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by KenKenpachi » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:09 am
by Voltairian Prospects » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:13 am
by Czardas » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:37 am
Natapoc wrote:If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.
by North Suran » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:52 am
Saint Jade IV wrote:I would really prefer if you did not refer to me as an ultra-authoritarian.
The above arguments are sufficient to restrict peoples' rights because the people in question are teenagers. They do not have the mental reasoning capacity of a fully grown adult, nor the reasoning capacity to see the consequences of their choices in the same way as an adult.
Neu Mitanni wrote:As for NS, his latest statement is grounded in ignorance and contrary to fact, much to the surprise of all NSGers.
Geniasis wrote:The War on Christmas
by Beaglese » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:13 am
by Kolpi » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:17 am
by Imperialist Reich » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:24 am
by Chetssaland » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:29 am
Ryadn wrote:Chetssaland wrote:Neo Art wrote:Natapoc wrote:Neo Art wrote:Natapoc wrote:What a hostile school environment I would have recommended you start calling him comrade, sing the Internationale (english lyrics so he would understand) during the pledge, and drawing hammers and sickle on all the work you turned in but it would probably have been dangerous for you to do so.
because nothing shows maturity like childish rebellion
You could call it maturity... or you could call it trying to inject humor and fun into a bad situation?
Intentionally antagonizing an authority figure rather than go through the necessary and proper channels?
No, I'm going to call it exactly what it is. Fucking childish.
Excuse me, sir/mam, but relax a little. He/she was just joking around and I always have a little fun messing with teachers. You don't need to be a zombie to be smart or mature.
And then you're shocked when they're not overjoyed to be in your wise presence. Shocking. You must have terrible burns on your hands from touching the stove so many times.
by Joannalandia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:37 am
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Brogavia wrote:Well there ya go. That's the moral to this story. If you don't listen to your parents, you'll get your legs blown off.
by Joannalandia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:39 am
Kolpi wrote:My third grade teacher showed the class two lines that weren't intersecting, but they were nowhere near parallel.
He said any two lines that were not intersecting were parallel. He was wrong.
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Brogavia wrote:Well there ya go. That's the moral to this story. If you don't listen to your parents, you'll get your legs blown off.
by Chetssaland » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:40 am
Joannalandia wrote:My second grade teacher taught all of us that human being inhale oxygen and exhale carbon monoxide. She then defended her point when several 2nd graders corrected her, by telling them to "stop questioning her and stand in the corner." ...She was a bad teacher.
by Drogensucht » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:00 am
by Linux and the X » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:05 am
Joannalandia wrote:Kolpi wrote:My third grade teacher showed the class two lines that weren't intersecting, but they were nowhere near parallel.
He said any two lines that were not intersecting were parallel. He was wrong.
Well in a way, this is correct. Geometrically speaking in 2 dimensions, lines continue forever from both ends. Thus, the only pair of lines that don't intersect SOMEWHERE are parallel lines. Line segments and rays on the other hand have end points, and it's possible for these to be neither intersecting nor parallel.
by Joannalandia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:11 am
Linux and the X wrote:Joannalandia wrote:Kolpi wrote:My third grade teacher showed the class two lines that weren't intersecting, but they were nowhere near parallel.
He said any two lines that were not intersecting were parallel. He was wrong.
Well in a way, this is correct. Geometrically speaking in 2 dimensions, lines continue forever from both ends. Thus, the only pair of lines that don't intersect SOMEWHERE are parallel lines. Line segments and rays on the other hand have end points, and it's possible for these to be neither intersecting nor parallel.
Only if they're both in the same plane.
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Brogavia wrote:Well there ya go. That's the moral to this story. If you don't listen to your parents, you'll get your legs blown off.
by Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:17 am
Joannalandia wrote:Linux and the X wrote:Joannalandia wrote:Kolpi wrote:My third grade teacher showed the class two lines that weren't intersecting, but they were nowhere near parallel.
He said any two lines that were not intersecting were parallel. He was wrong.
Well in a way, this is correct. Geometrically speaking in 2 dimensions, lines continue forever from both ends. Thus, the only pair of lines that don't intersect SOMEWHERE are parallel lines. Line segments and rays on the other hand have end points, and it's possible for these to be neither intersecting nor parallel.
Only if they're both in the same plane.
Hence 2 dimensions.
by Sierra Systems » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:23 am
Cabra West wrote:One of our teachers told us that humans need meat for a balanced diet...
by Tekania » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:28 am
Sierra Systems wrote:Cabra West wrote:One of our teachers told us that humans need meat for a balanced diet...
