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How much do WE owe?

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Thanks to drunken and cheatin' Uncle Sam, how much do we owe per taxpayer?

$1
24
23%
$10
1
1%
$100
2
2%
$1,000
1
1%
$10,000
8
8%
$100,000
27
26%
$1,000,000
4
4%
$10,000,000
2
2%
$100,000,000
1
1%
$1,000,000,000
35
33%
 
Total votes : 105

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Obamacult
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How much do WE owe?

Postby Obamacult » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:15 pm

I just finished watching a show called American Greed about some old bald dude who liked pole strippers named Starr and how he conned a bunch of old ladies and dumb old artist dudes out of millions in cash and how this guy should burn in hell for this. I mean the poor old ladies who got screwed by this guy actually trusted his BS right up until the end. That got me thinking that this guy was an amateur compared to another crook and ponzie schemer named the United States gubbermint and how much money it owes that is backed by absolutely nuthin' except empty promises from the drunk himself. I mean Uncle Sam is so rotten he embezzled money from me before I was born to pay for junk he promised to give me with money he has already spent! I mean this crazy Uncle can't even pay his bills today and we still got people who trust his dumb crooked arse.

But just curious to see if Generation's X and Y have a clue on how much is owed per taxpayer to crap that Uncle Sam promised but has already spent the money?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:19 pm

Holy crap, there is a debt...and taxes? Why thank you fine poster, you are the very very first person to ever mention the existence of these two things...they most certainly have not been brought up by anyone else ever ever ever, my god...

And with such a complex and complete understanding of the issue, too.

We are richer for it, truly.
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Postby Lodricar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:20 pm

Just check this.

Your name disallows me to take this seriously. Your post only backs that up.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:20 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Holy crap, there is a debt...and taxes? Why thank you fine poster, you are the very very first person to ever mention the existence of these two things...they most certainly have not been brought up by anyone else ever ever ever, my god...

And with such a complex and complete understanding of the issue, too.

We are richer for it, truly.

I'm going to go to the World Assembly and propose a commendation for him, what do you think?
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Postby Person012345 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:22 pm

"I watched a show about a con artist, and figured I could make some awful political analogy thereby proving that government is ebil. People's suffering is a great way to make a completely unrelated political point don't you think?"

That's what I got from your OP.
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Postby Chronic Hypersomnia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:23 pm

I want 1,000,000,000,000,000$.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:25 pm

Exactly £3480344.99.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:26 pm

Chronic Hypersomnia wrote:I want 1,000,000,000,000,000$.

Sure, but where would you put it?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:26 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Holy crap, there is a debt...and taxes? Why thank you fine poster, you are the very very first person to ever mention the existence of these two things...they most certainly have not been brought up by anyone else ever ever ever, my god...

And with such a complex and complete understanding of the issue, too.

We are richer for it, truly.

I'm going to go to the World Assembly and propose a commendation for him, what do you think?

To start, dear Farmhamia, to start...these startling insights, these brilliant revelations...they should not be contained to these pages, they need to be sung on high until all are warned.

Take flight, sir, take flight! Bring your message to the masses...sing it in the comment sections of Yahoo! articles on store openings, YouTube videos about a cat and a dog that are friends, blogs on hamburger joints in the greater Austin area...

Run and tell the world, my friend, tell the world!
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Postby Eastern Plaugelands » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:29 pm

$52,000 per citizen.
$142,550 per tax-paying citizen.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:29 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I'm going to go to the World Assembly and propose a commendation for him, what do you think?

To start, dear Farmhamia, to start...these startling insights, these brilliant revelations...they should not be contained to these pages, they need to be sung on high until all are warned.

Take flight, sir, take flight! Bring your message to the masses...sing it in the comment sections of Yahoo! articles on store openings, YouTube videos about a cat and a dog that are friends, blogs on hamburger joints in the greater Austin area...

Run and tell the world, my friend, tell the world!

There's a Nobel for economics, right?
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:30 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:Exactly £3480344.99.

