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Third GCN Global Senate Debate Thread (GCN Members Only)

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:07 pm

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IC: The Global Confederation of Nations is an expanding alliance of alliances on the path towards becoming the next World Assembly, but in order to function properly as an alliance, democratic elections overseen by the GCN Liberty and Democracy Branch need to take place for alliance leadership. The GCN is officially led by the Global Senate, the third chamber necessary to Legislate, Enforce, and Control in the modern world, and the LEC Agenda can only be done by trustworthy, honorable, and tough leaders. Hosted in the Marajarbian Royal Hall in Andreusville, just south of the GCN Offices, the third debate will effectively ensure which of the candidates will become Global Senators for the April Term. The home nations of each candidate go as follows:

-Muqaddasia

-Auxington

-The Territories of Sealand

-Aursi

-Trenaka

-The Marajarbian Federation

The following list of questions will be answered by each present candidate on an international broadcast:

Why are you running for the Global Senate?
What policies do you have in mind for the Global Senate?
What other plans do you have for the future of the GCN?
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Trenaka’s candidate for Global Senator, former ICDN representative John Bauer arrives to the Royal Hall carrying a cup of coffee and a small briefcase with documents in it. He sits down, sips his coffee, and waits for the other candidates.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:56 pm

Julian Andrews walks into the Marajarbian Royal Hall, carrying a briefcase with detailed plans, mostly with detailed anti-KTO plans in mind. Julian was planning on ensuring the GCN’s commitment to more action in the modern world, but would also patiently wait for some of the other candidates to start arriving so that the debate may commence.
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Postby Aursi » Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:52 am

Sherman Holmes comes from the World Parliament with a briefcase. He starts eating traditional Aursian biscuits waiting for everyone to arrive.
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The Muqaddasi delegate arrived, smiling, with a suit and a suitcase typical with all Muqaddasi delegates.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:25 am

With 4 of the candidates arriving, journalists from The Marajarbian Herald, who are moderating the debate, decide to commence the debate. They start with the first question, and that is asking each candidate why they are running for the Global Senate in the first place. They start with the Muqaddasi representative.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:33 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:With 4 of the candidates arriving, journalists from The Marajarbian Herald, who are moderating the debate, decide to commence the debate. They start with the first question, and that is asking each candidate why they are running for the Global Senate in the first place. They start with the Muqaddasi representative.

“We believe that Muqaddasia, with its experience, excellent record and incredible potential, could symbolise the GCN in fighting evil and promoting good. We have been the leaders of the organisation for all the time we have been in it, and whenever we were in it the GCN’s prospects kept looking better and better. An experienced, stable, reasonable Muqaddasia is a very good thing to have in the leadership of an organisation, and their is an experienced, stable, reasonable Muqaddasia right now.”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:53 am

Julian Andrews: "I believe the GCN ought to start reforming itself to become more effective as the next World Assembly, but should also pursue more Anti-KTO policies given the ongoing Cold War. The GCN ought to continue its expansion, as well, but not only through alliance mergers, but through stricter economic legislation as well."
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Postby Aursi » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:06 am

Sherman Holmes: I'll do my best to protect Democracy. This is what my predeseccor did. And I know my future ones will also do so. My Biggest aim is to protect democracy. And I rank everything else on a second level. I'll try to improve the economy of GCN. Thats why i want to become a senator
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Postby Trenaka » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:46 am

Bauer would answer next.

"My main goals are to expand the federal military and peacekeeping forces to effectively counter aggression from the KTO as well as to intervene in civil wars to ensure the continuation of democracy abroad. I also plan to introduce new domestic legislation that would reduce customs hassle for GCN citizens at GCN borders, as well as establishing a federal regulatory body that would work with national regulatory agencies, to ensure consumer protection across the GCN.

I would also introduce an amendment to the Framework that would require military intervention if a GCN member was attacked. This would not apply to offensive wars, only defensive wars."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:46 pm

Julian Andrews: "Now, I believe it's time to discuss policies. My agenda is simple, and by that I mean that I shall continue my predecessor's push to expand the GCN's alliances to at least 15 Alliances, guaranteeing the power necessary to become an official WA successor, while also reforming the GCN so that it may become greater than ever before seen, while also promising more aggressive action against the Kalisight Treaty Organization in the future. I plan on introducing strict economic legislation mostly targeting colonies and nations affiliated with the GCN as a way of getting some income from our endeavors, effectively helping the GCN Economy so that it may grow, while also securing the Mediterranean Theater in the ongoing Cold War for the international community as a whole. It's not GCN that should be in control, and it's not the KTO either. It's the entire international community, and it must start by securing Cypriot-Rhodes and allowing for ties to Muqaddasia to continue growing. I also plan on introducing legislation to further unite the alliances that join the GCN, so that the GCN can effectively manage itself better while continuing to grow."
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Postby Aursi » Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:47 am

