The North Korea Juche Songun Anti-Imperialist Megathread

[Herador]

Chinese ramp up military activity near NK border
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00683.html

Huh, wasn't expecting that to happen.

[The Mizarian Empire]

They have. It's called the Pakistani government.

Pakistan hates Al-Qaeda, though.

Or, rather, they hate the Pakistani branch of Al-Qaeda. They're sort of neutral about the other branches, except when it comes to using them to troll the US.

Further correction, the actual government of Pakistan probably hates all branches of Al-Qaeda. The ISI, on the other hand, likes having them around to use as proxies to troll the US.

My only problem with this is that is regardless of whether or not Osama bin Laden was still working with Al-Qaeda (or was simply a face for the organization), he was still less than 2 miles from Pakistan's equivalent of West Point.

Osama bin Laden's compound, known locally as the Waziristan Haveli (Urdu: وزیرستان حویلی‎; haveli means "mansion" and Waziristan is a region in Pakistan), was the safe house in which Osama bin Laden was hiding when he was killed. The structure was located at the end of a dirt road just 0.8 miles (1.3 km) southwest of the Pakistan Military Academy in Bilal Town, Abbottabad, Pakistan.

I have a hard time buying that Pakistan hates them when the world's public enemy #1 was literally right on their doorstep.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Pakistan hates Al-Qaeda, though.

Or, rather, they hate the Pakistani branch of Al-Qaeda. They're sort of neutral about the other branches, except when it comes to using them to troll the US.

Further correction, the actual government of Pakistan probably hates all branches of Al-Qaeda. The ISI, on the other hand, likes having them around to use as proxies to troll the US.

My only problem with this is that is regardless of whether or not Osama bin Laden was still working with Al-Qaeda (or was simply a face for the organization), he was still less than 2 miles from Pakistan's equivalent of West Point.

Osama bin Laden's compound, known locally as the Waziristan Haveli (Urdu: وزیرستان حویلی‎; haveli means "mansion" and Waziristan is a region in Pakistan), was the safe house in which Osama bin Laden was hiding when he was killed. The structure was located at the end of a dirt road just 0.8 miles (1.3 km) southwest of the Pakistan Military Academy in Bilal Town, Abbottabad, Pakistan.

I have a hard time buying that Pakistan hates them when the world's public enemy #1 was literally right on their doorstep.

The thing is, in the Pakistani government, the left had not only doesn't know what the right hand is up to, it's actually actively trying to kill the right hand. And vice-versa.

[Person012345]

>Implying that North Korea (I assume we're talking about football now) isn't.

North Korea is the best nation besides Bhutan.

Bhutan is better because they pretend that the US does not exist. If all could do the same.

I'm not sure I understand how that affects their football playing abilities.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

So is North Korea going to attack or not?

No.

I'm almost disappointed.
I've been sick and tired these last couple of months of everyone going? "Korea? lawl. ovr in 5 mins, all glory to murrrrrica"
I almost wanted the war to happen just so the Koreans could shatter this false fucking allusion people have gotten over all low-intensity wars since 1991.

Al-Qaeda could probably build a better nuke than North Korea.

They have. It's called the Pakistani government.

The Russians supposedly lost about a hundred of their "Demolition Mines" decades ago though, I've always advocated you'd do better to worry about those.

They have. It's called the Pakistani government.

Pakistan hates Al-Qaeda, though.

Or, rather, they hate the Pakistani branch of Al-Qaeda. They're sort of neutral about the other branches, except when it comes to using them to troll the US.

Further correction, the actual government of Pakistan probably hates all branches of Al-Qaeda. The ISI, on the other hand, likes having them around to use as proxies to troll the US.

As studies of British, American and Russian nuclear personnel should probably tell you, the goals and motivations of military nuclear personnel often may not align with those of their government.

I have a hard time buying that Pakistan hates them when the world's public enemy #1 was literally right on their doorstep.

Again, this implies the Pakistani government is A) a monolith of opinion and perspective and that B) their military, nuclear personnel and intelligence share the opinions of the majority of their government, even if with each other.
Something that a cursory glance over the west will tell you never happens.

[Lahuland]

Live from North Korean TV (KCTV):
http://tvmaniac.client.jp/asia/kp001.html

[Arumdaum]

Live from North Korean TV (KCTV):
http://tvmaniac.client.jp/asia/kp001.html

KCTV LIVE YES

How often do they do this?

[Arumdaum]

No.

I'm almost disappointed.
I've been sick and tired these last couple of months of everyone going? "Korea? lawl. ovr in 5 mins, all glory to murrrrrica"
I almost wanted the war to happen just so the Koreans could shatter this false fucking allusion people have gotten over all low-intensity wars since 1991.

Blargh, if war started out, it'd be the worst thing ever since my family runs a business right on the border.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I'm almost disappointed.
I've been sick and tired these last couple of months of everyone going? "Korea? lawl. ovr in 5 mins, all glory to murrrrrica"
I almost wanted the war to happen just so the Koreans could shatter this false fucking allusion people have gotten over all low-intensity wars since 1991.

