Need a name wrote:Gah! You don't understand at all. Good bye.
See, that's something someone would say when they're not arguing.
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by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:38 pm
Need a name wrote:Skrewalkers wrote:
I particularly enjoy how they went from this:
Declaring the matter solved, to quickly shifting gears to:
"I don't have time to debate! I need three hours! I need to read more books! I don't have time to debate!"
when confronted with several reasons the matter is not so easily solved.
I really think this might be an atheist here pretending to be Christian to make Christians look bad.
Gah! You don't understand at all. Good bye.
by Skrewalkers » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:44 pm
With Teeth wrote:
You don't understand, but I won't tell you why!
by The Rich Port » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:44 pm
by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:44 pm
The Rich Port wrote:My philosophy professor told me philosophical questions aren't something you can solve. He had a Ph.D, so I trust him.
But, I'll give it a shot.
FUCKING DUH.
by Pandeeria » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:45 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Blasveck » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:46 pm
Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:46 pm
Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:46 pm
Blasveck wrote:Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
"A witty saying proves nothing."
-Voltaire
by The Rich Port » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:47 pm
by Pandeeria » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:47 pm
With Teeth wrote:Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
1: It did not come from Epicurus.
2: God can have morally sufficient reasons for allowing evil, making the logical problem of evil unsound.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Vazdania » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:47 pm
Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
I think this pretty much "answers" it.
by Smoya » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:48 pm
Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
I think this pretty much "answers" it.
by The Rich Port » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:49 pm
Vazdania wrote:Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
I think this pretty much "answers" it.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." ~Isaiah 45:7
by Pandeeria » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:49 pm
Smoya wrote:Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
I think this pretty much "answers" it.
Do the last time, he doesn't not control our lives. We are supposed to make the right decisions in life.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Smoya » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:51 pm
by Christmahanikwanzikah » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:51 pm
by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:52 pm
by The Rich Port » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:52 pm
Smoya wrote:Pandeeria wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~Epicurus
I think this pretty much "answers" it.
Do the last time, he doesn't not control our lives. We are supposed to make the right decisions in life.
by Jamessonia » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:52 pm
Prins Maurits wrote:This is a good question :
If God was completely good then he would want to stop all evil, if God was completely powerful then he could stop all evil, but evil exists....so does that mean that God is not completely good or not completely powerful, or does god not exist?
Please post your ideas about this question!
by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:52 pm
by Pandeeria » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:54 pm
With Teeth wrote:Pandeeria wrote:
I believe it was from Epicurus.
What morally sufficient reasons are there for allowing evil in the first place?
All that needs to be asserted is the modal possibility that morally sufficient reasons exist. As an omniscient being, god would understand more than we do. You have to show that gratuitous evil exists.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by With Teeth » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:57 pm
Pandeeria wrote:With Teeth wrote:
All that needs to be asserted is the modal possibility that morally sufficient reasons exist. As an omniscient being, god would understand more than we do. You have to show that gratuitous evil exists.
So just assume that he knows better than us? What of the fact that religion has no true supporting evidence?
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