Sherman Holmes: My policies are very simple. For International Affairs I want to protect Democracies everywhere. For Economic Policies I'd want to expand private businesses. I want a 0% unemployment rate all around the GCN. I have simple sentence for Diplomacy. "Long Live Democracy, Die Authoritarianism". I think everyone can understand by the words I've said. If any candidate wants to ask me a question, sure
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:20 am

“I believe a no tolerance policy for the KTO has to be installed, the KTO has a head start right now and we need to even things out. The GCN military has to be a separate branch, so it can respond quickly to threats. All branches must have some autonomy. A priority system has to be put into place. Democracy must be promoted. These are my policies.”
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Sherman Holmes: I agree with my Muqaddasi friend. KTO shouldn't be tolerated by GCN.
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Postby The Sealandian State » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:17 am

The Sealandian candidate, Braxton Norris, walks in, sits down and proceeds to say, 'I am running for the Global Senate due to the ongoing cold war between the GCN and the KTO. Some of the KTO's members have constantly launched attacks on the GCN's members, with questionable justifications at best. This has happened because they have believed for too long that they wouldn't face consequences for their actions, even if they ended up losing the war. I aim to definitively end this warmongering mentality by ensuring that an offensive war on one GCN member is considered an attack on the entire GCN and all of its members and act accordingly, mostly as a deterrence, though we must not be afraid to go through with this when the time comes. As well as this, the GCN's member states must be encouraged to intervene in civil wars however they can, even if it is limited to an economic role, as even if some members can't directly participate in such wars, they will need to intervene in some way to protect the GCN's territorial integrity and legitimacy as a WA successor.

However, only preparing for the next military struggle with the KTO is just as dangerous as neglecting the uses of the military in the GCN-KTO cold war. This brings us to my other policies, which involve working to protect both businesses, regardless of size, and the workers that work for them, regardless of the cost, in order to promote worker's rights and economic growth simultaneously, both domestically and internationally. I will also promote not just free trade and military cooperation within the GCN, but also political cooperation to ensure that member states and governments don't try to work against each other without prior diplomacy, and scientific cooperation to help speed up the pursuit and application of scientific knowledge when needed. GCN-allied governments need stability and protection, especially our democratic allies, and that is what I aim to achieve, both on the military, diplomatic, economic and political aspects of the new GCN-KTO Cold War.'

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Postby Trenaka » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:59 pm

Bauer would speak up.

"My policies will include a no-tolerance policy for authoritarianism. With the Accession Criteria Act, currently in the Assembly queue, the GCN will be required to deny the accession of any non-democratic nation to the GCN. My superiors in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are also debating on democratic elections for GCN representatives by the citizens of their respective nations. The two current ideas in that regard are to either have the national legislatures choose representatives, or have direct popular votes for representatives.

I will also protect our consumers by creating a GCN regulatory body that would coordinate regulations with member states and enforce those made by the legislature. They would also enforce things like a potential minimum wage or working hours, with the power to fine businesses for infractions.

I will also, as I stated before, expand the federal military by possibly amending the Armed Forces Act to enlarge the required donation of forces, and I will push for a framework amendment to require collective defense."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:08 pm

The Sealandian State wrote:The Sealandian candidate, Braxton Norris, walks in, sits down and proceeds to say, 'I am running for the Global Senate due to the ongoing cold war between the GCN and the KTO. Some of the KTO's members have constantly launched attacks on the GCN's members, with questionable justifications at best. This has happened because they have believed for too long that they wouldn't face consequences for their actions, even if they ended up losing the war. I aim to definitively end this warmongering mentality by ensuring that an offensive war on one GCN member is considered an attack on the entire GCN and all of its members and act accordingly, mostly as a deterrence, though we must not be afraid to go through with this when the time comes. As well as this, the GCN's member states must be encouraged to intervene in civil wars however they can, even if it is limited to an economic role, as even if some members can't directly participate in such wars, they will need to intervene in some way to protect the GCN's territorial integrity and legitimacy as a WA successor.

