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[Kouralia]

I beg to differ.. "blink" was awsome... and a wonderful way to introduce someone to the doctor.

Turn Left was a clip show trying not to be a clip show.

I hated 'Mercy'. when has the doctor ever tried to get someone killed. Christopher Eccleson's Dr was the one born of war and conflict and even he gave the 'bad guys' a second chance.

David Tennant offered his hand to Skarro...

and Mat SMith tries to kill a man trying to redeem his life.... WTF?!?!

No one, apart from the caveman whose head he attempted to bash in because it was in his way, the Ice Warriors he killed with a heat ray, the Ogron who was in his way/attempting to kill him (the first is what happened in the episode, the second what was meant to happen), Goth (in an absolutely brutal fight) and at least one guy who he managed to trick into committing suicide.

A good few silence. Three I think, directly. The dude he duelled at Christmas doesn't really count since it's a duel for honour.

[Johz]

Not the best. I mean, it went downhill when Amy opened her mouth, and that was the little intro thingy so we were in a bad way right at the start. Then the cubes came and we were like "yeah, this is awesome and cool and amazing and awesome" and then we were like "no it isn't". There were just so many little holes. And Amy speaking. And basically various combinations of the two. Not good. Not good at all.

Love and Monsters

I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

What? You've been missing out.

I quite liked the episode. Well, liked is probably a bit strong. It certainly wasn't as bad as everyone made out. It was quite good for just a goofy little episode.

I beg to differ.. "blink" was awsome... and a wonderful way to introduce someone to the doctor.

Turn Left was a clip show trying not to be a clip show.

I hated 'Mercy'. when has the doctor ever tried to get someone killed. Christopher Eccleson's Dr was the one born of war and conflict and even he gave the 'bad guys' a second chance.

David Tennant offered his hand to Skarro...

and Mat SMith tries to kill a man trying to redeem his life.... WTF?!?!

No one, apart from the caveman whose head he attempted to bash in because it was in his way, the Ice Warriors he killed with a heat ray, the Ogron who was in his way/attempting to kill him (the first is what happened in the episode, the second what was meant to happen), Goth (in an absolutely brutal fight) and at least one guy who he managed to trick into committing suicide.

Also relevant: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lzmnPs64 ... zmnPs64K74

Still, it is true that the current Doctor is acting a but out of character. I suspect that there's a reason for that, and that Oswin is somehow involved.

Your video is invalid. One of the clips is of the Doctor shrinkating Kamelion, which was actually an act of mercy. Kamelion was weak-willed, and open to influence by, among others, the Master, and so begged to be killed instead of constantly being a pressure on the Doctor.

[Hatsunia]

I just found out about Circular Gallifreyan, and it is so awesome!(I probably won't be hardcore enough to not use a generator, though)

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[Astrolinium]

Not the best. I mean, it went downhill when Amy opened her mouth, and that was the little intro thingy so we were in a bad way right at the start. Then the cubes came and we were like "yeah, this is awesome and cool and amazing and awesome" and then we were like "no it isn't". There were just so many little holes. And Amy speaking. And basically various combinations of the two. Not good. Not good at all.

I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

What? You've been missing out.

I quite liked the episode. Well, liked is probably a bit strong. It certainly wasn't as bad as everyone made out. It was quite good for just a goofy little episode.

It is literally the only episode of the show I've seen that I actively dislike. Unless there's one that's so bad I've just blocked out the memory of it.

[Wisconsin9]

Not the best. I mean, it went downhill when Amy opened her mouth, and that was the little intro thingy so we were in a bad way right at the start. Then the cubes came and we were like "yeah, this is awesome and cool and amazing and awesome" and then we were like "no it isn't". There were just so many little holes. And Amy speaking. And basically various combinations of the two. Not good. Not good at all.

What? You've been missing out.

I quite liked the episode. Well, liked is probably a bit strong. It certainly wasn't as bad as everyone made out. It was quite good for just a goofy little episode.

It is literally the only episode of the show I've seen that I actively dislike. Unless there's one that's so bad I've just blocked out the memory of it.

Have you seen The Next Doctor?

[Astrolinium]

It is literally the only episode of the show I've seen that I actively dislike. Unless there's one that's so bad I've just blocked out the memory of it.

Have you seen The Next Doctor?

Yes.

That should speak volumes about just how bad I think Love and Monsters was.

[Wisconsin9]

Have you seen The Next Doctor?

Yes.

That should speak volumes about just how bad I think Love and Monsters was.

I do not understand how it's possible for any sane being to not think The Next Doctor was at the very least the worst episode of NuWho, and possibly the worst of all time.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Yes.

That should speak volumes about just how bad I think Love and Monsters was.

I do not understand how it's possible for any sane being to not think The Next Doctor was at the very least the worst episode of NuWho, and possibly the worst of all time.

I beg to differ. It was stupid, yes, but come on, man - Night Terrors.

[Wisconsin9]

I do not understand how it's possible for any sane being to not think The Next Doctor was at the very least the worst episode of NuWho, and possibly the worst of all time.

I beg to differ. It was stupid, yes, but come on, man - Night Terrors.

Night Terrors was bad, yes, but nowhere near as abysmally catastrophic as The Next Doctor.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I beg to differ. It was stupid, yes, but come on, man - Night Terrors.

Night Terrors was bad, yes, but nowhere near as abysmally catastrophic as The Next Doctor.

I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.

But not "the Doctor". He was annoying.

