And believes in nation building so strongly that he will advocate for military intervention in any conflict while dodging his own country's draft.
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by Franklin Delano Bluth » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:43 am
by Neo Mitanni » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:54 am
by Neo Art » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:56 am
Neo Mitanni wrote:To address just a few points, I can say with little fear of contradiction that nobody paid, prompted or encouraged me to join
by Conscentia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:57 am
Neo Mitanni wrote:Anyone citing HuffPo for anything immediately sets his credibility circling the bowl.
As someone who has been involved with Tea Party since April 15, 2009, and who was at the 9/12 March with about a million or so of my best friends, I submit that the OP speaks of what he does not know. To address just a few points, I can say with little fear of contradiction that nobody paid, prompted or encouraged me to join, that nobody I know in any Tea Party organization gives a rat's rear about tobacco (I don't even know any smokers who are in Tea Party) other than a general opposition to excessive government regulation of any aspect of citizens' lives, and that for every dollar the dreaded Koch Brothers contribute to conservative causes, an order of magnitude more, at the least, goes to extreme-left causes from a whole rogues' gallery of extreme-left, anti-American individuals, groups and foundations.
The entire so-called "study" is nothing but an exercise is left-wing mendacity. But that's typical with the extreme left, and indicative of how much they fear that patriotic Americans will eventually take effective action to reduce or, hopefully, eliminate the political power of the left once and for all.
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by Choronzon » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:59 am
Neo Mitanni wrote:Anyone citing HuffPo for anything immediately sets his credibility circling the bowl.
As someone who has been involved with Tea Party since April 15, 2009, and who was at the 9/12 March with about a million or so of my best friends, I submit that the OP speaks of what he does not know. To address just a few points, I can say with little fear of contradiction that nobody paid, prompted or encouraged me to join,
that nobody I know in any Tea Party organization gives a rat's rear about tobacco (I don't even know any smokers who are in Tea Party) other than a general opposition to excessive government regulation of any aspect of citizens' lives,
and that for every dollar the dreaded Koch Brothers contribute to conservative causes, an order of magnitude more, at the least, goes to extreme-left causes from a whole rogues' gallery of extreme-left, anti-American individuals, groups and foundations.
The entire so-called "study" is nothing but an exercise is left-wing mendacity.
But that's typical with the extreme left, and indicative of how much they fear that patriotic Americans will eventually take effective action to reduce or, hopefully, eliminate the political power of the left once and for all.
by Choronzon » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:04 pm
Neo Art wrote:Neo Mitanni wrote:To address just a few points, I can say with little fear of contradiction that nobody paid, prompted or encouraged me to join
That's the amazing part. They got you to do it for free, and had you believing it was your idea the whole time.
I mean, as a marketting campaign it's down right brilliant. It's not just getting you to DRINK the kool-aid, it's getting you to hop into your car, drive to the store, buy it, drive back home, mix it, THEN drink it. And having you believe that it was a good idea the whole while.
I wouldn't be able to accurately explain how the entire tea party movement fell for it hook line and sinker. Thank god you showed up to demonstrate it so thoroughly.
by Kanaria » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:05 pm
Vashtanaraada wrote:Corrupted capitalist pigs. right from the start.
by Wikkiwallana » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Spiritwolf wrote:I dont care how the TEA Party got started........ i dont care who started it.......... I really dont even care why it was started........... All I care about is that the TEA Party is taking a stand AGAINST MORE FRIGGIN TAXES!!!!!! We the People can and should SHUT DOWN the current government where it stands and just start over because this government is OUT OF CONTROL when it comes to levying more and more and more friggin taxes on the poor and already OVERTAXED American population. Screw entitlements!!! Screw more taxes!!! It's time we lived in a FREE America!!!
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:28 pm
Neo Mitanni wrote:Anyone citing HuffPo for anything immediately sets his credibility circling the bowl.
As someone who has been involved with Tea Party since April 15, 2009, and who was at the 9/12 March with about a million or so of my best friends, I submit that the OP speaks of what he does not know.
To address just a few points, I can say with little fear of contradiction that nobody paid, prompted or encouraged me to join,
that nobody I know in any Tea Party organization gives a rat's rear about tobacco (I don't even know any smokers who are in Tea Party)
other than a general opposition to excessive government regulation of any aspect of citizens' lives,
and that for every dollar the dreaded Koch Brothers contribute to conservative causes, an order of magnitude more, at the least, goes to extreme-left causes from a whole rogues' gallery of extreme-left, anti-American individuals, groups and foundations.
The entire so-called "study" is nothing but an exercise is left-wing mendacity.
But that's typical with the extreme left,
and indicative of how much they fear that patriotic Americans
will eventually take effective action to reduce or, hopefully, eliminate the political power of the left once and for all.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Neo Art » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:41 pm
by Free South Califas » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:41 pm
Yes.Wikkiwallana wrote:So, what say you NSG? Surprised? Alarmed? Pleased? Indifferent? Hungry?
by Free South Califas » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:00 pm
Lolcite. Also relevance, for a movement that is known to have been organized by a small handful of mostly anarchist activists in New York, like the anthropologist David Graeber and the like. If the Media Committee of Occupy Waukeegan has accepted a donation from Ritz Camera (and I haven't heard of anything like that yet but I'm keeping an open mind), that wouldn't be relevant to the movement as a whole. But then, you'd know that if you had the most basic understanding of the movement's structure, or of US politics.Hippostania wrote:[Edit: Crazy-ass claim.]
