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Jakker
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Hell Invaded!

Postby Jakker » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:49 pm

With the help of The Black Riders and Unknown, The Black Hawks invaded Hell. With defenders always telling us we should just go to Hell, I figured this was appropriate ;)

All troops involved:

Red Back, TBH
Jakker, TBH
Tramiar, TBH
Noldor, TBH
Spartz, TBH
Mall, TBH
Sev, TBH
Koth, TBH
Halcones, TBR
Twin Equine, TBR
Vazeckta, TBR
A Million Voices, TBR
Ragnarok Arisen, TBR
Scooby, TBR
Kknight, Unknown
Shade

Also thank you to The New Inquisition for their support.

Also before anyone figures it out, yes I do have a phobia against the letter H as evident from the raids of Hippiedom and now Hell. You wonder how I survive being a Hawk. Well, let me tell you, the thought of being associated with anything H related keeps me up at night, but somehow I manage.
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Weed
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Postby Weed » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:53 pm

Nice job, I suppose.
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Mallorea and Riva
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:55 pm

Well done Jakker!
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Postby Severisen » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:31 pm

Indeed. A masterful plan.
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General Halcones
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Postby General Halcones » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:37 pm

Excellent work! Was glad to support the raid, very well planned Jakker.

I suppose you don't feel comfortable with me then, seeing Halcones begins with H too? :P
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:42 pm

Courage, Resolve, Unity, Order, Ruthlessness, Complexo Cruor, Unknown, Incognita

You've made the wrong choice bro.

(more likely you're afraid of the Archempress)


EDIT: AND BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL THICK AND ASKING ME ON MSN, THERE'S NO H IN ANY OF THOSE WORDS ;)
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Postby Todd McCloud » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:02 pm

Hell was *always* a tough target.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:05 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Courage, Resolve, Unity, Order, Ruthlessness, Complexo Cruor, Unknown, Incognita



EDIT: AND BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL THICK AND ASKING ME ON MSN, THERE'S NO H IN ANY OF THOSE WORDS ;)

Oh? :roll:
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Retired Major of The Black Hawks
Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
Former Delegate of The South Pacific, winner of TSP's "Best Dali" Award
Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:08 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Courage, Resolve, Unity, Order, Ruthlessness, Complexo Cruor, Unknown, Incognita



EDIT: AND BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL THICK AND ASKING ME ON MSN, THERE'S NO H IN ANY OF THOSE WORDS ;)

Oh? :roll:

GOD DAMN IT
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:10 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Oh? :roll:

GOD DAMN IT

:hug: It's ok. We'll toss some natives around to make you feel better.
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Retired Major of The Black Hawks
Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
Former Delegate of The South Pacific, winner of TSP's "Best Dali" Award
Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.
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Postby Feuer Ritter » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:15 pm

How's the hell hawks? :)

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Postby Cerebella » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:01 am

Congrats!

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Oh? :roll:

GOD DAMN IT


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Postby Cinistra » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:27 am

OMG! Who's gonna save Hell?
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:55 am

Jakker wrote:Red Back, TBH

AHHHHHH I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW! :lol:
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Postby Cinistra » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:45 am

Crushing Our Enemies wrote:
Jakker wrote:Red Back, TBH

AHHHHHH I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW! :lol:

Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be?
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Mahaj » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:18 am

I guess this is the double edged sword of added variance.

Raids are easier to defend, but liberations are easier to beat.
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Postby Jakker » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:26 am

A liberation attempt was stopped as 13 fendas were sent packing. It's sad when not even Hell wants you ;)
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:34 am

Mahaj wrote:I guess this is the double edged sword of added variance.

Raids are easier to defend, but liberations are easier to beat.

Were you using your bot to time it? Also, to Jakker :bow:
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Retired Major of The Black Hawks
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Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
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Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
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Postby Jakker » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:35 am

Mahaj wrote:I guess this is the double edged sword of added variance.

Raids are easier to defend, but liberations are easier to beat.


It was rough for you Mahaj it seems. First you use our flag to try and trick me and then you were 23 seconds late moving in. Tisk tisk.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:36 am

Jakker wrote:
Mahaj wrote:I guess this is the double edged sword of added variance.

Raids are easier to defend, but liberations are easier to beat.


It was rough for you Mahaj it seems. First you use our flag to try and trick me and then you were 23 seconds late moving in. Tisk tisk.

23 seconds :blink: Anyone from the defender side care to enlighten us?
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Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
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Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.
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Postby A Million Voices » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:52 am

Brilliant stuff guys!
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Postby Tramiar » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:31 am

Jakker wrote:
Mahaj wrote:I guess this is the double edged sword of added variance.

Raids are easier to defend, but liberations are easier to beat.


It was rough for you Mahaj it seems. First you use our flag to try and trick me and then you were 23 seconds late moving in. Tisk tisk.

Wait... is he allowed to use our flag? Is that not impersonation? >.>

Either way, bad Mahaj!
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:45 am

Tramiar wrote:
Jakker wrote:
It was rough for you Mahaj it seems. First you use our flag to try and trick me and then you were 23 seconds late moving in. Tisk tisk.

Wait... is he allowed to use our flag? Is that not impersonation? >.>

Either way, bad Mahaj!

Previous moderator ruling stated that they can impersonate the organization for purposes of infiltration/deception. What he did was sneaky but fine :p
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Retired Major of The Black Hawks
Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
Former Delegate of The South Pacific, winner of TSP's "Best Dali" Award
Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.
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Postby Tramiar » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:55 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Tramiar wrote:Wait... is he allowed to use our flag? Is that not impersonation? >.>

Either way, bad Mahaj!

Previous moderator ruling stated that they can impersonate the organization for purposes of infiltration/deception. What he did was sneaky but fine :p

I may be remembering this wrong, but I believe either one of us, or someone with a flag similar to us had to change their flag because they had one too similar to the other side's flag. >.>


But still, no getting your dirty fenda germs on our flag, Mahaj. It'll take months to get the smell out.
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:00 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Further couple of points of clarification - you're right to assume that this doesn't apply to spying. We're not going to punish players for that, or entertain GHRs alleging that someone is a spy, and therefore guilty of impersonation - because we're not here to root out spies either ;) Additionally, if a couple of groups were vying for control of a region, and a member of one telegrammed a newbie from the other to say "there's been a change of plans - endorse me now", they're not going to get smacked for impersonation. That's just regular update silliness, and unlikely to be actionable.

Is the ruling, following a question of mine.
Still wondering if fendas used their bot.
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Retired Major of The Black Hawks
Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
Former Delegate of The South Pacific, winner of TSP's "Best Dali" Award
Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.
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