However, only preparing for the next military struggle with the KTO is just as dangerous as neglecting the uses of the military in the GCN-KTO cold war. This brings us to my other policies, which involve working to protect both businesses, regardless of size, and the workers that work for them, regardless of the cost, in order to promote worker's rights and economic growth simultaneously, both domestically and internationally. I will also promote not just free trade and military cooperation within the GCN, but also political cooperation to ensure that member states and governments don't try to work against each other without prior diplomacy, and scientific cooperation to help speed up the pursuit and application of scientific knowledge when needed. GCN-allied governments need stability and protection, especially our democratic allies, and that is what I aim to achieve, both on the military, diplomatic, economic and political aspects of the new GCN-KTO Cold War.'


Julian Andrews: “While the ongoing Cold War is definitely a major focus here, what plans do you have that are not precisely tied to the ongoing Cold War? An improvement over democracy is important, as well as limiting some aggressiveness and also improving commerce and ties with other alliances. Outside relationships are somewhat of a priority too, as that is what makes the GCN able to become a legitimate WA successor.”
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The Sealandian State wrote:The Sealandian candidate, Braxton Norris, walks in, sits down and proceeds to say, 'I am running for the Global Senate due to the ongoing cold war between the GCN and the KTO. Some of the KTO's members have constantly launched attacks on the GCN's members, with questionable justifications at best. This has happened because they have believed for too long that they wouldn't face consequences for their actions, even if they ended up losing the war. I aim to definitively end this warmongering mentality by ensuring that an offensive war on one GCN member is considered an attack on the entire GCN and all of its members and act accordingly, mostly as a deterrence, though we must not be afraid to go through with this when the time comes. As well as this, the GCN's member states must be encouraged to intervene in civil wars however they can, even if it is limited to an economic role, as even if some members can't directly participate in such wars, they will need to intervene in some way to protect the GCN's territorial integrity and legitimacy as a WA successor.

However, only preparing for the next military struggle with the KTO is just as dangerous as neglecting the uses of the military in the GCN-KTO cold war. This brings us to my other policies, which involve working to protect both businesses, regardless of size, and the workers that work for them, regardless of the cost, in order to promote worker's rights and economic growth simultaneously, both domestically and internationally. I will also promote not just free trade and military cooperation within the GCN, but also political cooperation to ensure that member states and governments don't try to work against each other without prior diplomacy, and scientific cooperation to help speed up the pursuit and application of scientific knowledge when needed. GCN-allied governments need stability and protection, especially our democratic allies, and that is what I aim to achieve, both on the military, diplomatic, economic and political aspects of the new GCN-KTO Cold War.'


Julian Andrews: “While the ongoing Cold War is definitely a major focus here, what plans do you have that are not precisely tied to the ongoing Cold War? An improvement over democracy is important, as well as limiting some aggressiveness and also improving commerce and ties with other alliances. Outside relationships are somewhat of a priority too, as that is what makes the GCN able to become a legitimate WA successor.”

'To improve the democratic process, there needs to be measures to ensure that corruption and backroom deals do not have any influence on the voting process. It's a small step, but it goes a long way to preserve and later build upon the democratic process that the GCN prides itself on, and allows for further democratic reforms in the GCN, such as Bauer's proposal for elections for GCN representatives.

As for relationships with other alliances, this will involve building ties and trade with alliances that don't end in said alliance getting completely integrated into the GCN, unless the alliance wants to be integrated, in which case, they should and would be allowed to integrate. Having such a policy would not only help in the cold war against the KTO, but it would also help expand the GCN in a different way: by working closely with alliances that don't want integration and simultaneously encouraging its member states to join the GCN separately, it should help the GCN expand even faster, helping establish it as a true WA successor both in its size and its ties to other powerful alliances. It is a mutually beneficial deal for both alliances, as the GCN gets to legitimize itself and expand, and the alliance its working with gets significant aid in establishing itself in global politics, which is especially critical in said alliance's early days. This is how I aim to establish the GCN as a true WA successor.'
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:25 am

