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[PASSED] Condemn Hippostania

Postby Demphorian WA Seat » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:35 pm

Delegates and Representatives of the Security Council,

Confirms that [nation=noflag]Hippostania[/nation] is a member of the World Assembly,

Draws the attention to GA RES. #2 ‘Rights and Duties of WA States’, GA RES. #9 ‘Prevention of Torture’, GA RES. #27 ‘Freedom of Assembly’, GA GA RES. #30, ’Charter of Civil Rights’, GA RES. #35, Freedom of Expression, GA RES. #43, WA Labor Relations Act and GA RES. #174, Right to Petition are promoted and largely accepted General Assembly Resolutions that protect numerous categories, including the civilian right to express themselves and the protection of their rights and the right to protect nations from unlawful intervention,

Reminds the World Assembly that all WA member states should follow these Resolutions, for they protect their citizens and way of government,

Deplores the fact that [nation=noflag]Hippostania[/nation] has violated GA RES. #2, Section 3 by refusing to ‘refrain from unrequested intervention in the internal or external economic, political, religious, and social affairs of any other NationState’ by overthrowing a democratically elected government in Longfort and participating in the conquest of Falsea,

Strongly Condemns [nation=short+noflag]Hippostania[/nation] for further violating GA resolutions #27, #30, #43 and #174 by most notably and infamously passing and recently renewing the Subversive and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act, which outlaws leftist political parties, threatens the formation of unions, and infringes the right of citizens to petition, all of which violate the previously stated resolutions,

Further Deplores that the Hippostanian Army violated GA RES. #27 by authorizing troops to violently attack protesters in a foreign country,

Further Deplores the fact that [nation=noflag]Hippostania[/nation] has violated GA RES. #9, Articles 3 – 6, 8, 12 and 13 through the construction of the Anzère Correctional Detention Facility, which is used to round up people who seem ‘hostile to the Hippostanian government and punish them for political misdemeanors, such as promoting communism, socialism, anarchism or promoting “anit-Hippostanian propoganda”’

Therefore, concerning that [nation=short+noflag]Hippostania[/nation] has openly violated numerous resolutions, it should be in the interest of the Security Council to,

1. Condemn [nation=noflag]Hippostania[/nation] for openly violating GA RES. #2, #9, #27, #30, #35, #43 and #174;

Co-Authored by: [nation=short+noflag]Gordano and Lysandus[/nation]


This is a continuation of the former discussion held here: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=216874

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overthrowing a democratically elected government in Longfort and [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=10418125#p10418125]participating in the conquest of Falsea
• infamously passing and recently renewing the Subversive and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act
authorizing troops to violently attack protesters in a foreign country
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:14 pm

"Although we have just adopted a policy of anti-Hippostanianism, we find a condemnation to be going a bit too far. Plus, it's Hippostania, they would probably celebrate a condemnation by the WA. We wish to not give them this favor and the Jahistic Unified Republic has resolved to vote 'Nay'"--

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:27 pm

The Jahistic Unified Republic wrote:"Although we have just adopted a policy of anti-Hippostanianism, we find a condemnation to be going a bit too far. Plus, it's Hippostania, they would probably celebrate a condemnation by the WA. We wish to not give them this favor and the Jahistic Unified Republic has resolved to vote 'Nay'"--

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Might as well agree to this stance unless they do something beyond the pale deserving one almost automatically.

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Postby San Leggera » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:28 pm

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Postby Dogapus » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:39 pm

If this Proposal that is fair and true reachs the qurem then we shall vote For
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Postby East Klent » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:39 pm

Delegate Jarred Michael Stevens sat uncomfortably in his seat as he listened to the Ambassadors discuss and debate the proposal. The previous version had failed to reach quorum and this incarnation's chances were not looking too good either. He had considered approving it then, but by the time he got word from the administration, it was already too late. Now here he was, listening to the argument over the new one with the words of President Cash Willows still echoing through his head, 'You must approve this time, we've got to make a statement.'

Having personally fought Communists on the battlefield more than once, he did empathize with what the Hippostanian government was trying to accomplish with the passing of their confounded bill, but so had the President and yet he had condemned them outright. He did realize that the two of them had been fighting for freedom and liberty, so the idea of any sort of political oppression was alien to them, in fact it was so to any Klentian.

So, rather solemnly, Stevens rose to his feet, "I share the sentiment of Ambassador Anderson and the others who have taken issue with the Republic of Hippostania; my government has placed a full embargo on Hippostania and a personal admonishment of their government by President Cash Willows," he took a moment to gather his thoughts.

"Hippostania is restricting political freedoms with its renewing of the Subversive and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act, and has committed atrocities against leftists in other nations as we have previously seen. Whether the governments of those nations requested or welcomed such intervention doesn't matter and shouldn't matter because the detainment and punishment of people based solely on their political ideology. That's not protecting freedom and democracy, that's the execution of them," he took a deep breath before continuing.

"The nations, and representatives thereof, that support Hippostania in their actions are misguided in their stances. This government has taken things way too far and while previous versions of this proposal left something to be desired I have been advised by President Willows and the Foreign Affairs Department to APPROVE this proposal on behalf of The Heartland, and will vote FOR it should it come to a floor vote. We can only hope that the Hippostanians see the error of their ways and repeal this horrid legislation and put an end to their violent policies towards foreign leftists. Thank you." he sat down with the nod of his head.