Blargh, if war started out, it'd be the worst thing ever since my family runs a business right on the border.

Like I said, I don't actually want there to be war.
I just want (admittedly, mostly American children) to lose this fucking superiority complex they have of the American military.

[Alien Space Bats]

The Russians supposedly lost about a hundred of their "Demolition Mines" decades ago though, I've always advocated you'd do better to worry about those.

"Madam, I'm ADM?"

<pause>

Fortunately, they'll have all lost their punch due to the radioactive decay of key boosting components. In fact, that probably happened before the year 2000.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I'm not certain that's going to worry whoever has their hands on them currently. Still a major propaganda thing if they ever point it out. No-one'd let any administration today go "it won't work because decay" with regards to a non-state-controlled nuclear weapon.
People barely accept that with regards to Talib Cold War-era SAMs.

Who knows, if they have a number of them, they might try and smush them together to force criticality.

[Lahuland]

Live from North Korean TV (KCTV):
http://tvmaniac.client.jp/asia/kp001.html

KCTV LIVE YES

How often do they do this?

On air: 17:00-23:00 Pyongyang Time. If it fails to connect, try this one:
http://tv.truelife.com/content/107878

[Tellingus]

tl;dr

North Korea opening it's mouth, barkering, but not doing anything at all.

What do you expect?

[Altito Asmoro]

tl;dr

North Korea opening it's mouth, barkering, but not doing anything at all.

What do you expect?

Barking!

[The God-Realm]

North Korea is the best nation besides Bhutan.

Bhutan is better because they pretend that the US does not exist. If all could do the same.

I'm not sure I understand how that affects their football playing abilities.

Sports are irrelevant.

[Heavenly Peace]

According to the South Korean Defence Ministry North Korea has fired three short-range missiles off its east coast... And we had thought that fatty Kim was just trolling.

Report: North Korea launches short-range missiles
By CNN Staff
May 18, 2013 -- Updated 0832 GMT (1632 HKT)

(CNN) -- North Korea launched three short-range guided missiles into the sea off the Korean Peninsula's east coast Saturday, South Korea's semi-official news agency Yonhap cited the South Korean Defense Ministry as saying.
The ministry said it had detected two launches in the morning, followed by another in the afternoon, Yonhap reported.
It said the country has beefed up monitoring on North Korea and is maintaining a high-level of readiness to deal with any risky developments.
According to the Arms Control Association, a U.S.-based organization, short-range guided missiles are generally classified as those traveling less than 1,000 kilometers (about 620 miles.)
Tensions in the region had eased in recent days since a fraught period last month that included near daily North Korean threats of war.
U.S. and South Korean officials feared at that time that Kim Jong Un's regime was planning to carry out a test launch of longer-range ballistic missiles, believed to be Musudans. The South Korean government says they have a maximum range of 3,500 kilometers (2,175 miles).
The tensions flared after the North's long-range rocket launch in December and underground nuclear test in February, both of which were widely condemned.
Pyongyang's fiery rhetoric intensified in March as the U.N. Security Council voted to tighten sanctions on the regime following the nuclear test.
Annual U.S.-South Korean military drills in South Korea also fueled the North's anger, especially when the United States carried out displays of strength that included nuclear-capable B2 stealth bombers.

[Olivaero]

According to the South Korean Defence Ministry North Korea has fired three short-range missiles off its east coast... And we had thought that fatty Kim was just trolling.

South Korea says North Korea fires 3 short-range guided missiles into its eastern waters
Published May 18, 2013
Associated Press

SEOUL, South Korea – South Korea says North Korea has fired three short-range guided missiles into its eastern waters. Pyongyang routinely test-launches such missiles.
Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok says the North fired two missiles Saturday morning and another in the afternoon. He says the North's intent was unclear.
In March, North Korea tested two short-range missiles off its east coast.
U.S. officials say North Korea recently withdrew two mid-range missiles believed to be capable of reaching Guam after moving them to the east coast earlier this year.
The launches of short-range missiles come amid signs of diplomacy after weeks of warlike threats from North Korea.

Well done... he hit the sea?

[The Corparation]

So a few routine tests of short range missiles? We should care why?

[Xanthal]

As your own source notes, this sort of thing happens a lot. I'll be concerned the day they actually shoot at someone.

[Luveria]

So a few routine tests of short range missiles? We should care why?

Especially when:

Pyongyang routinely test-launches such missiles.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

How on Earth is this "breaking news"?

[Forster Keys]

How on Earth is this "breaking news"?

Well missiles break things I suppose?

[Gordano and Lysandus]

To be honest, this sort of attitude is what is holding back the North Korean peace effort. We needn't express paranoia or fear at their every move. Instead, we should have the courage to go forth and actually negotiate - because I'm pretty sure that the North Korean position is weak enough to get a favourable deal.

[Democratic Koyro]

Again?

[The Corparation]

So a few routine tests of short range missiles? We should care why?

Especially when:

Pyongyang routinely test-launches such missiles.

Hence my use of the word Routine. Pretty much every nation on earth that has short range missiles runs test fires on a regular basis.