Julian Andrews: “I believe it is time to answer the third question. My plans for the GCN’s future are somewhat simple. The GCN needs to expand, preferably in the same method the representative from Sealand believes it should expand. Relationships with other alliances outside of the GCN have to be formed. Furthermore, the KTO has to be dealt with, but while dealing with the KTO, the GCN should restart debate on the Alliance Political Parties Act, and perhaps revise it in the best way it can, while also amending the GCN constitution to allow for the creation of a Global Senate President and World Parliament Chairman. The GCN should also slightly expand the military, with a new chain of command for the military being established once this senatorial election is over.”
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“My plans for the future of the GCN are to strengthen our stance against the KTO by expanding the federal military. As the candidate of Marajarbia said, we must form alliances with other alliances. We also believe our internal processes should be reformed, such as standardizing the way in which department heads are appointed, which will become far more important later. I support the creation of political parties, but I do not support the Alliance Political Parties Act, as it is too strict towards the creation of parties, which should be partially unregulated. By “partially,” I mean there shouldn’t be fascist/Nazist parties and the like, but new parties shouldn’t need the consent of the Senate to form.”
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“Our plans for the future of the GCN is to help keep it alive, united and well, and also having economic and military links with other alliances. The political party suggestion should be debated, but I do not believe it will help much with anything, and some parties should be banned. The GCN has to show interest in defending its members, like Aursi and the VE. Cultural exchanges should happen between all members of the GCN, if they wish. The KTO must be defeated to eradicate fascist and communist threats to the world.”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:25 pm

Trenaka wrote:“My plans for the future of the GCN are to strengthen our stance against the KTO by expanding the federal military. As the candidate of Marajarbia said, we must form alliances with other alliances. We also believe our internal processes should be reformed, such as standardizing the way in which department heads are appointed, which will become far more important later. I support the creation of political parties, but I do not support the Alliance Political Parties Act, as it is too strict towards the creation of parties, which should be partially unregulated. By “partially,” I mean there shouldn’t be fascist/Nazist parties and the like, but new parties shouldn’t need the consent of the Senate to form.”
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:“Our plans for the future of the GCN is to help keep it alive, united and well, and also having economic and military links with other alliances. The political party suggestion should be debated, but I do not believe it will help much with anything, and some parties should be banned. The GCN has to show interest in defending its members, like Aursi and the VE. Cultural exchanges should happen between all members of the GCN, if they wish. The KTO must be defeated to eradicate fascist and communist threats to the world.”


Julian Andrews: “I have a question for the both of you. For the Muqaddasi representative, why is it that you believe that alliance political parties won’t help the improvement of the democratic system? It could be more than useful based on recent worldwide events. For the Trenakan Representative, why be opposed to the idea of allowing the Global Senate to approve the creation of parties? I believe it’s more than worth mentioning here that the parties would only be influential in elections, which usually are for the Global Senate since leadership is important here. So, why be opposed?”
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“I was under the impression that political parties would have more influence than that. My criticism is withdrawn.”
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:07 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Trenaka wrote:“My plans for the future of the GCN are to strengthen our stance against the KTO by expanding the federal military. As the candidate of Marajarbia said, we must form alliances with other alliances. We also believe our internal processes should be reformed, such as standardizing the way in which department heads are appointed, which will become far more important later. I support the creation of political parties, but I do not support the Alliance Political Parties Act, as it is too strict towards the creation of parties, which should be partially unregulated. By “partially,” I mean there shouldn’t be fascist/Nazist parties and the like, but new parties shouldn’t need the consent of the Senate to form.”
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:“Our plans for the future of the GCN is to help keep it alive, united and well, and also having economic and military links with other alliances. The political party suggestion should be debated, but I do not believe it will help much with anything, and some parties should be banned. The GCN has to show interest in defending its members, like Aursi and the VE. Cultural exchanges should happen between all members of the GCN, if they wish. The KTO must be defeated to eradicate fascist and communist threats to the world.”


Julian Andrews: “I have a question for the both of you. For the Muqaddasi representative, why is it that you believe that alliance political parties won’t help the improvement of the democratic system? It could be more than useful based on recent worldwide events. For the Trenakan Representative, why be opposed to the idea of allowing the Global Senate to approve the creation of parties? I believe it’s more than worth mentioning here that the parties would only be influential in elections, which usually are for the Global Senate since leadership is important here. So, why be opposed?”

“To be effective, the parties would have to have a considerable amount of power. Of course, there is a large possibility that the parties would rip the alliance to pieces, so the power was set to only a medium-low amount. This means that the parties would be unable to make decisive changes or decisions, thus reducing them to only supporting or condemning a particular idea without being able to do much about it.”
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:28 pm

''Although nearly all of my plans for the future of the GCN have already been discussed, there are a few thing left to mention. Balancing the joint needs of expanding the GCN military and aiding individual member's militaries and endorsing the Alliance Political Parties act are two of my plans for the future of the GCN. The federal GCN military must be expanded for the security of the GCN as a whole, and the individual member's military's must be supported to deal with any threats. These two needs must be balanced in my view if the GCN is to militarily succeed. Finally, as part of the GCN's democratic reform, the Alliance Political Parties Act will be supported.''

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