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by Northwest Slobovia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:17 am
by Shofercia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:18 am
Atelia wrote:Being both a Russian and a Greek is fun. I get to support two unpopular opinions yay!
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Homophobia permeates Russian society like a highly-permeating thing.
San Splendido wrote:I fear having a group of "others" to point your populace's frustration and anger at is rather convenient for dictators, so not much will be done about it.
Rhodesi wrote:I would like to remind people that these groups are vigilantes, not backed by the Russian government.
Saiwania wrote:Gay people in general, aren't bothering any heterosexuals and they shouldn't be targeted for bullying and abuse. If the Russian authorities cared more about civil rights, they could easily do more of an effort to put a stop to this.
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:State of the Church wrote:
The Church doesn't exist anymore since the '60.
The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest Church in the entirety of Russia, with 74% of the Russian population being a part of it. Like any Orthodox Church, it strictly opposes homosexuality, and is thus unquestionably the main cause of homophobia in the Russian Federation.
by Ultrapia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:32 am
by Shofercia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:37 am
Mkuki wrote:Russian Neo-Nazis. One of the greatest possible paradoxes in history. On par with a Jewish Nazi.
Surfistan wrote:Digusting, disturbing and not at all surprising from the political hell hole called the Russian Federation.
Oneracon wrote:Saiwania wrote:Gay people in general, aren't bothering any heterosexuals and they shouldn't be targeted for bullying and abuse. If the Russian authorities cared more about civil rights, they could easily do more of an effort to put a stop to this.
Russian authorities... caring about civil rights?
I really hope that was sarcastic.
The Huskar Social Union wrote:State of the Church wrote:
Why? Russian doesn't mean communist.
No, but Russia (Along with the rest of the former USSR) was one of the primary forces that resulted in Nazi Germany's destruction. Not to mention the fact that they suffer atrocious losses at the hands of Nazi Gemrany. Now they have one of the largest groups of Neo-Nazis on the planet.
Mkuki wrote:State of the Church wrote:
They where communists. They deserved it.
Let me make one thing absolutely clear, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape is never, ever okay. It doesn't matter who the victims are. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is. It isn't okay, it should never be okay, and I will never consider it okay.
State of the Church wrote:Let me make one thing absolutely clear, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape is never, ever okay. It doesn't matter who the victims are. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is. It isn't okay, it should never be okay, and I will never consider it okay.
The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.
Albul wrote:EDIT: Let's get back to the topic at hand. The harassment of homosexual teens in Russia is allowed. What is your opinion?
Gross Skartphiche wrote:Regnum Dominae wrote:The gay community in Russia cares.
And they're Russian too so it's not like they count either.
Fuck those inbred morons. They have neo fucking nazis running riot over there. Nazis. In Russia. The same ideology that murdered 10 - 20 million of them. And they still love Stalin. The think Putin is alright too. Fuck.
Let 'em burn while I laugh.
by Oneracon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:43 am
Shofercia wrote:Saiwania wrote:Gay people in general, aren't bothering any heterosexuals and they shouldn't be targeted for bullying and abuse. If the Russian authorities cared more about civil rights, they could easily do more of an effort to put a stop to this.
Their attacks against Gays started recently. The Russian Government aren't mind readers. That said, I fully expect the government to deal with these terrorists promptly.
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by Shofercia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:48 am
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Cosmicus wrote:No, it was a random backstab on the USSR by the Germans, who were both pretty good friends before (non-aggression pact, and so on).
Actually, the Nazis were well aware that the USSR was going to invade anyway, so they decided to invade the USSR on the basis that their strategy was entirely offensive.
They couldn't, and indeed didn't, withstand an invasion from the USSR. Their only chance of victory was an invasion, which very nearly succeeded.
Also they weren't "pretty good friends" - beyond the façade, they detested each other with a passion.
Jormengand wrote:Russia still contains some idiots. Homosexuals are still abused for their sexuality. News at fucking eleven.
Hornesia wrote:Russian Nazis, eh? Think it's time for some gay Russian Inglorious Bastards.
by Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:48 am
by Geilinor » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:50 am
Soviet Russia Republic wrote:Oneracon wrote:
Of course not, "teh gheys" are all too convenient of a target for Putin to distract his populace with so they don't know how badly everything else is going in the country.
Yeah! I'm sure it's very distracting to living standards that have greatly expanded and brought about a far bigger middle class, an economy that has become the 5th biggest in the world by PPP, social programs that have received huge increases over the years, unemployment brought to very low levels, stability,people living longer, etc.
by Shofercia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:51 am
Oneracon wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Their attacks against Gays started recently. The Russian Government aren't mind readers. That said, I fully expect the government to deal with these terrorists promptly.
First, it's gay people. Not "gays".