We have to pay it in pounds????
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Postby Khadgar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:32 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Exactly £3480344.99.

We have to pay it in pounds????


I figured it'd be in Rials. You know, because Obama's a muslim.

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:32 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Exactly £3480344.99.

We have to pay it in pounds????


Yep. It's all going to a secret society dedicated to putting out conspiracy theories on the web based in London.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:33 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Exactly £3480344.99.

We have to pay it in pounds????

To the Chinese, yes.
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Postby Khadgar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:We have to pay it in pounds????

To the Chinese, yes.


Sending it through Hong Kong of course.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:36 pm

Khadgar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:To the Chinese, yes.


Sending it through Hong Kong of course.

Bingo.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:36 pm

Khadgar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:To the Chinese, yes.


Sending it through Hong Kong of course.

This is overly complicated. I'm about to start throwing tea into a large body of water. All the tea I have. And then... and then... er... something will come of that. I'm sure.
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"All Clock Faces Are Wrong." - Gene Ray, Prophet(?) http://www.timecube.com
A simplified maxim on the subject states "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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Postby Person012345 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:37 pm

By the way, the poll will be used to determine the actual US debt per taxpayer. All happenings in international economics thus far are irrelevant. The fate of the US economy rests on an NS poll.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:37 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
Sending it through Hong Kong of course.

This is overly complicated. I'm about to start throwing tea into a large body of water. All the tea I have. And then... and then... er... something will come of that. I'm sure.

No, no, you don't throw your tea in the water, you throw someone else's tea in and then blame it on Native Americans.
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And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
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<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:37 pm

Obamacult wrote:I just finished watching a show called American Greed about some old bald dude who liked pole strippers named Starr and how he conned a bunch of old ladies and dumb old artist dudes out of millions in cash and how this guy should burn in hell for this. I mean the poor old ladies who got screwed by this guy actually trusted his BS right up until the end. That got me thinking that this guy was an amateur compared to another crook and ponzie schemer named the United States gubbermint and how much money it owes that is backed by absolutely nuthin' except empty promises from the drunk himself. I mean Uncle Sam is so rotten he embezzled money from me before I was born to pay for junk he promised to give me with money he has already spent! I mean this crazy Uncle can't even pay his bills today and we still got people who trust his dumb crooked arse.

But just curious to see if Generation's X and Y have a clue on how much is owed per taxpayer to crap that Uncle Sam promised but has already spent the money?


Are you sure you're old enough to pay taxes?
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Postby Khadgar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:37 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
Sending it through Hong Kong of course.

This is overly complicated. I'm about to start throwing tea into a large body of water. All the tea I have. And then... and then... er... something will come of that. I'm sure.


Maybe if you scream Fort Sumter really loud?

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:38 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
Sending it through Hong Kong of course.

This is overly complicated. I'm about to start throwing tea into a large body of water. All the tea I have. And then... and then... er... something will come of that. I'm sure.

The fish will become British.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:This is overly complicated. I'm about to start throwing tea into a large body of water. All the tea I have. And then... and then... er... something will come of that. I'm sure.

No, no, you don't throw your tea in the water, you throw someone else's tea in and then blame it on Native Americans.

>:( Now, you're making my protest overly complicated! And it still doesn't solve the problem of all this cheap, crappy tea that I have laying about from several Christmases ago.
"My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music."
- Vladimir Nabokov US (1899 - 1977)
Also, me.
“Man has such a predilection for systems and abstract deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic”
- Fyodor Dostoyevsky Russian Novelist and Writer, 1821-1881
"All Clock Faces Are Wrong." - Gene Ray, Prophet(?) http://www.timecube.com
A simplified maxim on the subject states "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:45 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:No, no, you don't throw your tea in the water, you throw someone else's tea in and then blame it on Native Americans.

>:( Now, you're making my protest overly complicated! And it still doesn't solve the problem of all this cheap, crappy tea that I have laying about from several Christmases ago.

That's easy. Wrap it up and re-gift it.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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