A Judeo-Christian Nation?

[Xomic]

I wish I could stop misreading it as Judo-Christian nation.

[Greed and Death]

I wish I could stop misreading it as Judo-Christian nation.

I knew someone who practiced Jewjitsu.

[Hydesland]

Our laws aren't from the Judeo-Christian tradition

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

[The Cat-Tribe]

Our laws aren't from the Judeo-Christian tradition

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

[Hydesland]

If anyone here is assuming that calling a nation Judeo-Christian means that everyone there is either Jewish and Christian or that the nation is intolerant of other religions, then you really aren't equipt to give any kind of credible answer to whether the US is or not.

[Greed and Death]

Our laws aren't from the Judeo-Christian tradition

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

I wouldn't say completely courts prior to William the conquer were presided over by Bishops.

Though I read an interesting piece that points to common law in England be largely influenced by Islam.

[The Cat-Tribe]

If anyone here is assuming that calling a nation Judeo-Christian means that everyone there is either Jewish and Christian or that the nation is intolerant of other religions, then you really aren't equipt to give any kind of credible answer to whether the US is or not.

If you want to call the U.S. "Judeo-Christian," the point has already been raised several times that you ought to tell us what the fuck you mean by that.

If you mean the government is anything but secular, you are wrong.

If you mean the nation believes the same religion, you are wrong.

Etc, etc, etc.

[Hydesland]

Our laws aren't from the Judeo-Christian tradition

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

Are you serious? I mean, the value system and culture of Britain was massively and explicitly judeo-Christian, the Church had massive authority in the law for many years, most historians agree that the western value system of today (of which our law is based) is massively based partly on Judeo-Christian ethics and Greco-Roman ethics. I mean I can believe that it is possible someone might say it is completely untrue, but I would at least expect that some acknowledgement that their opinion is.. controversial.

[Hydesland]

If you want to call the U.S. "Judeo-Christian," the point has already been raised several times that you ought to tell us what the fuck you mean by that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

[The Cat-Tribe]

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

I wouldn't say completely courts prior to William the conquer were presided over by Bishops.

Though I read an interesting piece that points to common law in England be largely influenced by Islam.

And you think this first tidbit proves what?

[Hydesland]

Though I read an interesting piece that points to common law in England be largely influenced by Islam.

Which is quite influenced by Judeo-Christian concepts anyway.

[Osgarna]

Or did you mean say nothing about it at all? That hardly seems appropriate considering he needs to repair the damage from all of Bush's talk of "crusades" and things like that.

I meant he needs to say nothing at all...

As in, there is no religion that is the basis of this nation...Its that statement that needs to be emphasized, imo...

Sorry if I confused or offended you, like I said, it was the short answer,

No worries, I took no offense, though I might have if Obama had claimed that the US was a Judeo-Christian nation. Actually, more accurately, I would experience RAGE. I think what he was saying though was that the US has no religion. It's not like he said "there are no Jews or Christians in the US."

[Phenia]

Are you serious? I mean, the value system and culture of Britain was massively and explicitly judeo-Christian, the Church had massive authority in the law for many years, most historians agree that the western value system of today (of which our law is based) is massively based partly on Judeo-Christian ethics and Greco-Roman ethics. I mean I can believe that it is possible someone might say it is completely untrue, but I would at least expect that some acknowledgement that their opinion is.. controversial.

One might as well say we are a Greco-Roman nation, then.

[The Cat-Tribe]

If you want to call the U.S. "Judeo-Christian," the point has already been raised several times that you ought to tell us what the fuck you mean by that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

If you want to use the definition of a highly disputed, not particularly helpful, and not very accurate Wiki page, so be it. But we aren't mind-readers.

[Pevisopolis]

There are Jews in America. There are Christians in America. That doesn't mean America is a "Judeo-Christian" Nation.

[Greed and Death]

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

I wouldn't say completely courts prior to William the conquer were presided over by Bishops.

Though I read an interesting piece that points to common law in England be largely influenced by Islam.

And you think this first tidbit proves what?

that the formation of English common law is not "totally free" of historic influence of Christianity.

