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What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:20 am
by The Godly Nations
As a proud member of The World Assembly, we intend on respecting and practicing all its laws and decision, especially concerning human rights, but what exactly consitute a 'human''? For example, does witches or heretics consitute as a humans despite selling their soul to the devil? Or Apostates who deflected from the One True Church of Our Lord and Saviour? If they are not considered humans, is it alright to burn them?

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:24 am
by Seculartopia
The Godly Nations wrote:As a proud member of The World Assembly, we intend on respecting and practicing all its laws and decision, especially concerning human rights, but what exactly consitute a 'human''? For example, does witches or heretics consitute as a humans despite selling their soul to the devil? Or Apostates who deflected from the One True Church of Our Lord and Saviour? If they are not considered humans, is it alright to burn them?


Human Beings are of the species Homo sapiens that live in your country. Their beliefs do not influence if they are human or not.

The World Assembly constitutes "Human" as the species, not of the "soul" or whatever you believe. While that may be true in your nation, ethical treatment of all your populace is a must.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:26 am
by Meekinos
All of the above are considered human, and therefore have the same rights extended to them. To burn them or subject them to any form of cruel and unusual punishment would run contrary to any laws in the WA, especially those who specifically spell out human rights for civilians of each nation within the WA, even if your nation does not consider them human. They would be human in the eyes of the WA.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:32 am
by The Godly Nations
This is completely against the teaching of Our Holy Church Father and our leading theologians, whose wisdom have guided our Commonwealth since its founding.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:32 am
by Tiesabre
Tiesabre is highly offended by your talk of 'humans'. My people are of the Musta race, anthropomorphic ferrets. In fact we practice the Magi arts or what you consider witches and heretics.

As far as the WA is concerned, we are afforded the same rights as humans and the same goes for other nations like mine.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:35 am
by Meekinos
The Godly Nations wrote:This is completely against the teaching of Our Holy Church Father and our leading theologians, whose wisdom have guided our Commonwealth since its founding.

Then perhaps your nation should remain a rogue nation and not join the WA. If it were to join and to continue such barbaric practices, it would no doubt be found to contravening the laws of the WA, which bind all nations that are presently sitting members of this international body. If you want to engage in such a flagrant violation of human rights then joining the WA would be out of the question. Retaining membership will only further alienate your nation, eventually leading to action being taken.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:30 am
by Malikov
The WA considers all sentient beings "human". However, the diction defenition of human is any living being that can succesfully reproduce within the Homo Sepian species.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:35 am
by Seculartopia
Meekinos wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:This is completely against the teaching of Our Holy Church Father and our leading theologians, whose wisdom have guided our Commonwealth since its founding.

Then perhaps your nation should remain a rogue nation and not join the WA. If it were to join and to continue such barbaric practices, it would no doubt be found to contravening the laws of the WA, which bind all nations that are presently sitting members of this international body. If you want to engage in such a flagrant violation of human rights then joining the WA would be out of the question. Retaining membership will only further alienate your nation, eventually leading to action being taken.


Even with no emmbership, you must understand many nations will condemn you for any cruelty that goes towards your citizen's beliefs.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:35 am
by Marlencom
We sometimes burn humans. Usually not for religious reasons as our people are not very religious.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:39 am
by The Requiem of Shadow
The Godly Nations wrote:As a proud member of The World Assembly, we intend on respecting and practicing all its laws and decision, especially concerning human rights, but what exactly consitute a 'human''? For example, does witches or heretics consitute as a humans despite selling their soul to the devil? Or Apostates who deflected from the One True Church of Our Lord and Saviour? If they are not considered humans, is it alright to burn them?


Witches aren't Satanists.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:42 am
by Roumberre
Malikov wrote:The WA considers all sentient beings "human". However, the diction defenition of human is any living being that can succesfully reproduce within the Homo Sepian species.


'Homo sepian'? Would that species, perchance, have Cuttlefish amongst its ancestors?

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:45 am
by Greater Americania
The Godly Nations wrote:As a proud member of The World Assembly, we intend on respecting and practicing all its laws and decision, especially concerning human rights, but what exactly consitute a 'human''? For example, does witches or heretics consitute as a humans despite selling their soul to the devil? Or Apostates who deflected from the One True Church of Our Lord and Saviour? If they are not considered humans, is it alright to burn them?


Whereas there is no scientific proof that humans have 'souls' all that can be said is that a human is a member of the human species.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:45 am
by Alancar
The Godly Nations wrote:If they are not considered humans, is it alright to burn them?

Even if they weren't human it would still not be alright to burn them - even animals have rights, a principle that The Matriarchy of Alancar takes very seriously

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:19 pm
by Esperantujo 2
Esperantujo 2 has three known sapient species: humans (homo sapiens), Charmuloj (Homo Charma) and friendly monkeys (Sapsimius Amicus). A treaty is currently being negotiated between the Esperantujo government and the Queen of the friendly monkeys. Do the three species enjoy equal rights under WA law?

