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by Vonnerz » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:48 am
by Wallonochia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:49 am
Nadkor wrote:You know the BBC doesn't just do news, right? It has eight TV (not including numerous local variants) and countless radio stations, most of which have very little to do with the news section.
by Greed and Death » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:53 am
by Vozgia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:00 am
Andaluciae wrote:The Star Spangled Banner is based off of a drinking song. You can take all of your pompous, heavy, Mozart written anthems and stuff them.
The score to mine was created in a bar.
by Vonnerz » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:03 am
Vozgia wrote:To be honest, I had no idea that the BBC wasn't a part of private business. Well, that explains why there so good with the news.
by Vozgia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:07 am
Andaluciae wrote:The Star Spangled Banner is based off of a drinking song. You can take all of your pompous, heavy, Mozart written anthems and stuff them.
The score to mine was created in a bar.
by Vonnerz » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:10 am
Vozgia wrote:I didn't know that either, interesting. All of this is very foreign to me, I am an American after all.
by Dehn » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:39 am
Karsol wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8458271.stmThe BBC must undergo a radical overhaul and Channel 4 should be privatised, a think tank has said in a report on the future of UK broadcasting.
The centre-right Policy Exchange "
by My 3rd Floor Flat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:45 am
Dehn wrote:Karsol wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8458271.stmThe BBC must undergo a radical overhaul and Channel 4 should be privatised, a think tank has said in a report on the future of UK broadcasting.
The centre-right Policy Exchange "
I stopped reading after that, as should everyone.
by Vonnerz » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:52 am
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:Dehn wrote:Karsol wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8458271.stmThe BBC must undergo a radical overhaul and Channel 4 should be privatised, a think tank has said in a report on the future of UK broadcasting.
The centre-right Policy Exchange "
I stopped reading after that, as should everyone.
Exactly. I read that and went "pffft".
by You-Gi-Owe » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:07 am
Karsol wrote:Nadkor wrote:An independent think tank recommends that Channel 4 (i.e. not the BBC) be privatised and that the BBC sell its commercial wing, and that amounts to the BBC being threatened with privatisation?
That's like saying that if I got a group of ten friends together and we agreed that Channel 4 should be privatised the BBC was being threatened.
Lack of funding from the commercial wing could potentially ruin some of my programs.
by Karsol » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:09 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Karsol wrote:Nadkor wrote:An independent think tank recommends that Channel 4 (i.e. not the BBC) be privatised and that the BBC sell its commercial wing, and that amounts to the BBC being threatened with privatisation?
That's like saying that if I got a group of ten friends together and we agreed that Channel 4 should be privatised the BBC was being threatened.
Lack of funding from the commercial wing could potentially ruin some of my programs.
Let's assume that there are people with money that like the BBC as it is and are willing to invest in it. People that agree with the current BBC political stance and programming. If those people buy the BBC and want to make money with it, would you be upset?
by You-Gi-Owe » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:11 am
Karsol wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:Karsol wrote:Nadkor wrote:An independent think tank recommends that Channel 4 (i.e. not the BBC) be privatised and that the BBC sell its commercial wing, and that amounts to the BBC being threatened with privatisation?
That's like saying that if I got a group of ten friends together and we agreed that Channel 4 should be privatised the BBC was being threatened.
Lack of funding from the commercial wing could potentially ruin some of my programs.
Let's assume that there are people with money that like the BBC as it is and are willing to invest in it. People that agree with the current BBC political stance and programming. If those people buy the BBC and want to make money with it, would you be upset?
Yes, The market is fickle and the stance could change to get more viewers.
by Pope Joan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:15 am
Natalyas wrote:The BBC News section is a powerful propaganda tool that the UK government would be foolish to surrender it has a reputation for fairness (even when it isn't) and is well regarded world wide.