[Aqizithiuda]

No one, apart from the caveman whose head he attempted to bash in because it was in his way, the Ice Warriors he killed with a heat ray, the Ogron who was in his way/attempting to kill him (the first is what happened in the episode, the second what was meant to happen), Goth (in an absolutely brutal fight) and at least one guy who he managed to trick into committing suicide.

Also relevant: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lzmnPs64 ... zmnPs64K74

Still, it is true that the current Doctor is acting a but out of character. I suspect that there's a reason for that, and that Oswin is somehow involved.

Your video is invalid. One of the clips is of the Doctor shrinkating Kamelion, which was actually an act of mercy. Kamelion was weak-willed, and open to influence by, among others, the Master, and so begged to be killed instead of constantly being a pressure on the Doctor.

Whatever you say Sergeant Schultz.

Night Terrors was bad, yes, but nowhere near as abysmally catastrophic as The Next Doctor.

I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.

But not "the Doctor". He was annoying.

Sigged.

[Johz]

I do not understand how it's possible for any sane being to not think The Next Doctor was at the very least the worst episode of NuWho, and possibly the worst of all time.

I beg to differ. It was stupid, yes, but come on, man - Night Terrors.

Night Terrors wasn't necessarily bad. It wasn't good, but at least it wasn't The Next Doctor, nor indeed was it any of the finales.

EDIT: I actually came on here to post this:

[Aqizithiuda]

I beg to differ. It was stupid, yes, but come on, man - Night Terrors.

Night Terrors wasn't necessarily bad. It wasn't good, but at least it wasn't The Next Doctor, nor indeed was it any of the finales.

EDIT: I actually came on here to post this:

That's a good one!

[JuNii]

No one, apart from the caveman whose head he attempted to bash in because it was in his way, the Ice Warriors he killed with a heat ray, the Ogron who was in his way/attempting to kill him (the first is what happened in the episode, the second what was meant to happen), Goth (in an absolutely brutal fight) and at least one guy who he managed to trick into committing suicide.

A good few silence. Three I think, directly. The dude he duelled at Christmas doesn't really count since it's a duel for honour.

again, that dude he duelled with, surrendered. then tried to stab the Doctor in the back. and as he said. "One chance... that's all you get with me."

[Kouralia]

A good few silence. Three I think, directly. The dude he duelled at Christmas doesn't really count since it's a duel for honour.

again, that dude he duelled with, surrendered. then tried to stab the Doctor in the back. and as he said. "One chance... that's all you get with me."

Doctor's Pacifism:

>'It's non-lethal. It doesn't hurt, it doesn't maim, it doesn't kill. That's what I like about it.'

>Kills things with it by shooting them with it

[JuNii]

again, that dude he duelled with, surrendered. then tried to stab the Doctor in the back. and as he said. "One chance... that's all you get with me."

Doctor's Pacifism:

>'It's non-lethal. It doesn't hurt, it doesn't maim, it doesn't kill. That's what I like about it.'

>Kills things with it by shooting them with it

Case in point... the sonic screwdriver... he killed the silence with it in "Day of the Moon:

[Kouralia]

Doctor's Pacifism:

>'It's non-lethal. It doesn't hurt, it doesn't maim, it doesn't kill. That's what I like about it.'

>Kills things with it by shooting them with it

Case in point... the sonic screwdriver... he killed the silence with it in "Day of the Moon:

Indeed. Exactly my reference, It's Doomsday he says that isn't it?

"A So-nic probe!"
"That's Screwdrivah!"

[AETEN II]

I wish they would do a shtick eventually where they encounter a weapon like a lightsaber, and the Doctor just destroys it with his screwdriver after shrugging.

[Nationstatelandsville]

A good few silence. Three I think, directly. The dude he duelled at Christmas doesn't really count since it's a duel for honour.

again, that dude he duelled with, surrendered. then tried to stab the Doctor in the back. and as he said. "One chance... that's all you get with me."

Each and every Doctor has a varying range of pacifism.

For example, the Sixth Doctor was basically an action hero with a silly coat, one-liners and all. The Eleventh has never been as merciful as the Tenth - who himself never really was.

[Kouralia]

I wish they would do a shtick eventually where they encounter a weapon like a lightsaber, and the Doctor just destroys it with his screwdriver after shrugging.

If the Doctor can open a lock, he can render any Earth firearm unusable. Simple.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I wish they would do a shtick eventually where they encounter a weapon like a lightsaber, and the Doctor just destroys it with his screwdriver after shrugging.

If the Doctor can open a lock, he can render any Earth firearm unusable. Simple.

Unless its made of wood.

"It doesn't do wood!" is my favorite line.

[Kouralia]

If the Doctor can open a lock, he can render any Earth firearm unusable. Simple.

Unless its made of wood.

"It doesn't do wood!" is my favorite line.

I did like that. Though hasn't he used it on wood at some point since then, with good effect?

[Nationstatelandsville]

Unless its made of wood.

"It doesn't do wood!" is my favorite line.

I did like that. Though hasn't he used it on wood at some point since then, with good effect?

The most recent time it was mentioned was the Christmas special, when it didn't work.

[Kouralia]

I did like that. Though hasn't he used it on wood at some point since then, with good effect?

The most recent time it was mentioned was the Christmas special, when it didn't work.

Hmm...

I thought I remembered watching this series and noticing him doing something to wood and thinking "Hey, he can't do that."

Then again, I am most liekly miss-remembering.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The most recent time it was mentioned was the Christmas special, when it didn't work.

Hmm...

I thought I remembered watching this series and noticing him doing something to wood and thinking "Hey, he can't do that."

Then again, I am most liekly miss-remembering.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised - these past two have been awful.

Which is a lot less than I would expect from Whithouse and Chibnall.