Freiheit Reich wrote:Tagmatium wrote:From that source: "In response to various comments, please note: There are 50 states in the USA. The graph above does not show them all, it shows the lower end. I would have thought this was obvious, but apparently not …"
So the UK's murder rate is higher than the US states at the lower end of the graph.
Not brilliant, but the graph doesn't display the higher rates.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... land-wales
One of the sources I found, which says that, on the whole, crime is down across the UK.
The Libertarian article said that the UK has a lower murder rate 'than the USA as a whole' but how can you explain 4 states that have lower murder rates than the UK? It seems banning guns does not drop the murder rate to 0 like liberals would have us believe.
Eh, they do all have a significantly smaller population than the UK, which isn't really taken account of in those graphs. Each of those states has between 600,000 and 1,300,000 people, compared to the population of 56,000,000 for England and Wales. Which is pretty good, all told. I'm not sure what it would be if there were more firearms, but I don't really want to jump into such groundless statements.
Freiheit Reich wrote:What would you do if you heard a man break your windown in the kitchen? You are in your bedroom? The police live 15 minutes drive from your home (assuming they will rush out). Can you hide for 15 minutes while you wait for them? The man broke in at night knowing somebody was probably home. He might want to rape you. The liberal would say call the police, hide, let the man rape you once he finds you (which is fine because he is a minority and came from a broken home), and then the man runs away out the back door when he hears sirens. Maybe he gets caught but you still live with the memory of rape and liberals cheer because no gun was used.
In a libertarian society this is what would happen. You hear the broken window, you jump out of bed and grab your gun from the closet (or under the bed), you turn on the light and you wait. The intruder comes in. You hold up the gun and he runs away or comes towards you and you fire. He gets hit and runs or he tries again and you kill him. You then call the police. You are not raped.
If he is killed than society lost a dangerous reject. If he runs away than nobody was hurt.
If you like the first scenario than say yes to Obama and his buddies that hate gun rights. Say no to guns. If you like the latter scenario than say yes to the libertarian party and gun rights.
Or, perhaps, he shot you back. Or even first.
AND THEN HE MOLESTED YOUR CORPSE, since you've got a rape thing going on.
I dunno, weird fantasy land posts like that just seem to weaken everything.