After taking a loud, deep sigh, Stevens motioned for a page to come over to him. He wrote a message to his Vice-Delegate, Benjamin Mason, and the Honorary Delegate of the Colony of New Klent Chandler Willows, the younger brother of the President. It explained that he had just approved the proposal on the recommendation of the President, "Approving a proposal without consulting the region, this ought to go down well," he murmured under his breath as he handed it to the page.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:45 am

Again: the State Department for Foreign Policy of the Republic of the Fourteen United Netherlands has decided to, if this matter even gets to the voting stage, vote against this proposal.

A condemnation by the Netherlands government would be harmful to the good relationships between it and the Republic of Hippostania.

We furthermore recognize that the current political party in charge of the befriended republic is carried by the Hippostanian people, and do not want to interfere in their domestic policy because of that.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:01 am

I'm not sure, but for some reason the proposal's been removed. :c
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Postby Demphor » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:27 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:I'm not sure, but for some reason the proposal's been removed. :c


It was removed by the mods for the 'calls upon' clause, so I'll take that out and edit out another thing that didn't make sense and well see it back up there!
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Postby Sardakhar » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:38 am

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AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF SARDAKHAR


We have received news that the World Assembly Security Council proposal titled "Condemn Hippostania" has been removed for the "calls upon" clause by what is apparently called The Most Supreme and Transcendental Authority - whatever it turns out to be - and that the backers of this proposal are planning to resubmit it again. We wish to tell you that, in case this proposal is indeed be resubmitted, we will vote - through our WA-voting satellite state East Sardakhar - AGAINST it.

No offense, but we feel ashamed at the Security Council and the backers of this proposal right now. If anything, Hippostania should have been commended for its numerous acts and achievements to establish peace and justice across this universe, for teaching wild protestors how to behave politely in wider society and not just shout, cry, and wail around the corner, for fighting that manifestation of evil called communism and that ridiculously idea of mob kingdom otherwise known as democracy, and many others.

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Postby SkyDip » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:11 pm

You may want to note this thread before doing too much work for campaigning for this just yet. This proposal may be ruled illegal.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Demphor » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:37 pm

SkyDip wrote:You may want to note this thread before doing too much work for campaigning for this just yet. This proposal may be ruled illegal.


I took a look at that, are they worried that it would lead to spam? Because I tried a NSWiki link for this and it didn't work, so it only leads to forum topics.
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Postby SkyDip » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:41 pm

Demphor wrote:
SkyDip wrote:You may want to note this thread before doing too much work for campaigning for this just yet. This proposal may be ruled illegal.


I took a look at that, are they worried that it would lead to spam? Because I tried a NSWiki link for this and it didn't work, so it only leads to forum topics.

Links in general have never been allowed in proposals as far as I'm aware.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Demphor » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:22 pm

SkyDip wrote:
Demphor wrote:
I took a look at that, are they worried that it would lead to spam? Because I tried a NSWiki link for this and it didn't work, so it only leads to forum topics.

Links in general have never been allowed in proposals as far as I'm aware.


Damn you're right, in that case we're going to have to withdraw it and try it again! agth
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Postby Demphorian WA Seat » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:37 pm

Alright, now after fixing that, we can finally get it through (hopefully)

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Postby Demphor » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:07 pm

AHHHH 15 MORE APPROVALS AND WE'RE UP AND RUNNING
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:42 pm

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The Right Honourable Prime Minister Jack Layston has informed our delegation to advise the Security Council that we fully support this resolution.

The actions of Hippostania are deplorable and should not be allowed to stand.

We dearly hope the ambassadors of the World Assembly see the necessity of this proposal and vote it into law. This will send a strong message to the international community that violation of WA resolutions shall never be overlooked, and will not go unpunished.
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Postby BushSucks-istan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:14 am

Congratulations on reaching quorum! We will make sure our delegate votes for this condemnation!
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Postby Milograd » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:00 pm

I am strongly against this. I like Hippo a lot OOCly but I do not believe that his RP antics are too deplorable or unique ICly. However, despite my opinion about this resolution, I won't be voting on behalf of TSP until more forum votes are lodged.

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Postby Phocidaea » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:07 pm

IC: *pounds fists on table, cheers on everyone voting yes*

OOC: *pounds fists silently on table, silently cheers on everyone voting yes*
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Postby Valdenia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:13 pm

The Grand Duke of Valdenia, Vaclàv I von Babenberg, and his council of ministers, condemn Hippostania's conduct. It is the subject of Greek plays and must be brought to a halt immediately.

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Postby Bodegraven » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:44 pm

His Royal Highness Angus Postma has decided, after asking the people and the chosen representatives of Bodegraven and The Murdering Blobs, to vote FOR this proposal. The SC CAN NOT, SHOULD NOT and WILL NOT tolerate violations of passed GA resolutions by WA members.

We urge all other nations to make the MORAL and CORRECT decision of voting FOR this resolution.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:59 pm

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By the power given to me by the President of Eminral, I, the delegate of the Federation of Eminral Republic to the World Assembly, hereby abstain from this voting, since our nation do not know much about Hippostania.

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Postby Demphor » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:46 pm

Milograd wrote:I am strongly against this. I like Hippo a lot OOCly but I do not believe that his RP antics are too deplorable or unique ICly. However, despite my opinion about this resolution, I won't be voting on behalf of TSP until more forum votes are lodged.

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Actually, he contributed the sources to the condemnation,
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Postby Tylande » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:03 pm

i approve

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