The World Cup Discussion Thread (OOC, version III)

[Saugeais]

You do know you could have put that all in one post, rather than triple posting ??

eh... too lazy to do it.

Being old doesn't make you exempt from DA RULES, mate.

[Licentiapacisterra]

You do know you could have put that all in one post, rather than triple posting ??

eh... too lazy to do it.

Good to know you're looking after yourself, and spamming all over the thread because you can't be arsed following the rules.

[Europa Brittania]

to show these whippersnappers how the game's really played.

It turns out we did actually play each other all the way back in World Cup 3.

Europa Brittania 1 - 0 Alasdair I Frosticus

Fancy that.

What, with dice and pencils you mean? Grandad you're so funny! (Apologies if it's Grandma, at your age it's difficult to tell...)

Now, let's be fair....

I'm the last person to have actually used dice to scorinate a WC; Europa Brittania had nothing to do with it.

Now get off my lawn.

Those were the days. World Cup Three was the third-best world cup ever (After World Cup 9 and 11 ... For no particular reason at all.)

So all the legends are coming back to the WC. Awesome.

One question though, is Europa Brittania in the rankings? And if they aren't could they be in the BoF?

I don't think EB ever took part in a BoF tournament ... But that'll mostly be because it was in its infancy when EB was tearing up the pitch with woollen socks and pig's bladder balls.

I don't even remember the last World Cup EB participated in. I'm fairly sure we participated in the first seventeen ... After that, it gets a bit fuzzy. It all gets a bit fuzzy.

[Audioslavia]

The trusty-yet-currently-locked NSwiki has you participating in World Cup 17 but not WC18. I didn't check any after that.

The wiki also tells me that we've played each other at least twice. A 1-1 draw in the first round of WC4 and a 0-1 defeat for us in the second round of World Cup 11 which means, after giving you a warm welcome back to the fold, I must swear vengeance in the name of our ancient ancestors.

[Gaveo]

It turns out we did actually play each other all the way back in World Cup 3.

Europa Brittania 1 - 0 Alasdair I Frosticus

Fancy that.




Now, let's be fair....

I'm the last person to have actually used dice to scorinate a WC; Europa Brittania had nothing to do with it.

Now get off my lawn.

Those were the days. World Cup Three was the third-best world cup ever (After World Cup 9 and 11 ... For no particular reason at all.)

So all the legends are coming back to the WC. Awesome.

One question though, is Europa Brittania in the rankings? And if they aren't could they be in the BoF?

I don't think EB ever took part in a BoF tournament ... But that'll mostly be because it was in its infancy when EB was tearing up the pitch with woollen socks and pig's bladder balls.

I don't even remember the last World Cup EB participated in. I'm fairly sure we participated in the first seventeen ... After that, it gets a bit fuzzy. It all gets a bit fuzzy.

I'm sure you'll do great in the BoF (if you decide to enter) and the WC in whole.

[Andossa Se Mitrin Vega]

Wow! These guys were legends when I first started way back in WC25. Nice to know that LE, Arch and Audio will finally get some company in that small brick building with the pasty, baby-shit green walls and fake flowers on the dining room tables. may have to hire some new nurses to help with the bedpans...

seriously though, welcome back to all of you.

[Neo Lemmitania]

All these centenarians are scaring me.

Make that bicentenarians. Heck, I think it's been over 200 years since Lemmitania even participated in a WC. Glad to see a few other 'old-timers' have chosen this moment to return as well! And I look forward to RPing with the new blood. Perusing the threads, it looks to me as if maybe the overall level of play has risen over the years. We shall all be challenged to keep up. Especially with our arthritis and failing memories.

[Farfadillis]

All these centenarians are scaring me.

Make that bicentenarians. Heck, I think it's been over 200 years since Lemmitania even participated in a WC. Glad to see a few other 'old-timers' have chosen this moment to return as well! And I look forward to RPing with the new blood. Perusing the threads, it looks to me as if maybe the overall level of play has risen over the years. We shall all be challenged to keep up. Especially with our arthritis and failing memories.

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

[The Archregimancy]

Moving on slightly....

Could the likely hosts of the next World Cup take a moment to clarify the likely status of the Holy Empire [AIF] should sign-ups end in the next couple of days.

I note two points from the bid thread:

(Should it become clear that more than 180 nations will seek entry, we have prepared additional extreme solutions that incorporate single-round-robin schedules with balanced home-vs-away pairings. For example, 15 groups of 15 would accommodate 227 teams playing 14 matches across 15 matchdays with no playoffs. We are committed to a policy of inclusion in all circumstances.)

In the event that the hosts must trim the field to make a workable format, after first seeking volunteers then puppets will be trimmed first in strict reverse order of entry (last in, first out).

I'm slightly slightly concerned that the Holy Empire might be subject to trimming; and given the effort I put in to RPing with both nations (something which, let's be honest, can't be said for all puppets), I'd prefer not to have to choose which one to enter. The last time that happened was, I think, WC26.

On the other hand, the likely hosts' criteria on trimming are clear if trimming becomes necessary, so this isn't a complaint; it's a request for clarification over whether they think trimming will become necessary or not.