[Neo Art]

Are you serious? I mean, the value system and culture of Britain was massively and explicitly judeo-Christian, the Church had massive authority in the law for many years, most historians agree that the western value system of today (of which our law is based) is massively based partly on Judeo-Christian ethics and Greco-Roman ethics. I mean I can believe that it is possible someone might say it is completely untrue, but I would at least expect that some acknowledgement that their opinion is.. controversial.

One might as well say we are a Greco-Roman nation, then.

We're.....not? Fuck all, what am I supposed to do with three dozen togas and a half built vomitorium in the back yard then?

[Ryadn]

When he says we are not a Judeo-Christian nation, that's a fact. If there is even one citizen of the U.S. who is not a Jew or Christian, we are not a Judeo-Christian nation. If he said we are not a Muslim or Hindu nation, would that be a blanket statement, too?

[Hydesland]

If you want to call the U.S. "Judeo-Christian," the point has already been raised several times that you ought to tell us what the fuck you mean by that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

If you want to use the definition of a highly disputed, not particularly helpful, and not very accurate Wiki page, so be it. But we aren't mind-readers.

Just the first few summarising sentences would be enough, reliability is an issue more when you're getting into the serious nuances of the concept. At least Wikipedia indicates what is commonly believed, and thus how the term is commonly used.

[Greed and Death]

Are you serious? I mean, the value system and culture of Britain was massively and explicitly judeo-Christian, the Church had massive authority in the law for many years, most historians agree that the western value system of today (of which our law is based) is massively based partly on Judeo-Christian ethics and Greco-Roman ethics. I mean I can believe that it is possible someone might say it is completely untrue, but I would at least expect that some acknowledgement that their opinion is.. controversial.

One might as well say we are a Greco-Roman nation, then.

We're.....not? Fuck all, what am I supposed to do with three dozen togas and a half built vomitorium in the back yard then?

Well me and my Frat brothers could put them to good use.

[The Cat-Tribe]

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

Are you serious? I mean, the value system and culture of Britain was massively and explicitly judeo-Christian, the Church had massive authority in the law for many years, most historians agree that the western value system of today (of which our law is based) is massively based partly on Judeo-Christian ethics and Greco-Roman ethics. I mean I can believe that it is possible someone might say it is completely untrue, but I would at least expect that some acknowledgement that their opinion is.. controversial.

I'm completely serious.

Your statements are inane on several grounds. There is a rather big difference between "based partly on" and "the primary principles can be traced to." You are playing a rather obvious slight-of-hand with "Judeo-Christian" and Greco-Roman, as well as with "western value system" versus "English common law." But if "most historians" agree that the U.S. is a Judeo-Christian nation, you should have an easy time demonstrating that.

[Maurepas]

that the formation of English common law is not "totally free" of historic influence of Christianity.

Hmmm...I could see the argument being made, as an aside, Id heard somewhere that one of the things they used against "Executive Privilege" was the Magna Carta...

but, even so, the US doesnt recognize an official religion, and saying that we are based on one is unconstitutional...

[The Cat-Tribe]

Except for the minor detail that the second part of your sentence is completely untrue.

Other than that, bravo.

I wouldn't say completely courts prior to William the conquer were presided over by Bishops.

Though I read an interesting piece that points to common law in England be largely influenced by Islam.

And you think this first tidbit proves what?

that the formation of English common law is not "totally free" of historic influence of Christianity.

And when, pray tell, did I or anyone else assert the formation of English common law is "totally free" of the historical influence of Christianity?

If "influenced at somepoint by Christianity or the Christian Church" = "Judeo-Christian nation," then most nations in the world are Judeo-Christian.

[Greed and Death]

that the formation of English common law is not "totally free" of historic influence of Christianity.

Hmmm...I could see the argument being made, as an aside, Id heard somewhere that one of the things they used against "Executive Privilege" was the Magna Carta...

but, even so, the US doesnt recognize an official religion, and saying that we are based on one is unconstitutional...

I find the US to be secular. and any ties to religion today to be minimal to non existent.
When you say something with origins in the middle ages is totally free of religions influence in its formation your incorrect 99% of the time.
just how the times were, the church had its hands in everything.

[Ryadn]

Our laws aren't from the Judeo-Christian tradition

Well, much of it is based on English common law, and many of the primary principles in that can be traced to basic Judeo-Christian ethics.

A lot of it is also based off of the Six Nations government, but most references to the Holy Trinity in the U.S. are probably not referring to beans, corn and squash.