Illegal SC proposals - post them here

[The Free Wolven People of the World]

[proposal= http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1349378761][/proposal]

Excuse me for my lack of knowledge on how to do this right...

But to be completely honest, I see nothing wrong with the nation that Soviet New Scotland is saying to condemn. It is illegal under rule 4b; that's part of the game and it affects no one other nation.

I do apologize again for my inexperience; I'm not active on here much but found this proposal to be very... improper.
Also one can see by looking at the proposal's author, Soviet New Scotland, one can see they are clearly either brand new to the system or its someone being dumb. Either way, this proposal is, in my case, illegal for an R4 and trying to condemn a nation for playing the game.

[Sedgistan]

Rule 4(b) is about referring to the game as a game (such as saying "Condemns Examplestan for playing NationStates badly"). That's not the case in the proposal you link to - I don't see any illegalities there. Your reasons look like ones to argue against it, not for a mod to remove the proposal.

[The Free Wolven People of the World]

Rule 4(b) is about referring to the game as a game (such as saying "Condemns Examplestan for playing NationStates badly"). That's not the case in the proposal you link to - I don't see any illegalities there. Your reasons look like ones to argue against it, not for a mod to remove the proposal.

Alright, thanks. At the time I posted this I saw no thread on the forum about this one, which lead me to believe there was literally nobody caring for it.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Alright, thanks. At the time I posted this I saw no thread on the forum about this one, which lead me to believe there was literally nobody caring for it.

No one caring about a proposal ≠ being illegal, however.

[The Great Destruction]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: united_federation_of_canada_1349985813

Liberate Gargantuan

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Gargantuan

Proposed by: United Federation of Canada

Description: Description: The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING Gargantuan as a peace-loving region home to many nations over the year since its founding in 2011;

CONCERNED that The Confederacy of Reagan Island has recently taken power and password protected the region;

FURTHER CONCERNED that The Confederacy of Reagan Island has recently began to eject member nations from the region in an attempt to destroy the region;

OBSERVING that The Confederacy of Reagan Island elected on 2011, August 30 barred free entry to the region;

REAFFIRMING the mission statement of the Security Council: "Spreading inter regional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary";

DECLARING that the Security Council must be prepared to use the powers at its disposal to allow free entry into a region currently controlled by a nation with the intent on destroying such region;

HEREBY Liberates Gargantuan.

Approvals: 3 (Kneenypanini, Providence and Port Hope, X-x)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 65 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Question: Does this line (the red one) constitue a rules violation?

[Sedgistan]

The proposal already has a thread - ask that there.

[Moronist Decisions]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: astorfus_1350218416

Condemn Jagermeister

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.





Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Jagermeister


Proposed by: Astorfus




Description: A condemnation for deleting
The Asgard forums and therefore
Causing stress and dismay on all
Asgardians and breaking asgardian
Law

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

Violates Rule 3 (no operative clause)

[Sedgistan]

Plus Rule 4 - "deleting forums" can only be understood as a reference to online forums.

[Ambibia]

Commend Sedgistan


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Sedgistan


Proposed by: Newtered States




Description: Recognizing the contributions made to the Security Council by the nation of Sedgistan,

Hereby Commends Sedgistan.



Approvals: 3

Status: Lacking Support (requires 67 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

This was not in my opinion very illegal, it just was funny to look at

[Sedgistan]

There's a thread to discuss it in here.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

This one is illegal. R4 violation in red.

The Security Council,

Noting the interference that the United Federation of Canada has played in the existence of Gargantuan and all the good work that has been accomplished by the administration of Reagan Island,

Agreeing that going backward, rather than forward, in this uncertain time, would be extremely heinous to Gargantuan,

Recognizing United Federation of Canada has merely one goal in mind: to destroy the peace of Gargantuan,

Realizing that such behavior is demonizing and prevents a region from having healthy interactions with its inhabitants due to the region,

Understanding that his input is not welcome,

And believing that such behavior should not go unpunished,

Hereby condemns the nation of United Federation of Canada.

[Sedgistan]

It already has a thread, so it's best to point that out there.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

It already has a thread, so it's best to point that out there.

I did.

[Frattastan]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: ognjen_ahmadinejad_ii_1351631854

Repeal "Condemn The Black Riders"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation

Category: Repeal
Resolution: SC#91
Proposed by: Ognjen Ahmadinejad II

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #91: Condemn The Black Riders shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Argument: They still terrorize and raid many regions.
We need to stop them.

Condemns for the same set of actions of the Condemnation they have already (duplication). Rule 2(b).
Lacks an operative clause. Rule 3.

[The Great Destruction]

It's a REPEAL, Frattastan. Duplication is impossible since the same resolution can only be repealed once.

[Sedgistan]

The rule 3 violation is obvious; added to that I'd say it's rule 2(d) that this one violates - it doesn't address the contents of the resolution it's repealing - it mentions something from the Condemnation, but fails to actually give an argument against it.

[Frattastan]

Oh. Only read the text of the proposal, didn't notice it was a repeal (as the argument didn't sound like a typical repeal argument).

[The Great Destruction]

I figured as much

[Tanular]

Almost like the person thinks it was a commendation, not a condemnation, judging by that 'argument'.

[Everbeek]

I think he thinks "repeal" is just a misspelling for "repeat".

[Milograd]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: demincia_1351973988

Repeal "Commend Crazy girl"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#49

Proposed by: Demincia

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #49: Commend Crazy girl shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: RECOGNIZING that Condemn Sedgistan was drafted after an agreement between Crazy Girl and Sedgistan, where it was agreed upon that Sedgistan would draft a commendation for Crazy Girl and in turn receive a condemnation;

AWARE that this resolution lacks substance to justify a condemnation, instead condemning for petty things such as the changing of a forum color and 'insults';

DISGUSTED by the use of the Security Council as a tool to play silly games;

HEREBY REPEALS Commend Crazy Girl.

Approvals: 1 (Mad Jack)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 70 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

This proposal's text is copied from Mahaj's repeal of Sedge's condemnation.

[The divided]

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: demincia_1351973988

Repeal "Commend Crazy girl"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation


Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#49

Proposed by: Demincia

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #49: Commend Crazy girl shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: RECOGNIZING that Condemn Sedgistan was drafted after an agreement between Crazy Girl and Sedgistan, where it was agreed upon that Sedgistan would draft a commendation for Crazy Girl and in turn receive a condemnation;

AWARE that this resolution lacks substance to justify a condemnation, instead condemning for petty things such as the changing of a forum color and 'insults';

DISGUSTED by the use of the Security Council as a tool to play silly games;

HEREBY REPEALS Commend Crazy Girl.

Approvals: 1 (Mad Jack)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 70 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

This proposal's text is copied from Mahaj's repeal of Sedge's condemnation.

Just about to post this. Apart from blatant plagiarism, it addresses a resolution that has already been repealed.

[Milograd]

This proposal's text is copied from Mahaj's repeal of Sedge's condemnation.

...it addresses a resolution that has already been repealed.

No it doesn't. Crazy girl's commendation has never been repealed.

[Sedgistan]

Actually, the text addressed my condemnation (as it was entirely copied from the repeal of that) and hence didn't address any of the contents of CG's commendation. Plus, it was obviously plagiarised.

Another mod dealt with it, btw.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

The rule 3 violation is obvious; added to that I'd say it's rule 2(d) that this one violates - it doesn't address the contents of the resolution it's repealing - it mentions something from the Condemnation, but fails to actually give an argument against it.

...also, submitted under the wrong category? The author clearly didn't mean to repeal the condemnation if his "argument" is that they are still a menace.