Second, given the Russian government's attitude towards gay people (including allowing the arrest and detention of foreign citizens under their draconian "gay propaganda" law) indicates that they don't really care. Consider that this video was filmed in a public park in broad daylight, and no one did anything.
by The Carlisle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:52 am
by Oneracon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:53 am
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by Northwest Slobovia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:54 am
The Carlisle wrote:Utterly disgusting. I hope Russian authorities move against these terrorists before they do anything worse to the LGBT community.
by The Carlisle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:55 am
by Northwest Slobovia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:56 am
by Geilinor » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:58 am
Oneracon wrote:Herrebrugh wrote:
As a gay person, I didn't know this
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. By morphing an adjective into a noun you remove the word "people", and passively strip the group you're referring to of their humanity.
It's become the buzzword of anti-gay groups, because it's a lot easier to hate a group of anonymous "gays" then a group of living, breathing complex human beings.
/minirant
by Oneracon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:59 am
Geilinor wrote:Oneracon wrote:
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. By morphing an adjective into a noun you remove the word "people", and passively strip the group you're referring to of their humanity.
It's become the buzzword of anti-gay groups, because it's a lot easier to hate a group of anonymous "gays" then a group of living, breathing complex human beings.
/minirant
The word "gays" is usually used by people who are against homosexuality.
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by Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:01 pm
by The Carlisle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:04 pm
by Oneracon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:05 pm
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by Shofercia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:16 pm
The Misotheist Reich wrote:I have watched the film. I have concluded it was a fabrication. Why would they take video evidence of this action. It makes no sense. This video, and indeed whole story is nothing but libel. The only people who would want visual evidence of these actions are the enimies of National Socialism.
Agritum wrote:Anyways, is the Russian Government even trying to take some sort of provision against this shit, or they are just letting it slide?
Wisconsin9 wrote:The Misotheist Reich wrote:I have watched the film. I have concluded it was a fabrication. Why would they take video evidence of this action. It makes no sense. This video, and indeed whole story is nothing but libel. The only people who would want visual evidence of these actions are the enimies of National Socialism.
Because Russia's so fucked up they wouldn't get arrested, and probably so they could brag to their pals.
Oneracon wrote:I think he's just letting it slide (if not covertly supporting it).
Munrova wrote:The best part about this is how the Nazis are trying to fight pedophilia, not by attacking the pedophiles, but by attacking potential victims. Nazi logic is "best" logic.
Cilistia Novaren wrote:Okay, wait a minute. Does this mean that Russia of all places openly allows Nazi groups to be a thing and is more tolerating of them than gay people?
Albul wrote:State of the Church wrote:
The topic is the freemasonic cultural and social dominance of the world, which created the homosexual archetipic scum.
So a homosexual is made by society? Then, shouldn't these neo-Nazis target everyone since, by your logic, everyone has the potential to be a homosexual?
Oneracon wrote:Soviet Russia Republic wrote:
Yeah! I'm sure it's very distracting to living standards that have greatly expanded and brought about a far bigger middle class, an economy that has become the 5th biggest in the world by PPP, social programs that have received huge increases over the years, unemployment brought to very low levels, stability,people living longer, etc.
Wait...that's almost as silly as expecting that somehow anything to do with gays would be distracting people from noticing if their lives were worse.
Violence, terrorism, ethnic strife, mortality among Russian males have still increased 61% since 1991, electoral corruption...
Old Tyrannia wrote:I'm not sure what there is to say other than "fuck Nazism." All the more ironic that these people claim to be protecting children from abuse... By luring fifteen-year-olds to secluded places to abuse them. Wonderful logic you have there, gentlemen! I highly doubt, however, that this behaviour is endorsed by the Russian Orthodox Church. Homosexuality is considered a sin, but the Church is opposed to any violent or discriminatory behaviour towards homosexuals: http://rt.com/news/russian-church-accepts-gays/. Rather, the Church advocates an understanding approach- "hate the sin, love the sinner" being the appropriate biblical quote.
This is not religiously motivated.
Aquafireland wrote:Why do they beat them up?
Blasveck wrote:Just fuck Russia.
First, they ban "gay propaganda"
Now, gay teens are beaten.
What next? Executions?
Russia, you disgust me.
Geilinor wrote:Oneracon wrote:
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. By morphing an adjective into a noun you remove the word "people", and passively strip the group you're referring to of their humanity.
It's become the buzzword of anti-gay groups, because it's a lot easier to hate a group of anonymous "gays" then a group of living, breathing complex human beings.
/minirant
The word "gays" is usually used by people who are against homosexuality.
by Oneracon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:20 pm
Shofercia wrote:Oneracon wrote:
It's been four days... where is any response from any level of Russian government or law enforcement?
Probably gathering evidence, so that they can arrest all members of the group, or at least most of them, not just the ones who were on camera. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and see what I can do on RuNet to fight this bullshit. Terrorism is unacceptable. Period.
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by Jamzmania » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:34 pm
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
by Agritum » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:45 pm
Jamzmania wrote:This is... horrible. Those responsible should be arrested and sent to years of hard manual labor in the Russian gulags.
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