Funny story that... Buddy of mine took a class in college, bio class of some stripe if I recall. One project they were given was to design a feasible diet for someone that used absolutely no meat, and it had to work over a persons lifespan. EVERYONE in his class reached the conclusion that unless you consume something in the realm of three thousand calories a day, you'll eventually(about forty years after you start the veggie diet, depending how well you plan it) develop various nutritional deficiencies. Now, I'm sure this didn't take into account things like vitamin pills etc. but I just thought it was a funny story I'd share with the interwebs. Please do not ask me to make any explanations of any data involved. I'm only relating data as it was told to me. Hate on him or his teacher.
by Tungookska » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:39 am
Tretskivucia wrote:I was once told by my history teacher in an overview of this years syllabus:
"you don't really need to learn about Hitler, he's not important"
by Trippoli » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:48 am
Greater Americania wrote:United Marktoria wrote:I am glad I go to a public school where Religion is a no-no to teach. Because if I was in a Religion class, there would be daily arguments.
lol I'm from Texas and here, the schools have a bible study club.
I'm just gonna sit back and watch all the Atheists freak out at the above statement.
by Karsol » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:51 am
Trippoli wrote:Greater Americania wrote:United Marktoria wrote:I am glad I go to a public school where Religion is a no-no to teach. Because if I was in a Religion class, there would be daily arguments.
lol I'm from Texas and here, the schools have a bible study club.
I'm just gonna sit back and watch all the Atheists freak out at the above statement.
Or you guys can just secede.
by Arivada » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:55 am
by Wiztopia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:56 am
Saint Jade IV wrote:Natapoc wrote:South Norwega wrote:Not really. Case in point, school excursions. With uniforms students are readily identifiable, without they can just slip away into the crowd. Lack of uniforms makes truanting easier.Wiztopia wrote:Some of it obviously yes is inappropriate. A lot of you mentioned isn't though. You should look at countries WITHOUT dress codes. The only reason SOME students wear what you said is because they normally have to wear a crappy uniform. School uniforms are just crap.Wiztopia wrote:If it's on their own notebook then you have no reason to complain.
Oh yes (she?) bloody does. Teachers are the rulers of classrooms. If you can't conform to their rules, you're likely to not be able to conform to society's rules. As Saint Jade said, normal workers don't cover their work folders and so on with obscenities. Why should students have leeway in that regard?
So many ultra authoritarians on this forum. Even if your arguments were true why would any of these reasons be sufficient to restrict a persons rights?
Teachers should not be the "Rulers of the classroom" what better way to train a child how to best behave in a so called democracy then to raise them in a dictatorship of a classroom right? And you wonder why they grow up to have no understanding or desire to participate in society.
This is the kind of logic the western world fought bloody revolutions to topple.
I would really prefer if you did not refer to me as an ultra-authoritarian.
The above arguments are sufficient to restrict peoples' rights because the people in question are teenagers. They do not have the mental reasoning capacity of a fully grown adult, nor the reasoning capacity to see the consequences of their choices in the same way as an adult.
Furthermore, teachers are the rulers of their classroom in much the same way that a supervisor is the ruler of their team. They enforce the rules of that company, organisation, whatever. Don't like it - find another job. Or in this case school. As I frequently tell my students.
Uniforms enable us as teachers to enforce a level of discipline. They also provide us with a distance from the teenagers in our care that reinforces our position as authority figures. One of the things I tell my students when they complain about having to wear a uniform when teachers don't is that when they have done 4 years of uni, they can come back to school wearing their own clothes, and work in crappy conditions with little pay and less recognition for the job that they do. But at least they can wear what they like.
Students have far more rights than I had working in a call centre where even my bathroom breaks were timed and restricted. I do believe that real-world experience benefits me as a teacher, as I have something to fall back on and justify my enforcement of the rules with - experience that tells me the rules I am enforcing are no different to the rules that many of these students will find when working in the real world.
Students have ample opportunity through representation on school councils equal to that of parents and teachers, student councils and other committees. They also can organise themselves if they choose to effect change. And there are always teachers willing to help them do that. When they are mature and sensible about it. When they simply whine about the unfairness of it all because they can't buy coke from the train station but the teachers can, they simply betray the reasons why such rules are in place. Their own immaturity.
by Hydesland » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:58 am
Wiztopia wrote:You must be like a 50 year old bitter teacher then. What the hell kind of discipline can a uniform actually enforce? There's really no real reason to even have a stupid rule such as that. Also that coke thing is incredibly stupid. Who the fuck makes a rule such as that?
by Augarundus » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:00 am
Jingoist Hippostan wrote:In high school, my Advanced Placement US Government teacher told me that the United States was a Christian nation. When I pointed out that many of the founding fathers were atheists or deists, she told me that Deism was a sect of Christianity.
So, share the stupid shit you've been told by teachers over your life.
Deism (\ˈdi:iz(ə)m\[1] or \ˈdē-ˌi-zəm\)[2] is a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, and that this (and religious truth in general) can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without the need for either faith or organized religion.
by Astralsideria » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:06 am
Imperialist Reich wrote:My maths teacher tried to say that a square was the same as a circle. Happily - he dosnt work at school any more.
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