[Alasdair I Frosticus]

Make that bicentenarians. Heck, I think it's been over 200 years since Lemmitania even participated in a WC. Glad to see a few other 'old-timers' have chosen this moment to return as well! And I look forward to RPing with the new blood. Perusing the threads, it looks to me as if maybe the overall level of play has risen over the years. We shall all be challenged to keep up. Especially with our arthritis and failing memories.

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

<Turns on hearing aid>

<Waves stick around in the air>

Listen, sonny, anyone who didn't participate in World Cups 1-4 is one of those new-fangled noob-things you youngsters are always going on about.

Why, you'll not credit this, and I'm not being funny by pointing it out, but back in World Cup 2, I remember Tanah Burung and Al Quds telling me that...

<Falls asleep; snores>

[Audioslavia]

Verily, the comparatively unversed shall vacate one's anterior courtyard.

[Gaveo]

Make that bicentenarians. Heck, I think it's been over 200 years since Lemmitania even participated in a WC. Glad to see a few other 'old-timers' have chosen this moment to return as well! And I look forward to RPing with the new blood. Perusing the threads, it looks to me as if maybe the overall level of play has risen over the years. We shall all be challenged to keep up. Especially with our arthritis and failing memories.

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

I don't want to know what am I.

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

<Turns on hearing aid>

<Waves stick around in the air>

Listen, sonny, anyone who didn't participate in World Cups 1-4 is one of those new-fangled noob-things you youngsters are always going on about.

Why, you'll not credit this, and I'm not being funny by pointing it out, but back in World Cup 2, I remember Tanah Burung and Al Quds telling me that...

<Falls asleep; snores>

Oddly enough the name Al Quds always interested me... Mr. Frosticus, what was Quds like?

[Eastfield Lodge]

Make that bicentenarians. Heck, I think it's been over 200 years since Lemmitania even participated in a WC. Glad to see a few other 'old-timers' have chosen this moment to return as well! And I look forward to RPing with the new blood. Perusing the threads, it looks to me as if maybe the overall level of play has risen over the years. We shall all be challenged to keep up. Especially with our arthritis and failing memories.

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

Cass only predates me by a few cycles, so I must be borderline old blood...

Actually, don't put me in that category, I'm too young to be old.

[Europa Brittania]

I can only speak for my perspective, but the "banter" that World Cup players indulge in nowadays wasn't as devleoped way-back-when. I distinctly recall the first few World Cups were quite isolationist; not a huge amount of interaction between players outside their results and roleplaying their affects.

Things become much more fun thereafter.

Since I've no experience with BoF, anyone care to give me a quick refresher on it?

[Eastfield Lodge]

I can only speak for my perspective, but the "banter" that World Cup players indulge in nowadays wasn't as devleoped way-back-when. I distinctly recall the first few World Cups were quite isolationist; not a huge amount of interaction between players outside their results and roleplaying their affects.

Things become much more fun thereafter.

Since I've no experience with BoF, anyone care to give me a quick refresher on it?

Basically, a tournament just for those who are new to the setup, so provides those teams with ranking points and RP experience before qualifying. No team has KPB points going into it, so it's entirely determined by RP and randomness.

[United Gordonopia]

I can only speak for my perspective, but the "banter" that World Cup players indulge in nowadays wasn't as devleoped way-back-when. I distinctly recall the first few World Cups were quite isolationist; not a huge amount of interaction between players outside their results and roleplaying their affects.

Things become much more fun thereafter.

Since I've no experience with BoF, anyone care to give me a quick refresher on it?

Basically what EL said above. The requirements for entry are that you can't have entered a WCC sanctioned BoF before (the first BoF wasn't an official tournament, so as long as you haven't participated in one, even if you're a returning elder, you can join to get a small rankings boost before qualifying), you have to have zero KPB at the start of the cycle, and when you signup for the world cup, you must indicate directly that you're also signing up for the BoF (we won't just assume).

[Valanora]

Moving on slightly....

Could the likely hosts of the next World Cup take a moment to clarify the likely status of the Holy Empire [AIF] should sign-ups end in the next couple of days.

I note two points from the bid thread:

(Should it become clear that more than 180 nations will seek entry, we have prepared additional extreme solutions that incorporate single-round-robin schedules with balanced home-vs-away pairings. For example, 15 groups of 15 would accommodate 227 teams playing 14 matches across 15 matchdays with no playoffs. We are committed to a policy of inclusion in all circumstances.)

In the event that the hosts must trim the field to make a workable format, after first seeking volunteers then puppets will be trimmed first in strict reverse order of entry (last in, first out).

I'm slightly slightly concerned that the Holy Empire might be subject to trimming; and given the effort I put in to RPing with both nations (something which, let's be honest, can't be said for all puppets), I'd prefer not to have to choose which one to enter. The last time that happened was, I think, WC26.

On the other hand, the likely hosts' criteria on trimming are clear if trimming becomes necessary, so this isn't a complaint; it's a request for clarification over whether they think trimming will become necessary or not.