As far as the entertainment section is concerned, there are two primary considerations. Did the BBC buy it or did it produce it? The BBC should not be using purchased content such as American sitcoms etc ( I don't know if they do this) . By doing this they effectively engage in unfair competition with other broadcasters. I also don't believe that they should be profiting from advertising in the same way that private broadcasters do.
by Nadkor » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:06 am
Vonnerz wrote:Vozgia wrote:To be honest, I had no idea that the BBC wasn't a part of private business. Well, that explains why there so good with the news.
There are two parts - the BBC proper which is funded by the taxpayer and BBCWorld which is the commercial arm of the BBC.
I am not entirely certain of the relationship between the two in terms of subsidising BBC programming but BBC World does seem to make a tidy profit out of taxpayer funded programming....
by Nadkor » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:09 am
Pope Joan wrote:Natalyas wrote:The BBC News section is a powerful propaganda tool that the UK government would be foolish to surrender it has a reputation for fairness (even when it isn't) and is well regarded world wide.
As far as the entertainment section is concerned, there are two primary considerations. Did the BBC buy it or did it produce it? The BBC should not be using purchased content such as American sitcoms etc ( I don't know if they do this) . By doing this they effectively engage in unfair competition with other broadcasters. I also don't believe that they should be profiting from advertising in the same way that private broadcasters do.
I agree with you that the BBC has increasingly become a simple mouthpiece for prevailing government policy.
by Vonnerz » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:13 am
Nadkor wrote:Vonnerz wrote:Vozgia wrote:To be honest, I had no idea that the BBC wasn't a part of private business. Well, that explains why there so good with the news.
There are two parts - the BBC proper which is funded by the taxpayer and BBCWorld which is the commercial arm of the BBC.
I am not entirely certain of the relationship between the two in terms of subsidising BBC programming but BBC World does seem to make a tidy profit out of taxpayer funded programming....
Essentially the BBC owns BBC Worldwide, and BBC Worldwide's job is to make money for the BBC to make programmes with.
Considering it makes most of its income from selling BBC shows I've never really understood where the problem lies.
by Abdju » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:41 am
Nadkor wrote:Vonnerz wrote:Vozgia wrote:To be honest, I had no idea that the BBC wasn't a part of private business. Well, that explains why there so good with the news.
There are two parts - the BBC proper which is funded by the taxpayer and BBCWorld which is the commercial arm of the BBC.
I am not entirely certain of the relationship between the two in terms of subsidising BBC programming but BBC World does seem to make a tidy profit out of taxpayer funded programming....
Essentially the BBC owns BBC Worldwide, and BBC Worldwide's job is to make money for the BBC to make programmes with.
Considering it makes most of its income from selling BBC shows I've never really understood where the problem lies.
by My 3rd Floor Flat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:49 am
Nadkor wrote:
One of the things you'll notice about the BBC is that it gets accused of bias by everyone.
by Helertia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:54 am
by Inchland » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:54 am
by Karsol » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:55 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Karsol wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:Karsol wrote:Nadkor wrote:An independent think tank recommends that Channel 4 (i.e. not the BBC) be privatised and that the BBC sell its commercial wing, and that amounts to the BBC being threatened with privatisation?
That's like saying that if I got a group of ten friends together and we agreed that Channel 4 should be privatised the BBC was being threatened.
Lack of funding from the commercial wing could potentially ruin some of my programs.
Let's assume that there are people with money that like the BBC as it is and are willing to invest in it. People that agree with the current BBC political stance and programming. If those people buy the BBC and want to make money with it, would you be upset?
Yes, The market is fickle and the stance could change to get more viewers.
So, you think that money (if only to pay the bills) corrupts, even the good of heart?
by Tagmatium » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:56 am
Inchland wrote:I think the BBC is a fine station with very good quality progamming, They really shouldn't be changed
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Imitora » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:59 am
by Inchland » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:59 am
Tagmatium wrote:Inchland wrote:I think the BBC is a fine station with very good quality progamming, They really shouldn't be changed
It's like Murdouche's son having a bitch about it, that it owns too much of the market and it ought to be disbanded, so that Fox can get its fangs more deeply embedded into the British populace.
They only dislike it because it isn't doing what they want.
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