by Morlago » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:25 pm
by The Emmerian Unions » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:28 pm
Ifreann wrote:"And in world news, the United States has recently elected Bill Gates as God Emperor For All Time. Foreign commentators believe that Gates' personal fortune may have played a role in his victory, but criticism from the United States of Gates(as it is now known) has been sparse and brief."
by Far-Tortuga » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:34 pm
If the delegate dislike the proposing nation, wouldn't that make it unfair for the proposal?
by Morlago » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:50 pm
Far-Tortuga wrote:If a proposal can't convince 52 people to sign off on it and get it through quorum, it is unlikely that it'll be able to convince thousands to pass it into law. The quorum process is largely used to keep poorly written (misspellings, vague, illegal clauses, contradictions, etc.) proposals from going to a vote because to make the entire WA have to vote down bad resolutions would take an inordinate amount of time.If the delegate dislike the proposing nation, wouldn't that make it unfair for the proposal?
This doesn't make much sense to me. Proposals reach quorum by getting delegates to approve them. A delegate who disapproves of the proposed resolution simply doesn't vote, but this does nothing to stop other delegates from voting.
by Far-Tortuga » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:01 am
by Morlago » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:56 am
Far-Tortuga wrote:Personally, I like to think that there are plenty of regional delegates who are capable of putting their personal opinions aside and judging a proposal on its own merits, and not who proposed it. That is why most proposals fail to reach quorum: because the proposal itself is flawed, not the proposer.
by Serbian_Soviet_Union » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:02 am
by Serbian_Soviet_Union » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:09 am
Morlago wrote:I don't see the point of have at least 6% of the WA Delegates to support proposals before letting the world to vote. If the delegate dislike the proposing nation, wouldn't that make it unfair for the proposal? Proposals may not reach quorum just because of this reason. Is it illegal to suggest the abolition of the modern quorum system (not through a proposal, through a forum)?
by Far-Tortuga » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:12 am
Or is it because the delegates themselves are so strict that they expect the impossible?
The resolutions of the past have already changed the world a lot, that is why many proposals fail to reach quorum.
Whenever the delegates meet a proposal that affects a major topic (say:fair trial) then they always think that it has been passed as a resolution, but the truth is that both the Fair Trial Act and the Fair Criminal Trial Act (or something along those lines) have been repealed.
by Flibbleites » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:08 am
by Absolvability » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:12 am
by [violet] » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:17 pm
Morlago wrote:OK, so even if the quorum system is well, can't we decrease the percentage of delegates support to, say 4%?
by Morlago » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:19 am
Far-Tortuga wrote:Most delegates aren't as stupid as you describe them. Even if they do happen to forget a historical resolution, there are those who are happy to remind them. Such as those who wish to pass a resolution that addresses a void left by repealed resolutions.
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