Regarding this, as there is of right now 198/9 (one entry looks disputed from what I can tell) nations currently signed up and no CTEs, we're looking at 202 as the max number of entrants to be our number, though 182 is still our more desirable one. Anymore and it's a long ways off to a workable number, as even 202 has us debating the right format to use. Given that, if it comes to curtailing, we'll look at those puppets and nations last signed up first, with priority of being retained to obviously long standing members and puppets, after asking for a volunteering of withdrawls. It's not something we really want to do, but the sheer size, which will be a record, of this WC is like to force our hand.

[Qazox]

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

I don't want to know what am I.

A young whippersnapper. Now I ain't as Old as Old man Frosticus over there; but back in my day, newcomers were expected to lose 5-0 or worse every game for their first 5 world cups, and only after they passed the secret initiation test were they even allowed to score a goal against a team that competed in the first 10 WCs. Now we get teams fresh outta the BoF qualifying, kids these days.

[New Montreal States]

Now I ain't as Old as Old man Frosticus over there; but back in my day, newcomers were expected to lose 5-0 or worse every game for their first 5 world cups, and only after they passed the secret initiation test were they even allowed to score a goal against a team that competed in the first 10 WCs. Now we get teams fresh outta the BoF qualifying, kids these days.

I remember back in World Cup 10 they had the RP bonus work backwards for the first half of qualifiers, just so that Cockbill Street and I would lose every match, and the only thing the two of us were allowed to say the whole time was "Please, sir, may I have some more?"

Now they'd probably hand me a bag full of Baptism of Fire KPB points and some candy. Feh. It's making us all soft.

[Astograth]

I'll just take this opportunity to put together the WC history series I've co-authored in the past, for ease of future reference. Credit shared with Kagdazka & Pazhujebu (now known as The Pazhujeb Islands) and Polar Islandstates/Ossidiacqua.

World Cups 1 to 10
World Cups 11 to 18
World Cups 19 to 30: The Rise of Atlantian Oceania
World Cups 31 to 39
World Cups 40 to 47: A Duel of Two
World Cups 48 to 51
World Cups 52 to 54: New Challengers Rise
World Cup 55
World Cup 56
World Cup 57
World Cup 58
World Cup 59
World Cup 60

[Free South Califas]

Wow, so I'm finally back from my hellish cross-town move (which continues) and online again! I've missed the IBC, one UICA cycle (oops, sorry Commune-PDT.v2) and the WBC group stage, but in my down time, I've done a lot of work on my fiction writing. I'm currently writing a story which explains my absence from UICA, which will be posted for the WBC playoffs and then (most likely immediately, I'd imagine) moved over to the next WCQ.

I'll be pretty busy, but if I get the chance, I'll try to pull up the applications to the manager position from the past and potentially give them another try at the Califan reins.

I suggest with NS Wiki locked, a google doc would be the best place to keep it.

Frankly, one should keep one's NS information in a google or local document anyway. The level of anxiety Taeshan is now feeling, can be avoided next time. If you rely on NSWiki, download the code from your current pages and add to that locally, then paste it over the articles when you can edit it again. This has the bonus of, if necessary, helping the community migrate to another site, perhaps its own, without having to adapt its content. (Just advice in humble solidarity - somebody else might have a better way than I, but I felt I should share.)

"It means I can, at least for a while, stop the two regions' actual space-time coordinates from matching even though they're sharing that ordinary three-dimensional sphere, so it'll seem to most of the residents as if nothing's wrong and the ordinary flexible mobial spatial relationship between the two's been maintained; only the higher technology or supernatural nations will likely notice anything's happened - though it might be possible for individuals or objects to accidentally shift immediately from one region to another if they hit the right vibrational modulation..."

Would that work for people? That offers mechanisms both for people cheerfully ignoring me and for people to engage if they want to - though there's scope for plenty of fine-tuning.

I like that a lot! This story could also help me out with my corner I wrote myself into concerning my last RP line - Syndicatian Intelligence rescued an ancient artefact that can control the weather, but they still haven't got it to work... Maybe the physiotherapist could come and have a poke around with his sonic stethascope?

Isn't that what a quantum spanner's for?

(gotta catch up more, but don't wanna lose this page if firefox crashes...and I never remember to check drafts)

[Taeshan]

Most of us have migrated before to wikistates and then came back later to nswiki when its problem was fixed, ie bigger server and all.

Now its not necessarily a problem its just i like having detailed places where i can look at stuff and have all my history in order, and in an easily readable place.

[Cassadaigua]

New blood? I thought the likes of ASMV, ESF, Star, Krytie, Cass, etc. were old blood. Then what the heck am I?

Very flattering!
But I don't belong in the same sentence as them when it comes to experience! I began in WC 43.

[Felix]

I don't want to know what am I.

A young whippersnapper. Now I ain't as Old as Old man Frosticus over there; but back in my day, newcomers were expected to lose 5-0 or worse every game for their first 5 world cups, and only after they passed the secret initiation test were they even allowed to score a goal against a team that competed in the first 10 WCs. Now we get teams fresh outta the BoF qualifying, kids these days.

Do you want me to get off your lawn now?

[Valanora]

A lost elf somewhere stuck between the founders and newblood whimpers merrily about the benefits of immortality and wisdom but the failing form of luck!