the Prize.

Knowing you, I'd think you'd support Bathar Al Athad.
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Postby Greater Vayland » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:16 pm

Finium wrote:They'll probably give Obama another one, or is it the pope's turn?


If Francis can get up on stage to receive it and shake hands before one of the Vatican's drones overrule him again? Sure.
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Postby Cu Math » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:16 pm

This makes as much sense as awarding Stalin an olympic medal for inadvertently creating biathlon...by invading Finland.
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Postby Neoconstantius » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:16 pm

Luziyca wrote:Obama got one, so... it doesn't really matter, although I hope Obama doesn't get another one.

What could he possibly get another one for? Our ongoing war in Afghanistan? The increasing frequency of aerial drone strikes across the world? His sooper-uber-alliez coalition that intervened in Libya? A man of peace, indeed.
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Postby Nyr Hrafn-Heim » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:16 pm

The big VP has been /Putin/ Obama in his place. You go girl.
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Postby Finium » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:16 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Obama got one, so... it doesn't really matter, although I hope Obama doesn't get another one.

YEAH, fucking OBAMA. WHERE'S MY CHANGE? HUH?

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Postby Constaniana » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:17 pm

Magnificent abs and the ability to kill a dozen polar bears from forty paces away with a single flex of the left bicep aren't qualifications for a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:17 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Agreed. The Putin deserves the Prize.

Knowing you, I'd think you'd support Bathar Al Athad.


Hey it' not cool to make fun of Bashar's lisp. Disability is something to sympathize with, not ostracize.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:17 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Knowing you, I'd think you'd support Bathar Al Athad.


Hey it' not cool to make fun of Bashar's lisp. Disability is something to sympathize with, not ostracize.

Is chinlessness a disability?
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Postby Wolfenium » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:18 pm

To a man who suppressed free speech, outlaws homosexuality and invades breakaway states and unruly ex-puppets, I don't think so. But then, they gave one to Obama solely for being the first non-white president to be elected in the US, so I don't expect to be surprised if Putin somehow got one.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:18 pm

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Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:I don't usually vote for Nobel Prize winners, but when I do, I prefer ones that throw a women's rights band in prison.


Pussy Riot was kinda asking for it.


You know who says stuff like that? Rape apologists.

Nope, Pussy Riot wasn't asking for it. Putin is a reactionary leader who doesn't give a fuck about his people. He has no compunction about trampling other people's right. He's not Nobel Prize material.

And for the record, neither was Obama. I thought that him winning it was a travesty.
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Postby Greater Vayland » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 pm

Constaniana wrote:Magnificent abs and the ability to kill a dozen polar bears from forty paces away with a single flex of the left bicep aren't qualifications for a Nobel Peace Prize.


You're terrible. :lol:
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Hey it' not cool to make fun of Bashar's lisp. Disability is something to sympathize with, not ostracize.

Is chinlessness a disability?


Not really, and in any case Assad has a fine chin. As a straight male I can't tell if he's attractive but since he has a super hot wife then I can deduce he must be fairly good looking.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:20 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Is chinlessness a disability?


Not really, and in any case Assad has a fine chin. As a straight male I can't tell if he's attractive but since he has a super hot wife then I can deduce he must be fairly good looking.

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Postby Neoconstantius » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Pussy Riot was kinda asking for it.


You know who says stuff like that? Rape apologists.

Nope, Pussy Riot wasn't asking for it. Putin is a reactionary leader who doesn't give a fuck about his people. He has no compunction about trampling other people's right. He's not Nobel Prize material.

And for the record, neither was Obama. I thought that him winning it was a travesty.

That's a pretty irrelevant factoid, considering that Pussy Riot was not raped. They were arrested for violating the law. Rape has nothing to do with this.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Not really, and in any case Assad has a fine chin. As a straight male I can't tell if he's attractive but since he has a super hot wife then I can deduce he must be fairly good looking.

Power is a potent aphrodisiac.


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:22 pm

Neoconstantius wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You know who says stuff like that? Rape apologists.

Nope, Pussy Riot wasn't asking for it. Putin is a reactionary leader who doesn't give a fuck about his people. He has no compunction about trampling other people's right. He's not Nobel Prize material.

And for the record, neither was Obama. I thought that him winning it was a travesty.

That's a pretty irrelevant factoid, considering that Pussy Riot was not raped. They were arrested for violating the law. Rape has nothing to do with this.


That's not why I used that analogy. Read again.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:23 pm

Wolfenium wrote:To a man who actively suppresses free speech, turns the government into a Russian roulette between him and his cronies, outlaws gays and invades breakway states like a boss, I don't think he deserves one. But given the comittee had already given one to Obama for presence alone, I wouldn't be surprised if Tsar Putin actually gets one.


So you admit at least that he is a boss.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:23 pm

Putin should win the Nobel Prize in Super-Villainy, for showing us that Bond Style Evil Geniuses don't have to hold the world to ransom with death rays or nukes for gold, they can instead rise to the top of a country through mostly legitimate political means and acquire control of a decent chunk of the world's nuclear arsenal without all that bother of having to worry about whether 007 is banging their mistress.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:24 pm

Being a leader of a major power pretty much automatically entails being a bastard.

That said, Putin doesn't deserve a Nobel peace prize. Neither does Obama. Really, being a national leader should pretty much automatically disqualify you from the running.
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Postby Aeken » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:24 pm

Neither of them deserve it.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:24 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:So since Russia was able to avert a war in Syria by standing up to the US of A, there are growing rumors that perhaps Vladimir Putin should deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2013/09/pr-campaign-gears-get-nobel-peace-prize-putin
He is clearly a wise leader and although he has some unflattering tendencies (like his attitude towards homosexuals) so did Obama (Drones, NSA, etc) and that didn't stop him from getting one or having said prize revoked.

I know it's a longshot, since the Nobel Committee is ideologically aligned with western values and is probably loath to give a prize to someone who so strongly opposes the liberal transatlantic power structure but it's worth speculating because he arguably is the most formidable statesman of our day.

He averted a war? He's been enabling the already existing war there. How about he brings Assad and the rebels to the conference table and brokers a real peace? That would be worth a Peace Prize.
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