You might not like it, but the movement inspired by anthropologists' intensive study of anarchistic decision-making structures throughout history is anything but "stupid". You might sensibly argue that it is misguided (though I'd at least partially disagree), but not that it is "stupid". The Tea Party, on the other hand, derives its analysis entirely from astroturfed propaganda. It is a hollow mimicry at best.Chinese Regions wrote:While I think the OWS are just as stupid as the Tea Party, if not worse
Neo Mitanni wrote: To address just a few points, I can say with little fear of contradiction that nobody paid, prompted or encouraged me to join
, that nobody I know in any Tea Party organization gives a rat's rear about tobacco (I don't even know any smokers who are in Tea Party) other than a general opposition to excessive government regulation of any aspect of citizens' lives
Many citations needed for this bizarre claim, which seems far out of touch with the actual statistics.and that for every dollar the dreaded Koch Brothers contribute to conservative causes, an order of magnitude more, at the least, goes to extreme-left causes from a whole rogues' gallery of extreme-left, anti-American individuals, groups and foundations.
I thought it wasn't OK to excessively regulate any aspect of citizens' lives. Leftist citizens are exempt now, I suppose?The entire so-called "study" is nothing but an exercise is left-wing mendacity. But that's typical with the extreme left, and indicative of how much they fear that patriotic Americans will eventually take effective action to reduce or, hopefully, eliminate the political power of the left once and for all.
by Conscentia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:04 pm
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by Franklin Delano Bluth » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:15 pm
Neo Mitanni wrote:As someone who has been involved with Tea Party since April 15, 2009
by Conscentia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:15 pm
I disagree.
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by Wikkiwallana » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:21 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:24 pm
Spiritwolf wrote:I dont care how the TEA Party got started........ i dont care who started it.......... I really dont even care why it was started........... All I care about is that the TEA Party is taking a stand AGAINST MORE FRIGGIN TAXES!!!!!! We the People can and should SHUT DOWN the current government where it stands and just start over because this government is OUT OF CONTROL when it comes to levying more and more and more friggin taxes on the poor and already OVERTAXED American population. Screw entitlements!!! Screw more taxes!!! It's time we lived in a FREE America!!!
by Condunum » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:25 pm
by Choronzon » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:31 pm
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Spiritwolf wrote:I dont care how the TEA Party got started........ i dont care who started it.......... I really dont even care why it was started........... All I care about is that the TEA Party is taking a stand AGAINST MORE FRIGGIN TAXES!!!!!! We the People can and should SHUT DOWN the current government where it stands and just start over because this government is OUT OF CONTROL when it comes to levying more and more and more friggin taxes on the poor and already OVERTAXED American population. Screw entitlements!!! Screw more taxes!!! It's time we lived in a FREE America!!!
Tea Party Organizer: "They've bled us white, the bastards! They've taken everything we had, not just from us, but from our fathers! And our fathers fathers!"
Fervent Tea Party Activist: "And from our fathers fathers fathers!"
Tea Party Organizer: "Yes."
Fervent Tea Party Activist: "And our fathers fathers fathers fathers!"
Tea Party Organizer: "All right, David, don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?"
Man Holding 'Government out of Medicare' sign: "Sewers?"
Tea Party Organizer: "Oh, yeah. They gave us that, that's true."
Masked Activist: "And sanitation!"
Fervent Tea Party Activist: "Oh, yes, sanitation, Charles...You remember what the country used to be like.
Tea Party Organizer: "All right, I'll grant you that sewers and sanitation are two things the government HAS done..."
Thoughtful activist: "And the roads..."
Tea Party Organizer: (sharply) "Well yes obviously the roads...the roads go without saying. But apart from sewers, sanitation and roads..."
Another Masked Activist: "Cheap gasoline?"
Other Voices: "The internet...GPS...education..."
Tea Party Organizer: "Yes...all right, fair enough..."
Activist near the front: "And the fire department."
Thoughtful activist: "Oh yes! True!"
Smoking activist: "That's true, Charles. That's something we'd miss if the government was gone."
Masked Activist at the Back: "The FDA!"
Fervent Tea Party Activist: "And it's safe to walk the streets at night now."
Smoking activist: "Yes, they certainly know how to keep order..." (general nodding) "...let's face it, they're the only ones who could in a place like this."
(Murmurs of general agreement)
Tea Party Organizer: "All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and cheap gasoline and the internet and GPS and public education and roads and not being burned alive and the FDA and public order... what has the government done for us?"
Thoughtful Activist: "Brought the post!"
Tea Party Organizer: (very angry, he's not having a good meeting at all) "What!? Oh..." (scornfully) "The post, yes... shut up!"
by Wikkiwallana » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:50 pm
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Thoughtful Activist: "Brought the post!"
the post
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by The Spiral Future » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:59 pm
SaintB wrote:I like to believe that civil rights are a revolution. That revolution will never stop until everyone in the world is legally equal.
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