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:26 pm
by Malikov
Roumberre wrote:
Malikov wrote:The WA considers all sentient beings "human". However, the diction defenition of human is any living being that can succesfully reproduce within the Homo Sepian species.


'Homo sepian'? Would that species, perchance, have Cuttlefish amongst its ancestors?


No. Cuttlefish are not able to reproduce with Homo Speian, therefore they are not human, by literal defenition.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:56 pm
by Stragonubius
Malikov wrote:The WA considers all sentient beings "human". However, the dictionary definition of human is any living being that can succesfully reproduce within the Homo Sapian species.


Must we then Test every Species within our realm of knowledge, if only to find Which of this planet are truly "human?"
Atrocities! How Dare You Sir!

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:04 pm
by Alancar
Malikov wrote:
Roumberre wrote:
Malikov wrote:The WA considers all sentient beings "human". However, the diction defenition of human is any living being that can succesfully reproduce within the Homo Sepian species.


'Homo sepian'? Would that species, perchance, have Cuttlefish amongst its ancestors?


No. Cuttlefish are not able to reproduce with Homo Speian, therefore they are not human, by literal defenition.


The question was if cuttlefish was an ancestor, not if it was human

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:22 pm
by Zifnab
The real question here is: What exactly constitute a 'zombie'?

In the Holy Land of Zifnab few individuals have rights and Zombies, provided they remain nude, have more rights than most.

So it is with that fact in mind that I pose this question: Is an unthinking, yet still breathing, wage-slave cashier at a fast food restaurant a zombie? And if so, does he/she have the right to remove his/her uniform regardless of the company policy?

Food for thought.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:33 pm
by Malikov
Zifnab wrote:
The real question here is: What exactly constitute a 'zombie'?


No, the real question is "what exactly constitutes a human".
That is why the thread topic is aptly named: What exactly constitute a 'human'? :palm:

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:10 pm
by Stragonubius
Zifnab wrote:The real question here is: What exactly constitute a 'zombie'?

In the Holy Land of Zifnab few individuals have rights and Zombies, provided they remain nude, have more rights than most.

So it is with that fact in mind that I pose this question: Is an unthinking, yet still breathing, wage-slave cashier at a fast food restaurant a zombie? And if so, does he/she have the right to remove his/her uniform regardless of the company policy?

Food for thought.


Making the choice to Dress in one's uniform in the morning would constitute as a thought.
That person is Not a zombie based on consciouses.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:24 pm
by Scarsaw
Zifnab wrote:The real question here is: What exactly constitute a 'zombie'?

In the Holy Land of Zifnab few individuals have rights and Zombies, provided they remain nude, have more rights than most.

So it is with that fact in mind that I pose this question: Is an unthinking, yet still breathing, wage-slave cashier at a fast food restaurant a zombie? And if so, does he/she have the right to remove his/her uniform regardless of the company policy?

Food for thought.


The Federation of Scarsaw takes offense that you would even consider 'zombies' having rights, regardless of dress. Those infected with the solanum virus, zombies, are lower then slaughtered animals and to even consider them remotely similar to humans is an insult. It is best if the zombie problem is destroyed and if you need help, we can enlighten you on the 'Final Answer' plans.

Heil Scarsaw.
Heil Homo sapiens.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:25 pm
by Bahgum
The Godly Nations wrote: Or Apostates who deflected from the One True Church of Our Lord and Saviour? If they are not considered humans, is it alright to burn them?


Only if it is done with care and attention to the environment. Otherwise you run the risk of breaking some WA environmental legislation & we wouldn't want that. Carbon capture and storage my friend, ideal for this situation.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:13 pm
by Malikov
Scarsaw wrote:The Federation of Scarsaw takes offense that you would even consider 'zombies' having rights, regardless of dress. Those infected with the solanum virus, zombies, are lower then slaughtered animals and to even consider them remotely similar to humans is an insult. It is best if the zombie problem is destroyed and if you need help, we can enlighten you on the 'Final Answer' plans.

Heil Scarsaw.
Heil Homo sapiens.


I think that the citizens of Zinfab are a majority of zombies... and I think that you just inadvertantly insulted, and declared war on them...

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:37 pm
by Scarsaw
Malikov wrote:I think that the citizens of Zinfab are a majority of zombies... and I think that you just inadvertantly insulted, and declared war on them...


We do not declare war on Zinfab, but only the zombie threat no matter where they are.

Re: What exactly constitute a 'human'?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:05 pm
by Doctor Cyclops
Humanity is determined by DNA, as the Great Doctor teaches.

However, if a subgroup is causing problems in your country by refusing to conform to the basic expectations of citizenry, you should dispose of them with no further consideration.