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Gay marriages....now what about siblings parents or animals?

Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:40 pm

I feel like It's going to come up sooner or later.

As far as I can tell, Liberals are pushing for more and more civil liberties (which isn't necessarily a good or bad thing) and eventually, this is going to come up. Years ago, inter racial marriages were unacceptable, and I'm sure gay marriage was just...unthinkable at the point. Now, we have inter racial marriage, and gay marriage is starting to rise in most of the world except for a few nations that are refusing to let go.

But what next? What about a man and his dog? Should they get married? Or what about a man and his son? Or a brother and sister? When is it too much? How far are people going to be allowed? What should be allowed? I'm personally undecided on the issue of what a marriage really means, but what do you guys think about sibling, inter special or other kinds of bizarre civil unions?
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Postby Gandoor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:43 pm

People marrying animals won't be allowed because animals DO NOT HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:43 pm

I believe knowing consenting adults can do what they please.

But the parties need to have the capacity to consent.

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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:43 pm

I see nothing wrong with marriages between relatives or polygamous/polyandrous marriages. Whatever any number of competent adults consent to do with each other is nobody's business but their own.

Inter-special marriage is a completely different thing though.
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:43 pm

Gandoor wrote:People marrying animals won't be allowed because animals DO NOT HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.

What about a man and his son?
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Postby Gandoor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:45 pm

Solmakia wrote:
Gandoor wrote:People marrying animals won't be allowed because animals DO NOT HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.

What about a man and his son?

If they're two consenting adults, they should.

It's nobodies business but their own.
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Postby Slembana » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:46 pm

These should all happen. Everything deserves rights, especially animals.

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Postby Astracarn » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:49 pm

People should be able to marry whomever they wish, as long as all parties agree.

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Postby Meryuma » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:49 pm

Places with legal bestiality, polygamy and incest often tend to be places that also oppose gay marriage.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:50 pm

There is a major problem with the interfamily marriages (especially those between say a mother and son or such with 2 generations in it)

Taxes.

Spouse gets all the deceased's assets tax-free upon death. Talk about a wonderful way of skirting all those shitty inheritance taxes. It's sad it has to be brought up, but people will take advantage of it.

Which just serves to emphasize how fucked up the marriage-tax relation is.

But, other than that I see no issue with two* consenting people getting together. If animals could consent I'd have no issue with that either, but as they are incapable of such consent (or at the very least incapable of communicating any such consent to a human) then that's no bueno.

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Postby Ironrite » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:50 pm

As a large supporter of LGBT rights, even I find this ridiculous. How on earth are we going to know if animals will consent to relationships... Oh yea, they don't have humans' rights...
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:51 pm

Gandoor wrote:People marrying animals won't be allowed because animals DO NOT HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.


More importantly, animals are incapable of unfalsifiable consent.
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Postby Paper Mache » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 pm

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 pm

Slippery slope again?

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Postby Dracoria » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 pm

You know what they say about incest. Keep it in the family.

I'm also somewhat miffed that you left out necrophilia. Ain't no harm if the meat's still warm.
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 pm

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Postby Ironrite » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Gandoor wrote:People marrying animals won't be allowed because animals DO NOT HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.


More importantly, animals are incapable of unfalsifiable consent.


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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:54 pm

Obligatory.

Also, what's the problem with marrying siblings, or parents if the child is old enough?
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Postby Avenio » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:54 pm

Jeez, you seem really up on those dog-human marriages, OP. Is there something you want to tell us?

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Postby Ironrite » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:54 pm

Wait parents??? I guess the Oedipus Complex will be put o the test :twisted:
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Postby Risottia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:54 pm

Solmakia wrote:I feel like It's going to come up sooner or later.

Yes, the fallacious arguments of "some" conservatives are quite predictable. "Ghey=incest=bestiality=atheistm00zlemnazi conspiracy". :palm:

How far are people going to be allowed?

As long as it involves consenting adults who aren't harming directly anyone else, of course. Why do you hate freedom?


Avenio wrote:Jeez, you seem really up on those dog-human marriages, OP. Is there something you want to tell us?

He's hot for a hot dog.

What part of the dog do you think they serve in "hot dog" joints? "Hot dog" is just a Democrats' buzzword for "bestiality sex shop".
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:55 pm

This escalated quickly.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:56 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:Obligatory.

Also, what's the problem with marrying siblings, or parents if the child is old enough?

Tax law getting all confused and fuckered.

That's basically the only objection I can think of that's not "Ewwwwwww". Which, even if it is MY reaction isn't legit gov't policy.
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Postby Euroslavia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:56 pm

Solmakia wrote:I feel like It's going to come up sooner or later.

As far as I can tell, Liberals are pushing for more and more civil liberties (which isn't necessarily a good or bad thing) and eventually, this is going to come up. Years ago, inter racial marriages were unacceptable, and I'm sure gay marriage was just...unthinkable at the point. Now, we have inter racial marriage, and gay marriage is starting to rise in most of the world except for a few nations that are refusing to let go.

But what next? What about a man and his dog? Should they get married? Or what about a man and his son? Or a brother and sister? When is it too much? How far are people going to be allowed? What should be allowed? I'm personally undecided on the issue of what a marriage really means, but what do you guys think about sibling, inter special or other kinds of bizarre civil unions?

If you can show me an instance where there are a rally of dogs and cats holding signs asking for equality concerning marriage, I may feel sympathetic. Til then...
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:57 pm

Right. Well if you can get a non-human animal to meaningfully consent in some demonstrable fashion, be my guest. I'm not sure how you would do that, but fine. Give it a Harkness test, then enjoy.

As for incest. Sure. As long as everyone is of age and consenting, knock yourselves out.

Neither of these are likely to ever be very popular choices. Bestiality for the above reason, and incest because... although hot in concept... most people just are attracted to their close relatives. Some degree of incest aversion seems to be innate in human beings.
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